Rant: Grim Babies!

Ask them mate, maybe because a lot of people take things seriously. If LL banned grim babies I wouldn't protest. Things are what they are. But I am still allowed to state my point of view the same as everyone else.

"I wonder, how much support would something similar, based on another group like Blacks, Asians, Jews, or other group last? I'm sure it would get the same approval and encouragement as the grim baby concept. After all, SL is just pretend, so it's harmless, and it certainly doesn't automatically mean that the person doing the killing in SL has that in mind in real life. Right?"


That forum would be 10 times this size.

and Hayden, I am sure a lot of Jews would be offended as well as any other culture or race...I havent seen anything being sold in game that is intentionally racist..Just because the population of moral people(who might still not be fond of the prim baby gen) is a bit lower then the prim baby haters who feel they have to revolt in a sick way because they cant handle chat dosent mean it is right.

Sorry if I came across as attacking you on that one. Wasn't my intent.

Grim Babies: a gross parody of "Prim Babies"

Prim Babies: a 3d object created out of "prims", or meshes, textured and scripted to look like "babies", which exist only in the online game Second Life.

Jews: A certain group of real human beings that exist on planet earth decended from the ancient Hebrews and/or those practicing Judaism. They walk among you. You may, in fact, be one of them.

Concentration Camp: A place where, during the Second World War, Jews and others were tortured and killed. This occured in real life, not long ago.

*sigh*

Can I use that to invoke Robotic Godwin's Law and declare this thing kicked and shaken to death way back at post 21?

And this post stinks like troll...



Ooh ooh! I'll play.

An entire sim? That won't satisfy us. We want the WHOLE GRID! Mwhwhaha!

And while we're at it, let's declare this Slap A Stoopid-Head Day!

Run out and find the first person that is playing house with a prim and give 'em a good looking at. That'll learn'em!

Ok, now I have boxes to caress. Leave me alone!

No, quit spying!

Seriously!

I'M TELLIN!!!!

Do I recommend banning all video games? No just the ones YOU aprove of. In odd world you posess your avitar into other avies (some people didnt like this) ban it.

In Alice you kill humans, ban it.

In City of Heroes you take the smack down on people dealing superdine!!! (thats pretend drugs) Ban it!

In the sims, you can abuse a child. ban it! (you can let all your babies stats go red, untill a social worker comes and takes it, I do belive that Grim Babies has a social worker )


The list goes on and on, I can find a reason why someone somewhere wont like ANY game on the market. Most games are fine as long as I agree with them. I don't like prim babies (who will decide? me? or you?) personaly I don't like people telling me what I can and cannot have in my home (its called freedom), so I would never make that choice.

Did ya know in Denmark they have an approved list of names your allowed to name your REAL babies? Maybe you can move to Denmark and work for the list aproval dept.

Get the fuck outta here!

Yep and sadly Green Bean isnt on the approved list, so what will I do with my little bean?

Picked baby's name? Not so fast, in Denmark

Link to artical

http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/10/08/news/danes.php

"At its heart, the Law on Personal Names is designed to protect Denmark's innocents - the children who are undeservedly, some would say cruelly, burdened by preposterous or silly names. It is the state's view that children should not suffer ridicule and abuse because of their parents' lapses in judgment or their misguided attempts to be hip. Denmark, like much of Scandinavia, prizes sameness, not uniqueness, just as it values usefulness, not frivolousness.

"You shouldn't stand out from anyone else here; you shouldn't think you are better than anyone else," said Lan Tan, a 27-year-old Danish woman of Singaporean and Malaysian descent who is trying to win approval for her daughter's name, Frida Mei Tan-Farndsen. "It's very Scandinavian."

While other Scandinavian countries, and some like France, have similar laws, Denmark's is the strictest. So strict that the Danish Ministry of Justice is proposing to relax the law to reflect today's Denmark, a place where common-law marriage is accepted, immigration is growing and divorce is routine. The measure, which would add names to the official list, is scheduled for debate in Parliament in November.

