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Rant: Grim Babies!

Chloe Lowell
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06-20-2006 23:36
"Keep your opinions to yourself"

Well, that about sum's up what I think of this so called creativity. Keep it to yourself. Just what a terrible idea! Some people really need their moral barometer adjusted, and I never expected myself to ever say those words. And dear lord, the comments get even worse when idiots start making comments about real life victims.

Just because you can do something, doesn't always mean you should. Someone "could" create a "parody" of the attempted extinsion of the Jew's. I can just imagine the Patent Pending Jew-killing machine - knife goes in, knife goes out, knife goes in, knife goes out. I bet we can all have a tremendous laugh at that? And so long as its done in the sense of our amusment and fun, and no one is really hurt, it doesn't matter does it?

Seeing as my creative juices are really flowing now. How about an entire sim dedicated to stupid America. Let's face it, theres so much to poke fun at. I think prim twin towers would be a really great seller. Or hmm, suicide bomber deluxe maybe? Just how many idiots can we kill? While the few of you who are left with a sole think through the various conotations of that, I'll say it again, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Just maybe, an entire sim dedicated to showing why Americans deserve to be victims of terrorism isn't such a great idea after all.

So just maybe, have your own baby to abuse and kill isn't as great an idea after all. Adding prim to the start of the name doesn't really help either. Im off to play playground masacare 3, thanks for reading.
Io Zeno
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06-20-2006 23:39
From: Nebulosus Severine


That being said... check THIS out. If you think Grim Babies are offensive, this'll probably make you cry... XD

Clicky!


Now you are just causing trouble with that link and will get this thread locked!

From the "controversy" comments, to save Paris the bother of needing to write it, lol:

From: someone
"i came to this site not knowing what to expect, but i can tell you this, when i got here it was the most sickening, disgusting, morbid thing i think have ever seen, it amazes me on how somebody could do something this horrible!little girls are taught that baby dolls are filled with joy, and you have turned that completely around,and turned them into death filled nightmares!I know that while i slept i would not want a doll that is supposed to look like a baby looking at me with the face of death!what you do is way beyond wrong!it is giving serial killers the invitation that death is alright.....WAY TO GO YOU BASTARDS....just what the world DOESNT need,more crazy unloved FUCKS like you!!!!!!!!!!!!!"



Nebulosus Severine
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06-20-2006 23:40
From: Chloe Lowell
Im off to play playground masacare 3, thanks for reading.


Is that out for PS2 yet? I read a review for it in Playstation magazine and I heard it was awesome!!

XD
Velox Severine
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06-20-2006 23:43
From: Chloe Lowell
"Keep your opinions to yourself"

Well, that about sum's up what I think of this so called creativity. Keep it to yourself. Just what a terrible idea! Some people really need their moral barometer adjusted, and I never expected myself to ever say those words. And dear lord, the comments get even worse when idiots start making comments about real life victims.

Just because you can do something, doesn't always mean you should. Someone "could" create a "parody" of the attempted extinsion of the Jew's. I can just imagine the Patent Pending Jew-killing machine - knife goes in, knife goes out, knife goes in, knife goes out. I bet we can all have a tremendous laugh at that? And so long as its done in the sense of our amusment and fun, and no one is really hurt, it doesn't matter does it?

Seeing as my creative juices are really flowing now. How about an entire sim dedicated to stupid America. Let's face it, theres so much to poke fun at. I think prim twin towers would be a really great seller. Or hmm, suicide bomber deluxe maybe? Just how many idiots can we kill? While the few of you who are left with a sole think through the various conotations of that, I'll say it again, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Just maybe, an entire sim dedicated to showing why Americans deserve to be victims of terrorism isn't such a great idea after all.

So just maybe, have your own baby to abuse and kill isn't as great an idea after all. Adding prim to the start of the name doesn't really help either. Im off to play playground masacare 3, thanks for reading.


I may find those things offensive, but I certainly wouldn't stop you from making them. Doing so is your own creative freedom.
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Social Misfit
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06-21-2006 00:02
For those of you that cannot handle Series 1 of the GrimBabies.. Please do not look for Series 2.. because you wont like them either and most of the people in this forum post really dont want to listen to you complain again when that series is released later on.

