sincere question about tipping in clubs

nah -

those examples are funny and all -

but in that situation you wouldn't want to be roleplaying with the idiot. Since thats what hes doing.

all emotes should stop

Tell him off and move on.

I tip DJ's....usually repeatedly through the night, and extra if they play a request. I'll tip the donation box of the club, and the host usually gets a couple hundred linden (not always, I'm broke a lot in SL..depends on if business has been good or bad). I tip my friends who dance to earn a living in SL when they're dancing, but the clubs I frequent don't have dancers/strippers.

That brings up something that bugs me. When I earlier said I use to be a dancer I meant that I had been a stripper. I put on a show. I did lots of emoting, flirting and such for tips as I disrobed and made tips doing so. I don't really go to strip clubs myself but that makes sense to me to tip strippers. I don't understand tipping a regular dancer in a club no matter how much they interact with me. So someone clicks on a pole to dance and chats with me and I'm suppose to tip them? I find the practice very odd. I tip because I don't want to be a jerk, but it's not much.

I had writen something very similar Bradley, and then deleted it...


8 times in total, because I didnt wanna start a battle or get flamed...but I feel the same way.

The reason I quit "dancing" in SL was because I didnt like being a "chat fluff girl" which is what an SL dancer is "in my opinion"!!! (KEY WORDS THERE People.....My Opinion......not gospel) ...I also do not require chat fluffing.....and get quite embarassed and flubberlytongued to try to participate in chat-fluffing, either giving or recieving....

there's one strip club I've been to recently.....first one in a LONG time, and there were 2 guys "stripping" and they were very polite, and sweet! and I tipped them, but pushed off their "thank you emotes" just because I didnt want that part of the transaction. Just wanted to tip them because they'd been nice to me in chat...and made me feel very welcome without putting anything sexual in to the conversation.

The way I figure it the dancers in non strip clubs are surrogate for servers that a bar/restaurant would have.

since the club cant sell real drinks/ food.

And yes, just a little bit is all anyone Ive known who does it hopes for.

They know if they wanted "big"relatively speaking) tips its a different sort of dancing they would have to do.

Hmm the reason I tip staff is it shows the owner is concerned about his patronage, many places the dancers also double as security, ejecting and banning idiots or at least gaining quick access to an officer, so regulars can enjoy their time there, so I tip them for the service they may provide when guests need it rather than having to jump through a IM hoops to an owner not online or officer trying to do something about the clown who comes in to orbit people.

The only clubbing experience I have is from RL, never been in one in SL. I've got to say, all this tipping stuff is a bit confusing to me, (and yes, Bradley, I had to eventually guess that some people where talking about exotic dancers, LoL) I've been to music events and tipped the performer in 100-300 increments + the host/venue. If I understand correctly, if I go to a regular club, I should tip friendly people who talk to me? I'm sorry but, I can't see myself paying for that. Hosts, yes. Venue, yes. People who chat me up? Is this what a club is? I know there are differences with RL clubs ($ from drinks + cover), so why do people go?

If you go to a smorgesborg, where the server doesn't do much more than take away the empty plates; do you leave a tip?

Kinda similar

Them being social is providing atmosphere.

Hitting on you wouldn't be part of their job though! Unless its an escort club.

They are working, they are making only tips, a few lindens (10-20) isn't a lot.

The ones not even doing anything - well - they arent actually working.

Well exactly, if you want staff at a place you enjoy being at and want the owner to keep it open you contribute something finacially, if not most aren't going to bother managing the club, redecorating, or booking performers and DJ's and staff won't bother being there.
And $50L is like 1cent US. it's peanuts, but it does say you respect their efforts.
Not tipping staff that greet you is like saying. "I don't care if there are staff or the club is automated and empty"

Thank You for the effort in replying, Tegg! Although, I don't believe you understood my question. To be fair, maybe I wasn't too clear.

Again, I've never been to a SL club. I was asking about the NO-strip clubs, (having a sister in-law who is an exotic dancer in RL, I understand more than most about 'chatting-up' and that it IS work). I am more curious about differentiating between staff and customers in regular clubs. What exactly do these staff members do? I don't mean the Host/Manager/DJ, this is pretty clear to me, but people seem to imply that there are others who talk to you and need to be tipped... I just don't know who they are, and what it is that they do.

Yes, I could just try and figure it out myself by just going to a club, but I wanted to be prepared. Isn't this what this thread is about? I just didn't want to make a 'faux pas'.