"The government, from a historical point of view, feels a responsibility towards its weak citizens," said Rasmus Larsen, chief adviser at the Ministry for Ecclesiastical Affairs, discussing the law. "It doesn't want to see people put in a situation where they can't defend themselves. We do the same in traffic; we have people wear seat belts."

People expecting children can choose a pre-approved name from a government list of 7,000 mostly West European and English names - 3,000 for boys, 4,000 for girls. A few ethnic names, like Ali and Hassan, have recently been added.

But those wishing to deviate from the official list must seek permission at their local parish church, where all newborns' names are registered. A request for an unapproved name triggers a review at Copenhagen University's Names Investigation Department and at the Ministry of Ecclesiastical Affairs, which has the ultimate authority. The law applies only if one of the parents is Danish.

Many parents do not realize how difficult it can be to get a name approved by the government. About 1,100 names are reviewed every year, and 15 percent to 20 percent are rejected, mostly for odd spellings.

Compound surnames, like Tan-Farnsden, also pose a problem.

Parents who try to be creative by naming their child Jakobp or Bebop or Ashleiy (three recent applications) are typically stunned when they are rejected. In some cases, a baby may go without an officially approved name for weeks, even months, making for irate, already sleep-deprived, parents.

Greg Nagan, 39, and Trine Kammer, 32, thought it would be cute to name their new daughter Molli Malou. To their surprise, Malou was not a problem, but Molli with an i, which they had thought sounded Danish, had to be reviewed by the government.

The church told Kammer she needed to state in a letter the reason for choosing Molli. She did so, and said she told the clerk, "Here's your stupid letter: The reason for naming her Molli is because we like it."

"Isn't this silly?" Kammer said. "We love to make everything a rule here. They love to bureaucratize."

The century-old law was initially designed to bring order to surnames. Before the law, surnames changed with every generation: Peter Hansen would name his son Hans Petersen. Then Hans Petersen would name his son Peter Hansen. And on it went, wreaking bureaucratic havoc. The law ended that. It also made it difficult for people to change their last names, a move that was designed to appease the noble class, which feared widespread name-poaching by arrivistes, Nielsen said.

Then in the 1960s, a furor erupted over the first name Tessa, which resembled tisse, which means to urinate in Danish. Distressed over the lack of direction in the law, the Danish government expanded the statute to grapple with first names. Now the law is as long as an average size book.

It falls mostly to Nielsen, at Copenhagen University, to apply the law and review new names, on a case-by-case basis. In a nutshell, he said, Danish law stipulates that boys and girls must have different names, first names cannot also be last names, and bizarre names are O.K. as long as they are "common."

And what about Molli Malou?

Approved, by government decree, just recently. If Denmark somehow morphed into the celebrity epicenter of the universe, there would be no place for the baby-naming eccentricities of the world's megastars.

Apple Paltrow Martin would be rejected as a fruit, Jett Travolta as a plane (and misspelled to boot), Brooklyn Beckham as a place, and Rumer Willis, as, well, Danish name investigators would not even know where to begin with that one.

"Cuba is also a problem," said Michael Lerche Nielsen, assistant professor for the Department of Name Research at Copenhagen University. "I have to decide: Is this a typical boy or girl name? And that's the problem with geographical names."

In Denmark, a country that embraces rules with the same gusto that Italy defies them, choosing a first and last name for a child is a serious, multitiered affair, governed by law and subject to the approval of the Ministry of Ecclesiastical Affairs and the Ministry of Family and Consumer Affairs.

At its heart, the Law on Personal Names is designed to protect Denmark's innocents - the children who are undeservedly, some would say cruelly, burdened by preposterous or silly names. It is the state's view that children should not suffer ridicule and abuse because of their parents' lapses in judgment or their misguided attempts to be hip. Denmark, like much of Scandinavia, prizes sameness, not uniqueness, just as it values usefulness, not frivolousness.

Eat him?

Whatta 'bout Bjork, is Bjork on the list? I know it's not Dannish, but if I lived in Denmark, I should be able to name my kid Bjork!

I hear you can ask the courts for an exception?

And I thought Denmark was so liberal. Feh, Feh! on them I say!