And those of you that do enjoy the dolls, you only have 22 more days to buy them before the second series is released and series 1 goes into inventory.
Elphaba Gould
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06-21-2006 00:08
Ok this Playstation game sounds like fun, just because I play a game doesn't mean Im going to step out my front door and try to reinact it. My avie can fly and I haven't tried to jump off my roof yet. But I guess that idea has been debated since Howdy Doody.

I think again you are moving away from the point. What is it that has you so upset? The babies, or the script? If it's the script, have you ever actualy SEEN a Grim Babies text? and if you have what was it that sent you over the edge?

And I suppose that you are an avid abuse advocate? you foster many abused children in your home, send 10% of every peny you have ever made to the state to better place abused children, your involved in legislature to better protect children?

Really I think probably none of use are as involved as we could be. I'm positive that Grim offers a link to an abuse prevention website with EACH babie sold, so isn't he infact increasing abuse awareness?

And if so are you also aginst that? You think if Grim wasen't selling these babies, 100s of people a day would come get a link to that website? So to be honest I think those guys have done more to increase awareness then probably you and for sure me.

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BoBo Boxer
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06-21-2006 00:20
Yeah I find these Prims down right offensive, for that matter I find All prim abuse disturbing. Therefore I propose a active protest of everyone who twists, cuts, hollows, or distorts prims in anyway from their beautiful natural shape. And what about textures did anyone ask the prim if they wanted to have pictures slaped over all of their sides how are they supposed to breath. This type of abuse must not be allowed to continue, please contact your local Linden about this as soon as possible our voices must be heard.

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ear/229/.83/512/?x=300&y=200&title=%3A%3AGrim%20Babies%3A%3A%20Main%20Store - btw I hear these things are on sale at the main store till midnight June 21 if any of you twisted prim haters would like a deal

ps I hear they even do customs if their twisted idea of fun isnt up to par with yours.
Kris Ritter
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06-21-2006 00:26
lmfao.

This thread is comedy gold from the very first post.
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06-21-2006 00:28
hell you make any thread worth readin to me kris :D
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Jon Rolland
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06-21-2006 04:22
From: Chloe Lowell
Seeing as my creative juices are really flowing now. How about an entire sim dedicated to stupid America. Let's face it, theres so much to poke fun at. I think prim twin towers would be a really great seller. Or hmm, suicide bomber deluxe maybe? Just how many idiots can we kill? While the few of you who are left with a sole think through the various conotations of that, I'll say it again, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Just maybe, an entire sim dedicated to showing why Americans deserve to be victims of terrorism isn't such a great idea after all.


I'll respond where you get personal. I'm American. When the tower's were hit I almost called my recruiter to report for duty early. I had a cousin in the Pentagon at the time. I had friends with relatives that died in those towers. My brother did a tour of duty in Iraq. How dare you...? Oh yah and I had an uncle that died in WW2 defending your freedom(you may or may not be American but these servers are on American soil so it was American soldiers defending your rights to post the above on these servers). You want to do the above? Go ahead I won't be there but I won't be on the forums ranting about it or attacking you for it. I believe that freedom is what America is about. Did I go when BG had a POW's event(not memorial)? No Did I make a scene about it? No Just because something isn't in good taste to me doesn't mean others don't have their rights.
Hayden Hedges
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06-21-2006 04:56
From: Social Misfit
For those of you that cannot handle Series 1 of the GrimBabies.. Please do not look for Series 2.. because you wont like them either and most of the people in this forum post really dont want to listen to you complain again when that series is released later on.

And those of you that do enjoy the dolls, you only have 22 more days to buy them before the second series is released and series 1 goes into inventory.



Man, I don't know you. But I find myself liking you more with every post.
Hayden Hedges
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06-21-2006 04:57
From: Chloe Lowell
"Keep your opinions to yourself"


Just because you can do something, doesn't always mean you should. Someone "could" create a "parody" of the attempted extinsion of the Jew's. I can just imagine the Patent Pending Jew-killing machine - knife goes in, knife goes out, knife goes in, knife goes out. I bet we can all have a tremendous laugh at that? And so long as its done in the sense of our amusment and fun, and no one is really hurt, it doesn't matter does it?

Seeing as my creative juices are really flowing now. How about an entire sim dedicated to stupid America. Let's face it, theres so much to poke fun at. I think prim twin towers would be a really great seller. Or hmm, suicide bomber deluxe maybe? Just how many idiots can we kill? While the few of you who are left with a sole think through the various conotations of that, I'll say it again, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Just maybe, an entire sim dedicated to showing why Americans deserve to be victims of terrorism isn't such a great idea after all.

