Rant: Grim Babies!

Kids starve. Kids are raped. Kids are killed in a variety of horrific ways. I find that sick.

If you think this is sick, you really need a priorities adjustment.

Except, uhm, I did... and I'm still laughing.

Phee
Bad person

I do understand, I have been there also not child abuse, but some form of abuse when I was a teen. It affected me, it still does, but I also realise that people in SL are all different, they are all into different things etc and if they bring up something that brings back memories, or they make something that does, not to take it personally, or too seriously. If I lived my SL life like that, man... I wouldn't ever log on.

I do see your point, really I do and I see why you would think it is wrong, and I am sorry that this is upsetting to you, but personally, its each to their own, you can't help what some people enjoy, even if it disturbs you.

Oh... for the record, I find the prim baby thing as weird as feet on fish. I'm still traumatized by walking up on a 'pregnant' AV whose 'fetus' was 'talking' to her. Who is gonna pay my therapy bill???

I'm guessing from y our name that you've found some offbeat ways of dealing too.

Sweet. Join the club. I'm sincerely glad you can laugh. I'm not saying there aren't funny aspects, I'm saying geez people, let the woman feel the way she feels.

I know this is the forums and sympathy is uncool, but *shrug*

I'm a libertarian if I thought of anything I'd have to question long and hard why i thought it justified being unacceptable. Does the OP and Paris have the right to be sickened? yes But that doesn't make Grim Baby's or your personal displeasure unacceptable or sick for other people.



Everyone has their histories everyone has to get past them. Life won't pander to you deal with your issues or go somewhere you aren't exposed to them. Don't expect other people to change so you don't have to deal with your sensitivities.

Couple thoughts....

1. The store is amazingly well done. A very cool build in and of itself, the creators put a lot of time and care into it.
   
2. Willow's right, these are straight up garbage pail kid style. And THOSE got pretty evil. (I had a ton of em)
   
3. Among other things, these babies do the stuff the regular prim babies do. In fact that's what most of the options are for.
   
4. The funniest thing about these is when someone else clicks the baby, they can optionally slap the mother/father holding it.
   
5. As far as messed-up shit in SL goes, I've seen a LOT worse. These are tame by like 1980's standards.
   

Edited to add unacceptable to you.... that's what I meant.

No disagreement here. I'm just responding to the several people telling her it's not OK for her to feel this way cause it's not 'real'. If she hated bunnies in SL, she can still feel that way. If enough people agree that bunnies=bad, then she can try to run them out of SL



Take it in context. I suggested that people might try to have a little bit of compassion for someone's response instead of the usual knee-jerk mockery beat-down.

Everyone has to get past them..so funny. In words that almost seem's do able. You have NO RIGHT to tell anyone or suggest that they just "get past" something that can single handedly haunt someone, their dreams, their thoughts, everything. Did we ask for a shoulder to cry on or sympathy in this post? No..just simply stated our extreme dislike for something that we saw at a store we frequent. A store dedicated to children/adults/prim babies RP in SL. I don't see anything wrong with having an opinion. And I have said already, I don't expect them to leave SL or ask people to leave who have them on around me. That's just plain stupid. But having an opinion the last time I checked was fine. And I've never asked anyone to change, so maybe you should re-read before making such a statement about dealing.

No this is not a double post. Addressing this seperately. If the 'you' is generic and you mean anyone, then I agree. If that you is directed at me because you think I feel that way, then you're wrong.

I treat my personal issues as personal and don't expect the world to organize around them. However, I am not so callous that I can't feel compassion for people's troubles. There's plenty of room in between callous and pandering. Being considerate doesn't make you a wuss.

Yes the you was generic refering back to the "Everyone".

I love my Grim baby.

He already has a special cage. What a special boy.



Doesn't anyone remember Garbage Pail Kids? Man, I loved those cards.

Contradict yourself much? And no you don't HAVE to get past your past you could let your past continue to plague your present or you could get past it and move on with your life. Your choice.

Edit: ps I notice you include the word "just" I never suggested it was easy to "get past" something or trivialized the process in any way.



No, you didn't you attacked them as "sick". And that is my point of contention with you.

B/c I do think they are sick to think up something like that, again..it's my opinion. So deal with it. And you are taking pieces of things I've said, instead or re-reading my inital post on this topic. I think they are wrong and I think it's sick for someone to have thought of that as funny. If someone doesn't like my opinion, that's fine. B/c it's just that, my opinion. You did suggest in your post that people need to get past their past issues and that we shouldn't expect anyone to cater to our issues, such as having past isuses with abuse. Your posts are more subjective then mine. I didn't post, "I hate so and so b/c they created a baby that gets killed." I posted that I did not like the idea of the babies and thought it was sick and wrong.

Then be prepared to "deal with" the opinions of others.

Soleil and I are very happy with our grim son, Sloth.

THAT is a HUGE baby.

You know, I'm annoyed enough at the whole virtual preggers thing to get and (ab)use one of these with great glee.

I think I now have more "tummy talkers" muted than I do Xcite attachments. Ugh, mommy-spam! x_x

Sometimes pots need stirred to get the muck off the bottom.

Everyone who takes this seriously really need to stir their pots. Stretch Armstrong was a doll that resembled a real person that real people purchased from a real company that was REALLY meant to be abused. Oh noes!11

Fact is: There is a distict difference. These are dolls. They are dolls just like your avatar is a "doll" of sorts. You are free to do what you want with your doll and if no one else wants to play with you they can take their doll and go home. Same thing here. You don't have to abuse these "babies." You CHOOSE to. It goes to show you what little tolerance REALLY exists in a world that's supposedly so open-minded.