Although a part of me agrees with this, because people do name their poor kids horrid things, but just because they can doesn't mean they should. The government, I mean. You really wouldn't want to live under the dictatorship of Io, that's for sure, even though I'd be happy as a clam.

Calm down everyone - the Grim Babies are just the Linden off-spring. Their family tree gone hay wire -- much like everything else.

Sure they do, my grandpas name was Pius (pie us) to me weird, but to my family it means allot. I like that we have the freedom to name our children whatever we choose to, and my point is, who says whats weird?And in America we have the right to rename ourselves as many times as we like, so if your parents are awfull and do name you Green Bean, Richard Ball, or Mike Hunt, your welcome to change them later

Yeah, but not until you're 18 and have been through an entire school career of abuse because your parents gave you a silly name.

IT'S A PRIM, NOT A CHILD.

No real children were hurt in the making and using of Grimbabies. I promise.

Well, I agree with you!

I don't think Pius is that weird, I have Norwegian relatives and their names are far stranger to the American ear. Although I wouldn't make a joke about whether he is really "pious" because my last name is the kind that starts stupid jokes like that.

But some names, that seem like their parents were stoned when they thought them up.... heh.

My RL first name sounds like the name of a sexy french maid to americans. So, of course, I just lived up to my name and became a sex kitten. Everyone wins.

At ::Grim Babies:: we are open to all views. To support those of you that are aginst ::Grim Babies:: we have placed picket signs for you to come and get and use at your discretion.

Grim and Social Misfit

Grim is my new best friend and I want to have his Grim Babies.



Support the sick and twisted and wrong, be the shame of your neighborhood and have your parents disown you: Buy a Grim Baby Today!

Sheer marketing genius. Seriously, Grim, how much did you pay these people for their outrage?

I'm afraid such outrage is not for sale If only you could buy such outrage!

Grim

Not suprisingly, this forum topic got SO far off the original post and I'm sure do to some language and flaming it will be closed soon.

The ORIGINAL post, was just to shine some light on something that a member of SL found offensive. And it went down hill from there. Did it boost sales, I really wouldn't know but by the amount of posts probably. Did some people actually agree, and maybe looked at it the same way? Again most likely. I can't speak for Katie, but my inital post was mearly to agree, and never once did I say, "Please take these items out." Do I think they should be banned from game? No, I really don't. B/c censoring that item, would cause more and more censoring until SL turned into There.com (if you've played it, you know what I mean). I think the reason for the shock, was finding this item in a children's place in SL where people who do Role Play seriously, gathered to see something that in THEIR EYES was shocking, horrid, etc. Am I standing there forcing you to understand our side? No, b/c I doubt anyone every will...a few care, and the rest are just feeding off the drama and flames of this thread. And the creators and "groupies" of Grim Babies, have also falled into this thread, saying nothing but negative things to the original posters just to be mean, and not even showing an inch of compassion to why they think that. Not to mention turning it into a huge ass joke with the picket signs, but I guess Elphba got her wish about pickiters. From what I've seen, Katie had and still has a right to say what she said. This got turned from a neg. Grim baby opinion, into a total flame thread and now into bickering back and forth and down right meaness from half of the posters. I forgot the massive amount of people who reply just to be apart of the drama or to make matters worse by getting nasty.
Either way, for the people who STILL care about the original point of this thread, and want to get together and talk about abuse, SL issues, etc... feel free to contact Katie or myself and we'll just leave the trash in the forums.

-Paris

GENIUS!

/struts w/ sign while buying a babie

If I'm not mistaken, Paris just called us trash.

*cries*

Yeah, we're all mean sick dramamongers who shouldn't be allowed within 100 feet of a real child, but it's A-OK for her to call us trash. Hokay. Nice to know what the rules are.

Paris, here's a hint. If you want to do something about abuse, that's great! Here's what to do. Close SL, turn off the computer, get out of the house and report to the nearest women & children's shelter.

Turn it into a hugeass joke? Guess what? That's what it was meant to be. And you and your friends made it even funnier. So, thanks for that.

LOL!