So just maybe, have your own baby to abuse and kill isn't as great an idea after all. Adding prim to the start of the name doesn't really help either. Im off to play playground masacare 3, thanks for reading.



Well, I'm a Jew and i have to say I wouldn't be offended in the least. Hmmmm, "Knife goes in knife goes out" How much will you be charging? Will it be prim heavy?
FireFox Bancroft
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06-21-2006 05:21
From: Katie Truss

I now have a list of places me and my friends will not be buying at.



-K8E-


I now have a list of people who I have instant dislike for because they have had thier sense of humor removed. :p
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06-21-2006 05:48
From: Chloe Lowell
"Keep your opinions to yourself"

Well, that about sum's up what I think of this so called creativity. Keep it to yourself. Just what a terrible idea! Some people really need their moral barometer adjusted, and I never expected myself to ever say those words. And dear lord, the comments get even worse when idiots start making comments about real life victims.

Just because you can do something, doesn't always mean you should. Someone "could" create a "parody" of the attempted extinsion of the Jew's. I can just imagine the Patent Pending Jew-killing machine - knife goes in, knife goes out, knife goes in, knife goes out. I bet we can all have a tremendous laugh at that? And so long as its done in the sense of our amusment and fun, and no one is really hurt, it doesn't matter does it?

Seeing as my creative juices are really flowing now. How about an entire sim dedicated to stupid America. Let's face it, theres so much to poke fun at. I think prim twin towers would be a really great seller. Or hmm, suicide bomber deluxe maybe? Just how many idiots can we kill? While the few of you who are left with a sole think through the various conotations of that, I'll say it again, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. Just maybe, an entire sim dedicated to showing why Americans deserve to be victims of terrorism isn't such a great idea after all.

So just maybe, have your own baby to abuse and kill isn't as great an idea after all. Adding prim to the start of the name doesn't really help either. Im off to play playground masacare 3, thanks for reading.


The parody isn't on real life abuse of babies. Grim babies parody loving *prims* as your child. ok? your comparison doesn't apply. It just shows your mad over something you don't understand.
Iris Ophelia
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06-21-2006 06:07
Grim and prim are two very similar words and I doubt the naming was just a coincidence. Anyway, I saw these, I appreciate the humour in them, but I didn't buy one. They're not really my cup of tea, but I appreciate the work behind them. If you don't like them? Well don't buy one. I don't do drugs, but I don't harp at the people who make prim "smoking accessories". My values aren't the values of everyone else, that doesn't mean theirs are wrong.
Cricket Nelson
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Grim babies
06-21-2006 08:27
I saw em an read the notecards an i think those that want them its their choice, go for it.
But for myself i dont think they belong in kids store. I support Fawn and inner child for her decision on removing them. I am also co-owner of Playland Shoppin Mall an at no time will they be allowed there. My last comment...for the billionth time being a child avie does not mean you ageplay!
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Soleil Mirabeau
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06-21-2006 08:36
From: Velox Severine

P.S. Moo & Soleil: What a beautiful baby! :D


Thank you Velox, he hardly makes a murmur now when moo drinks and yells and when I beat him incessantly. Such a good child our Sloth is.
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06-21-2006 08:45
I'm half tempted to offer them vendor space now, but it wouldn't exactly fit in with Caledon's theme.
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Zoe Llewelyn
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06-21-2006 08:53
From: Phedre Aquitaine
I'm half tempted to offer them vendor space now, but it wouldn't exactly fit in with Caledon's theme.


Why not? I can assure you that the Victorian period had lots of prim abuse going on. It was just done behind closed doors and out of sight of "proper" society. Just dress the prims in a period dress and all is good.
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Vivianne Draper
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06-21-2006 09:03
Can I get an AMEN! This is a fantastic idea.

OMG this thread is teh bomb.

From: Miles Edgeworth
Awesome. I'm going to have to check this out.

(If it pisses off the ageplayers, it's gotta be good.)
Phedre Aquitaine
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06-21-2006 09:03
From: Zoe Llewelyn
Why not? I can assure you that the Victorian period had lots of prim abuse going on. It was just done behind closed doors and out of sight of "proper" society. Just dress the prims in a period dress and all is good.