I know very well how much $50L is worth, and I assume that a lot of work goes into running a club, but nowhere in my post did I imply that I was against tipping, I just needed a few pointers on who is actually working.

Problem is there are many of these types in the clubs these days. Too many are way too tacky and well childish...... Some that only speak dirty without any real style of hosting or dancing. "Fluff Girl" as you said can be a real degrading thing at times. But those that can do it , do it well. But those that can`t are OMG bad! Not saying if you were good or bad, but these days there is no style like i the early days. Then again there are more men in dance clubs then ever before ( being men in girls avies ).

I've always wondered the type of insecurity that drives people to post things like this.

I know that you are a woman Usagi, so obviously you know first hand that women play SL, and I assume you are an individual - not a stereotype.

Why would you go and stereotype another group of women like that?

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You see it a lot, from men and women - like somehow they think all women are like this, or all women are like that.

How patently insulting.

Who the hell wants to be pigeoned-holed into some range of "Acceptable" womanly behavior?

If ya just want music and a quiet chat with your partner, why not just stay home and play the radio?

Clubs are social environments

Some people actualy go to them to interact with other people

Goin just for the variety of music happens as well..do it myself too

Chat spammy though?
I can`t imagine how some txt on the bottom of your screen somehow interferes with your Listening pleasures,if your just there for the musical variety and convo with your partner, ever heard of IM? ignore the text at the bottom and Focus on Your IM`s with your partner and enjoy the music

Or just stay home and play the radio

But hey, maybe ya just like havin somethin to complain about
To each their own

We go for the music and to dance. You're right, we could do that at home and these days we usually do. As for your other comments, I said GESTURE spam, ya know, the dozens of howls and baby laughs and other nonsense that apparently everyone else finds oh so clever or amusing to play over and over and over again, the staff included. And yeah, I know about IM, it's about all I use to talk to my partner, if we were forced to try to talk in public chat we'd not see a thing each other said.

Any decent dancer will appreciate a tip of any size. If they know their job, then they know not everyone has massive amounts of $L, and that just maybe that newbie looking guy who tipped you $1L today will come back next week an throw $1,000L at you.

Personally I generally tip $200L a time, but I can afford to do it. Seriously, tip what you are happy spending.

When I used to dance I received everything from a box of freebie roses (ie they had no money at all but wanted to do something nice), right up to several thousand L$. I actually remember the rose better than the huge tips

That's a case of a bad dancer.

To those accusing dancers of being begging zombies, I humbly suggest you not what you talk of. There may be some out there, but that doesn't mean all of us, or even some of us are.

I will grant you the dancing itself takes no effort, click yer chim and go. In no particular order though, this is what I do do at the club I work for.

1) Greet every person who enters the club, make them feel welcome. Also, say goodbye, also answer questions.
2) Engage folks in conversation, try and make the place feel fun and lively.
3) Always be willing to talk to a complete stranger in IM, flirt with them, make them feel good.
4) Be eye candy. I spend a lot of money making sure I'm in theme for any event. There are also times I'm naked. While I don't strip for tips, I'm still there to be looked at.

I do a bit of "off event" dancing too, at those times I'll spam for the dj, announce in the vip chat and generally be a fill in host, sometimes for 4-5 hours at a time. If there's no dj and the club's on the radio, I'll try and get a dj.

I may just be a dancer, but I work.

Sometimes I like to tip L$1 and say "There you go; buy yourself something pretty."

But anyone who frequents this forum regularly will not be suprised by that.

LOL

hey 1$ is better than nothin.

If only L¢ existed.

I assume the fur coat was the result of the no knickers?

I tip at least $L250 if like the service cause..its only a dollar for heavens sake and an amount of someone's time is at least worth that.

I have tipped as high as $L20000...and everyone had their knickers on.

I don't get out much, but I guess I would spread 1-2k around depending on how many tip jars there were. More if I got paid during my time there, but I'm lucky enough to make L$, so I like to spend at least some of it back in SL. So that's buying outfits, and tipping hosts, djs, staff.

When I dance I do my best to make people feel welcome, keep the mood festive, stimulate fun/witty conversation, and feel responsible that everyone has a good time. I understand that some people don't care about all that, but if you do then even a token small tip makes me feel appreciated.

wait.....you actually gave up 1l? O.o!!!