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Rant: Grim Babies!

Miles Edgeworth
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06-20-2006 14:26
Awesome. I'm going to have to check this out.

(If it pisses off the ageplayers, it's gotta be good.)
Jon Rolland
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06-20-2006 14:27
From: Hugsy Penguin
"Abusing Grim Babies are fun, Abusing real babies is not." is all the disclaimer that's needed for any normal person, if that.


Disclaimers like this aren't for normal people they are for people like the OP who have a too loose grasp on the difference between reality and imaginary especially if said people are motivated to encourage senseless bans. Welcome to freedom they are free to sell them and your free not to like it. And like it or not this thread in the general forums gives Grim Baby's ALOT of visibility they didn't previously have.
U8my Freelunch
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06-20-2006 14:30
after having a few too many prim babies spamming during events, i'm thinking of getting one. muhahahahah
Nyx Divine
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06-20-2006 14:31
While this doesn't seem to be anything I'd be interested and I can see your point *kinda*.

My first instinct was to find out WHO was selling them, not to demonize them, but out of curiosity, so I think you did inadvertantly provide great advertising for them.
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Elphaba Gould
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06-20-2006 14:31
This poste makes me LOL, yall are debating a creative box. After *the mall owner of the mall they were in* kicked these babies out, I gave them my whole sim :D not that these guys needed it, people love these babies, and have given them spots everywhere! but I think this type of fun doesn't come around to often. Prim babies drive me up one wall and down another, and adults playing kids!! a baby talking 30 yr old? dating a guy that plays an adult? and yall are debating a box??? I think their add says "if you have a weak tummy dont come here". So if you went in anyway, you were sorta asking for it. If they made a box that said so and so shakes the box, the box dies, would you be as upset? no. and really when you get down to it, thats all this is... a BOX!

Grim and Soc <3 I know you probably don;t read this, but if you do, you know I support your babies :D and hope for many more for my collection!!

HUGS El
Kim Anubis
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06-20-2006 14:32
STOP TO SELL BABIES IN BOXES! :mad:
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Canimal Zephyr
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06-20-2006 14:36
I posted it on PXP so I'll reply..

I understand the Grim Baby thing sounds warped but its meant to be warped cos it's a parody.
It's making fun of something and taking it to extremes for the sake of taking it to extremes. You're not supposed to realy think two people did it with a housecat & that's how a baby was born. You're not supposed to adopt the story like you do with goreans or vampires (you can if you want but that's a whole other issue)

The idea of it all is to to parody prim babies in an extreme way. The stories are laughable.
The stories are jokes & are not meant to be taken literaly.. Because it's prims.
It's SUPPOSED to be fun with prims. not hardcore sick role play.

& also I want to ad that you could have said this as a reply in PXP magazine.
Comments aren't just there to agree with the post every post is open to dicussion & your more then welcome to have your opinion.

I think it's great to open these things up for discussion as taste is never universal. :)
Nyx Divine
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06-20-2006 14:39
I have to add...sometimes those prim babies and the spam that accompanies them is annoying as hell, but I try to respect what others are trying to enjoy. So yes, I can see the Grim Babies as a huge parody.
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06-20-2006 14:40
From: Elphaba Gould
really when you get down to it, thats all this is... a BOX!


No it isn't. It's a pretend box.
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Nyx Divine
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06-20-2006 14:42
From: Gabe Lippmann
No it isn't. It's a pretend box.



A pretend box in a pretend world being abused by a pretend person.

But there is one roleplaying situation in SL I find very disagreeable, I guess I could be considered a hypocrite.

*wanders off to ponder that*
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Io Zeno
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06-20-2006 14:43
Here is also the salient point from the link:

From: someone
Here’s the sad part though: These babies are a limited edition. and in 30 days their gone. So if not to buy you should at least go look at the effort spent on them. Their well made both as a product AND a protest.


So, what I'm saying here is... how much? :D
Elphaba Gould
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06-20-2006 14:44
From: Nyx Divine
A pretend box in a pretend world being abused by a pretend person.



Wow that sounds positivly dreafull!! I may as well quit sl now, if there is pretend people doing pretend things in there, who will guide me in the correct way to roll play?
Paris Klein
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06-20-2006 14:49
I found these babies in a store shopping with my friend and her two sl kids. I do not have sl kids of my own, but do have several friends that do, and several that are SL pregnant. I understand alot of people hate that, and again just like this post, they are allowed. I think having a "pretend" child with the outcome that it will die in the end smack in the middle of a childrens store was just plain sick and am thrilled it was taken out as quickly as it was. So we didn't "walk in" to a store with a disclaimer, you placed it in a store where SL mother's shop with and for their kids so you need to correct your statement Elpha.

To the creatures, I think it's sick that you had to come down to such a sick thing for your SL enjoyment. I'm a RL mother, and yes this may only be SL...it still saddens me to think this is what people do for fun.

Paris
Lo Jacobs
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06-20-2006 14:53
From: Paris Klein
* To the creators, I think it's sick that you had to come down to such a sick thing for your SL enjoyment. I'm a RL mother, and yes this may only be SL...it still saddens me to think this is what people do for fun.

