Rant: Grim Babies!

Oh come on! Tell you what, I'll log in later and you and me can go beat prim babies with sticks. Release some of that tension.

No! All dolls should receive equal opportunities to be abused!

Barbie has babies. Anyone ever hear of Kelly? Is a Kelly doll, not a barbie?

No prision?? what should we do with the SICK people that enjoy Grim babies? Public floggings? Stonings? hangings? quarter and draw? or did you not get that far?

I will be taking reservations later for people interested in flogging, stoning, hanging and/or draw and quartering my little avie.

Good point. I guess what no-one has said is what they would like seen done with Grim Babies? Do they really want them removed? I really wouldn't like someone being able to tell me what they feel is or isnt sutable for sl. I mean as long as its leagle. I think the first to go after Grim Babies would be prim babies, the avitar children, then furries, then the gore/bdsm people, pretty soon were in a world full of just plain boxes. Doesn't sound like much fun.

Ican go as far as to say I dont like red lipstick..... make abig fuss about it on the boards, but why? Once you start posts like these then new rules that could remove things you DO actualy enjoy, may come into play.

First of all, my intention of posting the forum was not to have it removed, but to voice my concern openly.
As far as the RL children go, If I saw my daughter shaking her doll, slapping it, and stabbing it any way on purpose or if I saw a doll like this in Toysrus, you could bet I would say something. I am all for the welfare of a child and the fact is the IDEA of it is sick and twisted, there is a few worse things in life then abuse of a child. I understand and respect the creative side of the things I have seen in SL, even the ones I don't agree with. I just do not like the idea whether it is "joking" or a "parody" of anything. I would feel the same if someone built the twin towers with a plane hanging out of it.
Since I am just a resident all I could do is voice my opinion. That is why I havent been responding to all the trivial replies that you could find on these forums.

The Prim babies are all about having the second life experience of being a parent. The Grim babies on the other hand are all about having the second life experience of being a child abuser/murder. Maybe the real question then is...What kind of person would need to have that second life experience?

Umm, NO, it's not.

The only reason the Grim babies exist is because regular prim babies exist. And because some people think prim babies are weird, they decided to make some prim babies themselves as a joke (I think you can slap whoever is holding the baby? I'm not sure).

It is commentary on the innate oddity of adults pretending to have newborn babies and toddlers.

Is it really so difficult to grok?

oh wait oh wait - you are... oh wait.... hahahahhahahahaha...

you are COMPLAINING about a product that is probably based of a set of collecters cards that are over 10years old ? (http://garbage-pail-kids.stores.yahoo.net/index.html)

walk to a mall - look in the toy/collectors/rock stores and find an entire generation of stuff like this - goth babys - dead babies - etc.... is this stuff worse than the bratz dolls that are AIMED at the younger market - and tell them to 'go Girl!' 'put makeup on' 'that guy is so cute''wear a miniskirt' etc

wanna complain about something -complain about something that is AIMED at the younger market and deemed inapropiate to be used as play things day in/day out - not at the adult market as collecters items as novelty items

at least barbie wasnt a slut

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on reserching this message i went to thebratz website.. omg the spring break edition dolls? what? do you chuck beads at em for plastic flashing? debauchery for the 'tweenie's (the not child but not teenager age group)

OK, your kid, your rules. But I already have a mommy IRL and I don't need another one here.



A person who is sick to death of all the godawful "Tummy says: You're having a craving!" supersaccharine crap that I endure whenever I'm around someone who thinks this is a necessary part of their Second Life.

I don't know why the creators of those scripts didn't make them use llOwnerSay. Why on earth did they think the whole room wants to know that?

I'm sure the creators know that the whole room doesn't want to hear that cutesy nonsense. But they also know that the owners do want the whole room to hear it.

And who's paying the bills?

Once again that is not what I said.

I understand the fact...There are garbage pail kids. I liked them as a child and that is NOT what we are talking about here. Dead dolls,barbie etc...IF there is a doll out there that kids could KILL and shake to death in "make believe land" then you could bring that in this conversation but none of your examples are equal to the grim babies. Obviously there isnt any out there that are meant to be killed that resemble a baby. Guaranteed they would be pulled from the shelf asap. I wasnt even asking that, I was just commenting to a product that is tasteless and I am extremely surprised at the majority of lack of tact and morals. Parody or Spoof or a Joke...Regardless of all those..The item IDEA (Not the doll itself, I have already said it is a creative prim babie) but the IDEA itself is SICK and NOT AT ALL FUNNY. I personally cannot stand the prim babies talking, but they do have a quiet mode to them I have been told, so take it up with the annoying people who choose to have them on. Mute them...do whatever but to recreate a prim baby that you intentionally allow to abuse...sad. You would allow it in a game but not in RL...Very hypocritical.