True enough. I'll have to discuss it with Desmond.
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Chloe Lowell
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06-21-2006 09:09
From: Velox Severine
I may find those things offensive, but I certainly wouldn't stop you from making them. Doing so is your own creative freedom.


Just the response I was looking for. I didn't say he should be stopped, simply, it's not the best thing he could have done. The concept of abusing a child is offensive, so making entertainment out of it in a game isn't exactly a Nobel piece prize winning idea. I'll repeat again, incase you missed it, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

From: Canimal Zephyr
The parody isn't on real life abuse of babies. Grim babies parody loving *prims* as your child. ok? your comparison doesn't apply. It just shows your mad over something you don't understand.


So that makes it ok then? My idea's could be a parody of Sim City for all it matters. The fact is, there’s a very high degree of correlation behind the "creative concept" and real life. It may not have originally started out that way, but you can't expect everyone to take what you do or say how you mean it. If the idea isn't entirely conclusive, it's always open to interpretation. And for the record, I'm not mad, and I do understand - did you stop to think that maybe it was you who didn't understand what I said?

From: Hayden Hedges
Well, I'm a Jew and i have to say I wouldn't be offended in the least. Hmmmm, "Knife goes in knife goes out" How much will you be charging? Will it be prim heavy?


I don’t care if you are offended or not. A lot of people that I have met that are Jews would be. In fact, there was a German historian who got sent to prison for declaring that the Holocaust didn’t happen. He didn’t even make fun of it, but still offended a lot of people with a few words. That was the point of the idea, which sadly, doesn’t apply in your case. Obviously Jon Rolland must disagree with you though.

From: Jon Rolland
I'll respond where you get personal. I'm American. When the tower's were hit I almost called my recruiter to report for duty early. I had a cousin in the Pentagon at the time. I had friends with relatives that died in those towers. My brother did a tour of duty in Iraq. How dare you...? Oh yah and I had an uncle that died in WW2 defending your freedom(you may or may not be American but these servers are on American soil so it was American soldiers defending your rights to post the above on these servers). You want to do the above? Go ahead I won't be there but I won't be on the forums ranting about it or attacking you for it. I believe that freedom is what America is about. Did I go when BG had a POW's event(not memorial)? No Did I make a scene about it? No Just because something isn't in good taste to me doesn't mean others don't have their rights.


Your uncle died because your lame government refused to enforce the treaties placed on Germany after the First World War. That and many other reasons sent America to war, but it certainly wasn’t for the benefit of me and my freedoms, they couldn’t have cared less at the time. And don’t even remotely be as offensive as to suggest I am American!

Although I do feel you deserve extra special attention in my response. You see, my original post was obviously flame bait, blatantly so. The idea was to think up several highly offensive ideas that people may be able to relate to and suggest putting them into a sim or another game. The point being, that it would demonstrate how some people could become offended by these Grim Babies. I would personally hate to see any of my stupid ideas come to light, and I do apologise for any offence caused. I had hoped people would realise why I made the suggestions though.

From: Elphaba Gould
Ok this Playstation game sounds like fun, just because I play a game doesn't mean Im going to step out my front door and try to reinact it. My avie can fly and I haven't tried to jump off my roof yet. But I guess that idea has been debated since Howdy Doody.


I really think you have missed the point, I didn’t quote the rest of your post as it really didn’t address the issue (That and it would have spawned so many more sub discussions that although interesting, are way off topic). This has nothing to do with people being influenced by computer games. I am a huge advocate of computer game freedom and believe there is only a very small link between actions within a game and real life consequences. A few people, have been shown to be affected, but not many. I never indicated in my post this was the point. Research on either side is not conclusive though, no matter what the claims may be.

I’ll say it again, another time, a different way, anyway, to get you to understand. The idea is really offensive. In fact, its disgusting. The kind of people who are amused by such thing’s would almost certainly never express these things away from SL, in their real life, in front of family, co-workers and friends. It’s the kind of thing that would likely lose you your job in my country if you worked with children. So the whole point of my post was not to say, he should be stopped, or there are negative consequences of these Grim babies, simply it’s tasteless and disgusting. It was in response to the many people who surprisingly found nothing wrong with the idea. There is no way I am suggesting this guy should be stopped to save the children, I'm just commenting on the concept of it.
Social Misfit
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06-21-2006 09:47
From: Chloe Lowell
Just the response I was looking for. I didn't say he should be stopped, simply, it's not the best thing he could have done. The concept of abusing a child is offensive, so making entertainment out of it in a game isn't exactly a Nobel piece prize winning idea. I'll repeat again, incase you missed it, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.