Its fine that you won't shop there. You don't have to. You've brought so much attention to it that no matter how many people you have on your friends list they will still make a killing (pun semi-inteded) from your free advertisement. Even negative publicity is still publicity.

Months ago I had an idea to make a "Crude Pregnancy Attachment". The pregnant av thing was just hitting big and I found it comical. I thought "What about the other end of the spectrum? What about the comedic end?" So I contacted one of the high-end prim baby dudes. My SL/RL partner and I talked to the guy and placed an order of sorts.

We decided we wanted a purple mech baby. The baby had to be purple with a cyborg eye and a mechanical arm. You get the idea. He was all for making it! For a price, of course. We didn't go through with it - but even this serious maker/doctor whatever was even open minded enough to recognize individuality and held enough tolerance to go against everything he was currently doing for a quick buck. Yay for money! Anwyay ...

He never made our purple mech baby - so I never got to have my immaculate conception. I started brainstorming for a pregnancy attachment that talked and said things that would most likely offend every person against the Grim Babies .. so I'll just refrain. You're welcome.

Its fine that you're against unrealistic deformed babies being abused. Its fine that you find a common link between virtual reality and actual reality. Its even fine that you give away free advertising. It isn't fine that you can't seem to accept the fact that this is nothing new. WWF wrestling pillows/dolls, Stretch Armstrong, Garbage Pail Kids -- they were around long before Grim Babies. This is just a mutation and evolution of comic book humor.

You should take a sigh of relief that they even put THAT much of a disclaimer in their product. My common sense gets the best of me and I'd think that such a note wouldn't be needed -- but hey if people commit suicide from listening to Pink Floyd anything is possible I guess.

And for the record - these Grim Babies are VERY well built. I admire 'em. I'd buy a few just to sit on a shelf. A collector's items of sorts. BTW - this only fuels my fire to finish making the pregnancy attachment I started. When you start hearing people's tummies say So-And-So Prego Tummy says: You are depressed because you were only paid 100$ for going on Jerry Springer and telling them about your baby daddy. Go to the strip club to cheer yourself up!

That's just FUNNY!

Katie, loosen your sphincter. I think letting your friends kick your prim baby is A-Okay. If you have a problem with prim abuse seek help. Now stop being emo. That's a direct request.

Hi, I’m Grim, incase you don’t know me, I make Grim babies with my brother Social Misfit, man that just sounds wrong!
We would LOVE to thank you for the overwhelming response to our babies. The only way we can think to thank you properly, is to put Grim Babies on sale for 1000 L for 24 hrs, that’s 500l off!! Only available at our main location :Grim Babies:: but can also always be found at Celestial City, Beckenbauer Productions, Nomine, and Industry.

Also please join our ::Grim Parents:: group, for special offers, secret sales, and GROUP member ONLY babies!!

Grim Misfit

That is a tempting offer, I must say. I checked out your store and I think they are great. High quality work.

Wow. Just.. Wow.


Amazing that people can still find something to be offended over, and then go tell all their friends so that they can get offended over it too.

Usually, when something offends me, i try to just ignore it, leave it along, not think about it.. but this person goes and starts a thread!

Strange times.



Life is too short to be offended
- Anonymous

let me address two things that bug me from this post...first...it is up to the individual to respond in a positive way to life experiences...for example you can sit and play the victim your whole life...which hey, is your choice more power to you, or you can go and be a positive role model for other abused kids, become a big sister, or do other volunteer work and make a difference in someone else's life

second...did you ask for a shoulder to cry on or sympathy? most definitely YES! what is the point in bringing up abuse if it werent to garner sympathy for yourself? im sure you are going to make your own snap judgements about me because of this post but if you feel you must bring up abuse issues talk to a close friend about it please dont use the forums as a therapy session because some of us are trying to move on with our own issues and havin this brought up every month is startin to get really old

As a connoisseur of the sick and demented, I must congratuate you on your wonderful product and the many sadistic laughs it brings to my horrible, shrunken heart.

On the other hand, as one working in education I must say...my amusement doesn't change.

For those of you who just can't seem to get over the fact that Grim babies are a parody...just know that we who appreciate them also have our own opinions. I myself find the practice of "SL babies" and "being pregnant" utterly repugnant. From the mouth of my friend "I've done it once, why the hell would I ever want to experience it again?", and I find myself (male as I am) agreeing. Why would anyone want to? I dislike it, but I keep my opinion to myself as it's their SL to live.

So, while my statement may be slightly cryptic, the point is that while YOU may find them offensive, we don't. It's artistic freedom. If I want to create a house of pain, torture, and murdering innocent babies, that's my artistic freedom, my freedom to do whatever the hell I want. You can take your overpriced pregnancy kit and use it to your liking. I don't like it, but you don't see me whinging about it on the forums (this example excluded) now do you? You don't control everyone. I don't control everyone (only my zombie babies).

Keep your opinions to yourself, not everyone wants to blindly follow you in your witchhunt for that which isn't normal.

P.S. Moo & Soleil: What a beautiful baby!

I find all the prim-baby and faux-pregnancy madness in SL to be pretty goddamn revolting (actually, I feel the same way about RL pregnancy and about women with so-called "baby lust"... *shudders*), but you don't hear me complaining, do you? Well, other than to my friends who feel the same way I do.



If you don't like it... don't look at it/listen to it/buy it/pay attention to it. Because....



That being said... check THIS out. If you think Grim Babies are offensive, this'll probably make you cry... XD

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