I just killed two for you. Their prim blood is on your hands lady!

On the flip side, try to get a grip. SL is whataver a person wants it to be. I find people with SL babies not "Having the SL experience of having a child" rather I see it as grown ups playing with dolls. I bet you pulled off a dolls head or two as a kid.

Get over yourself, and drop this grade school psychobabble. Now, excuse we while I slap the mother of my grimbaby.

I truly hope you don't count yourself amongst the level minded.

So all of you anti Grim Baby people think that a woman rp'ing being pregnant in SL and having her tummy telling her that she's craving vodka is a-ok? I'm offended...the number of children born with birth defects as a result of an alcoholic mother is far greater than the number of mothers who murder their children. Get a grip on reality!

Personally I think spousal abuse, alcoholism, and the beating of deformed babies is making this a far more rounded society. FYI.

Okay it is common knowledge that some of you don't like the Grim Babies. Okay we get that. I kind of see Second Life as a "Virtual Buffet" (not of the parrothead variety). There are many different ecletic items on a buffet.. some of whilch you personally will love ..and some of which you won't particularly care about. I kind of equate the people protesting this as someone moving down a buffet and stopping at the Ham and getting angry and demanding the ham be removed. Hey maybe some of the rest of us want ham.. point is if you don't like it then don't buy it or endorse it. I was abused physically as a kid but i'm not upset about it.. in fact I do think its kind of funny myself. Everything in SL is a surreal sort of experience.

On a side note..just because you can abuse the Grim baby does not mean you have to elect to do so... its only an option and not mandatory that comes on all the dolls. And anyone that will argue that this would promote abuse towards the baby has to remember in RL you can choose to either abuse or not abuse a real kid.

*DaVinci Doctorow does not endorse child abuse, or the buying of babies prim or real.

Funny. All sorts of support for these Grim-babies.

I wonder, how much support would something similar, based on another group like Blacks, Asians, Jews, or other group last? I'm sure it would get the same approval and encouragement as the grim baby concept. After all, SL is just pretend, so it's harmless, and it certainly doesn't automatically mean that the person doing the killing in SL has that in mind in real life. Right?

I am level minded because I am standing up for something I believe in...and what I would in RL...Abuse is not a joke PERIOD..In RL or in a game...I am actually surprised secondlife allows their residents to go that far, definitly more surprised that someone took it that far.

Hence The "Grand Theft Auto" game..


I guess there is a reason that the game got changed, and how many more games are being banned from more and more countries..


"The GTA series enables players to participate in virtual rape, murder and many other horrible acts for two purposes: entertainment, and profit for the developers and publishers. "

"Video games pose a greater "danger" to our culture than books, plays and movies. They allow the players to participate directly in the activities and share the risks and rewards through their avatar in the game.

Is stupidity involved? Sure, but any society that allows this kind of "entertainment" is responsible as well. There are some things that just shouldn't be.

Do I recommend banning all video games? Of course not! I love to play games on my PC, but there is a line that can be crossed, and I truly can't understand why we don't have enough discretion and common sense to understand this as a society when these vile games are sitting on our store shelves.

Me? I'll stand for God and sanity any day, whether it is popular or not--no matter how much of a narrow-minded fool I appear to those in a society that has lost its direction"
News.com

Somebody already mentioned a 'my little concentration camp' or something. Speaking as a Jew myself I wasn't offended. Taking offence is admitting defeat. Nothing in this thread is truly harmful and cannot affect you or your loved ones. Relax. It's a twisted bit of fun and it annoys people. That's healthy.

Wow, I have an idea! You'll like this. How about we completely throw away the concept of personal accountability and blame someone else. Sound good? This attitude sickens me. Our blame culture is repulsive. ITS THE GAMES! ITS MOVIES! meh

If that is true, why does Linden Labs take action against such things when people complain about them?