I had no idea we were even in the running for a Nobel piece prize, as that was not our purpose, which again I will state is a PARODY of prim babies in Second Life. But to whomever nominated us, thank you.

Second.. I didnt read in the terms of service that I couldnt do something just because I wanted to .. nor that I had to pass any of my builds through you to be approved before sale.


From: Chloe Lowell
I don’t care if you are offended or not.


Well apparantly you do care if people are offended or not.. because you are making it VERY well known that you yourself are offended by the dolls, as this is not your first post on this thread.


From: Chloe Lowell
The idea is really offensive. In fact, its disgusting. The kind of people who are amused by such thing’s would almost certainly never express these things away from SL, in their real life, in front of family, co-workers and friends. It’s the kind of thing that would likely lose you your job in my country if you worked with children. So the whole point of my post was not to say, he should be stopped, or there are negative consequences of these Grim babies, simply it’s tasteless and disgusting. It was in response to the many people who surprisingly found nothing wrong with the idea. There is no way I am suggesting this guy should be stopped to save the children, I'm just commenting on the concept of it.


Comment posted. Heard you loud and clear and now I think you should step away from your computer and find something more productive to do other then try and tell other people how to play or run their own personal game time.
Elphaba Gould
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06-21-2006 09:47
From: Chloe Lowell

I don’t care if you are offended or not. A lot of people that I have met that are Jews would be. In fact, there was a German historian who got sent to prison for declaring that the Holocaust didn’t happen. He didn’t even make fun of it, but still offended a lot of people with a few words. That was the point of the idea, which sadly, doesn’t apply in your case. Obviously Jon Rolland must disagree with you though.



Your uncle died because your lame government refused to enforce the treaties placed on Germany after the First World War. That and many other reasons sent America to war, but it certainly wasn’t for the benefit of me and my freedoms, they couldn’t have cared less at the time. And don’t even remotely be as offensive as to suggest I am American!


I find this post disgusting, an outrage!
Here you seem to be aginst the Holocaust, but also aginst the AMERICANS that put an end to it? I was raised in Suriname, under military rule (Boutersa) and I can tell you, I'm sure glad I'm in America now!! We had curfews, food shortages, and shooting in the streets. Is that a world that would be better for kids? What would happen to your country if left to its own defences? I belive its UNITY that makes us a great nation, and UNITY makes sl a great nation as well. That being said, your separatist theories would take us back to the feudal system.

I thank anyone that has lost a relitive or friend protecting MY freedom, and to some extent your own. I respect and support my government EVEN if I dont agree with it, sometimes we cant always see the bigger picture. I think allot of people are not going to like this post, and even some of the people that were supporting you I think you lost due to it.

::Grim Babies:: *Made in America"
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Jon Rolland
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06-21-2006 09:48
From: Chloe Lowell
Your uncle died because your lame government refused to enforce the treaties placed on Germany after the First World War. That and many other reasons sent America to war, but it certainly wasn’t for the benefit of me and my freedoms, they couldn’t have cared less at the time.


I'm not gonna get into a debate of the reasons behind the the war. It doesn't change the fact he died fighting for his country and the freedom it represents. The reasons and validity behind any war can be debated but it doesn't change motive or sacrifice of the soldiers fighting it.

From: Chloe Lowell
And don’t even remotely be as offensive as to suggest I am American!


I did cover either possibility but fortunately I have the right to be that offensive, Yankee ;-)

From: Chloe Lowell
Although I do feel you deserve extra special attention in my response. You see, my original post was obviously flame bait, blatantly so. The idea was to think up several highly offensive ideas that people may be able to relate to and suggest putting them into a sim or another game. The point being, that it would demonstrate how some people could become offended by these Grim Babies. I would personally hate to see any of my stupid ideas come to light, and I do apologise for any offence caused. I had hoped people would realise why I made the suggestions though.


Ah flamebait, then flip off troll :-) But that's not the response you wanted was it? The suggestion must be treated as serious to recieve a serious response.
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