Paris


Actually, scratch that, "creatures" sounds better.
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Paris Klein
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06-20-2006 14:56
I meant creatures, b/c imho that's what they are for bringing something so sick into a children's world. And I know people are already flamming us..for *shock* omg actually having an opinion and speaking it out loud, but when you create an item that is obviously going to cause a stir, you need to be able to handle what people think of it, wether it be negative or positive.
Jon Rolland
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06-20-2006 14:58
It's NOT a children's world or atleast it's not supposed to be all those "kids" should be adults.
Willow Zander
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06-20-2006 15:00
I'm a RL mother too, but I don't see the harm in Grim Babies, but on the other hand I do see why some people would find it in bad taste, each to their own etc etc....

I loved the Garbage Pail Kids and when I first saw the babies that is what they reminded me of, so thats's the way I still see them. A lot of cartoons these days and even more widely in the older cartoons, animals, children and adults are all killed/hit/beatup/whatevered in a variety of different ways, is it wrong to let your children watch Tom and Jerry too, or the Simpsons? I saw an episode of Tom and Jerry where Jerry pushed a pram out into the middle of oncoming traffic and Jerry had to push it out of the way... BAN TEH CARTOOOOOONS.

Seriously, focus your attention on RL child abuse victims, help them, give to charity or whatever you can do to help them, its a much worthier cause than ranting here.
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Nyx Divine
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06-20-2006 15:01
From: Paris Klein
I meant creatures, b/c imho that's what they are for bringing something so sick into a children's world.



But this isn't a "children's world"
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Paris Klein
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06-20-2006 15:01
Children's World- Meaning, Inner Child Depot, the store in game for people who DO RP being kids and having kids.
Paris Klein
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06-20-2006 15:07
Seriously, focus your attention on RL child abuse victims, help them, give to charity or whatever you can do to help them, its a much worthier cause than ranting here.




I am as well an abuse survivor, so you have to understand why it is sick for someone to take a child prim, rl whatever....and abuse it for fun, joke about abuse, etc. What if one of the babies had cancer, or how about some are part animal....People have said, well if they start hurting kittens, let me know. But hitting or joking about hitting is okay? Alot of things can be joked about, but in a world that has adults, some that actually HAVE been beaten, or hurt in their lifetime, it's just sick. Having a prim child in world, who does that hurt? Anyone..no, it's for enjoyment. So making an anit-version in a retaliation joke to those who have fun in having prim children, and allowing others to kick it or hurt it or KILL it.....can you honestly tell me you see nothing wrong with that? Do I want them out of game..no. There is a place for everything in game, but I think they just picked the wrong place to start this out and now should hear and understand why.
Io Zeno
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06-20-2006 15:07
Paris, you are aware that many people find the prim baby movement annoying as hell (I don't care either way). And this, limited in number and availiblity, is meant as a satirical commentary on their dislike of said prims. The only way this could maybe annoy me is if people were buying what amounted to a prim representation of inworld people they don't like to abuse, in this case it's a prim version of another prim object. The babies in SL aren't even someone's avatar, they are a prim with a script. This is like "killing" a Linden shrub and getting upset about the environmental implications.

Or me trying to kill a Sim baby. Although I know there are people who will think that is "sick", although you will not find many people more upset by any account of a real child being abused than myself, for many reasons. I just was tired of and annoyed with the game and was taking my anger out on the most annoying thing in the game, which was nothing more than a cartoon with some programming attached to it. Really solid programming it turns out, since my attempts at Sim infanticide were a bust.
Elphaba Gould
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06-20-2006 15:07
There are allot of things in SL that I wouldn't bring into a childrens world. I have a 14 yr old daughter and would have zero issue with her playing with a grim babie. She has a collection of living dead dolls, I think its really the same idea, except those are dead children.

Of course my daughter knows that it isn't right to take your anger out on living things, but inantimate objects.... even Dr's say that is good for your mental health, so maybe you should ask Grim for a PRIM babie, kick it a few times, and then stop causing such a fuss about nothing!
Jon Rolland
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06-20-2006 15:07
But it's still an adults world just because they play kids doesn't change the fact they are adults and it IS an adult world. As adults everyone should be mature enough to recognize Grim Baby's for the harmless toy they are. Does Fawn have to allow them in her sim? Absolutely not but nothing sick was done in placing them there. No one is tramatizing real children and real adults should be mature enough not to be tramatized.
Phedre Aquitaine
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06-20-2006 15:10
I'm a mother of three /actual/ children - and I find the grim baby funny as hell....


Of course, I have zero sympathy for all the "prim mommies" who get ripped off, so I'm obviously a /bad bad person/. I also have no patience for people who demand that their prim babies get as much consideration as my actual children, so I must be an /even worse person/.

Now... where can I get one? :D
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Surreal Farber
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06-20-2006 15:10
I'm not sure why so many people are attacking the original poster. I understand her reaction. She finds the concept disturbing regardless of it being flesh or roleplay. She doesn't want to be around the minds behind the acts/product.

For as much as we all say that SL isn't Real Life, it is. As long as there are real people behind the avatars, then it's real. Just because no pixels were harmed in the making of this <fill in the blank> doesn't mean that it's not going to make some people feel sick.

I would challenge the people on this thread to think about what would NOT be acceptable to you in SL. Really dig down and see what things would revolt and offend you to see roleplayed.

I'll offer a couple of my own. I have no tolerance for rape roleplay, beating up queers, or snuffporn. I don't care that it's pretend. I don't want to be around people who think like that's entertainment.

Also consider what personal experiences might cause someone to have no sense of humor on a subject. Someone who survived childhood abuse isn't likely to be amused. What do you expect.
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