lindens latest blog: dob a neighbour

How about Dan "Hammurabi" L and our new Moral Code?


Some Highlights ..


"If any one bring an accusation against a man, and the accused go to the river and leap into the river, if he sink in the river his accuser shall take possession of his house. But if the river prove that the accused is not guilty, and he escape unhurt, then he who had brought the accusation shall be put to death, while he who leaped into the river shall take possession of the house that had belonged to his accuser."

"If any one bring an accusation of any crime before the elders, and does not prove what he has charged, he shall, if it be a capital offense charged, be put to death."

"If he hold the slaves in his house, and they are caught there, he shall be put to death."

"If a man's wife be surprised (in flagrante delicto) with another man, both shall be tied and thrown into the water"

"If a man violate the wife (betrothed or child-wife) of another man, who has never known a man, and still lives in her father's house, and sleep with her and be surprised, this man shall be put to death, but the wife is blameless."

"If the 'finger is pointed' at a man's wife about another man, but she is not caught sleeping with the other man, she shall jump into the river for her husband."
"If a builder build a house for some one, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built fall in and kill its owner, then that builder shall be put to death."

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and the newest ...

"I anyone is guilty of being Broadly Offensive they shall be put to D .. I mean banned"

If you can make a sim an "adult Area" by the very nature of calling it an "adult area" it implies that the people there are the age of consent. You start limiting that and you give individual's the right to decide whats right for each other, with out the people effected having a voice. That by it's very nature destroys what makes sl work. You do this and allow this you not be a secondlife. You'll be a puppet.

It's nothing to do with hiding anything. It's to do with extra trouble (if she wants to visit dell.com, she doesn't need to verify her identity first), and also with malassociation (if SL is the place where you have to verify age in order to sign up because there's porn around, then anyone who uses it risks being associated with porn even if they have never actually viewed any)

This is my biggest concern, that it's being touted as an adult verification rather than an identity verification.

Builders, for example, could verify to show they are trustworthy - or to even build jobs for companies selling adult material - but in no way be wanting to spend hours pixel bumping.

Broccoli

Jesus, just make the Teen Grid the G and PG rated grid and the main grid the R and X Grid.

When my father was a child (almost 100 years ago!) "pushing the envelope" meant men waiting on a street corner to get a glimpse of a woman's sexy ankles as she stepped up the curb!

Sorry limits are limits and vague ones simply mean a witch hunt!

You are kidding right?

There was a very similar disclaimer at the entrance to "Jailbait" before they got destroyed.

Look at the good it did them ...

Over the weekend I checked out my archive of old landmarks (>1 mo old) and found that almost 60% are now "under new management". The old name could not be found in the search either.

I understand there is quite a turnover of businesses, but this is ridiculous!

Some like "Jailbait" are easy to figure out, but shopping malls and other everyday things really puzzle me.

"Mature" and "PG" are the only disclaimers needed along w/the Terms of Service and Community Standards already in place. The fact they put up an additional disclaimer is above and beyond the call of duty. Probably because they've already had problems with other morality police in the past.

Turn over is a reality in SL. Personally I know a few places left once the "age verification" started to rear it's ugly head. Now it's evolved into what we have now. Maybe that's why your landmarks >1 month are old or maybe the places you visited were lame, I don't know. Delete them and move on.

This isn't true, I'm afraid. Although the TOS says no-one under 18 is supposed to be on the main grid, it also says that you may not make any assumptions that anyone other than yourself on the grid is in fact over 18. See:

OMG I never saw that! They really are planning on not being liable for ANYTHING.

well what should we expect it to say?

"We are 100% sure no one under 18 stole Mom's Information to make an account, including the ones who live in Mom's basement"

It's absolutley true. Its what we've been running on all this time and it has worked wonderfully. Also... the TOS only puts a disclaimer in that they cannot guaruntee that everyone on SL is 18 or older and rightftully so. There will always be minors that do things they aren't supposed to and sneak into places they shoudln't. They are not saying you should treat other people like they could potentially be a minor behind the avatar which should be 18 or over.

Are there going to be minors that access the adult grid. You bet! But it isn't our fault that they are breaking the rules and we should not be punished for it. You can't nurse maid the entirety of society.

Here's a thought to ponder for the purists.

Do you honestly believe there isn't cybersex on the Teen Grid between teens? Sure, they may not have the same "equipment" we do on the adult grid, but in the old days of IRC I didn't even need an avatar to have cyber. What should we do when an 11 or 12 year old sneak onto the "Teen" grid and god forbid, hear the word "shit"?

Children are having RL sex so it isn't a stretch to think they are doing it in SL. And they know every swera word I know of, and probably a lot i don't know.

I'm just glad for Google, it's helped me work out quite a few words I've come across in SL that I've never heard before.

Broccoli

I still think the teen grid was a mistake.

SL should have been 18+ until protections were stable enough (some future time far from now) the system actually worked.

If they cant even regulate content controls for adults in an adult community between adults, they have no business getting meddled up in a Teen SL.

I hear some everyday that even Google can't deal with.

But you see, as far as (it seems) many governments concerned, we *can* "nursemaid the entirety of society" - simply by having no pornography at all, anywhere.

K - start with the regular internet first.

As many have speculated, myself included, we will soon see a single grid system, with an end to the teen grid overall.

Mari

Never happen, images of sex go back to wood carvings and mud sculptures.

Dont forget live naked people

Wouldnt want people to see that.

So lets Blindfold everyone.

First of all, that isn't "nursemaiding" that is censorship. If all governments censored everyone then it becomes a fascist world. It limits the freedom of every individual because it places a moral "meter stick" on everyone. Then who decides what describes "pornography"?

So, are you saying you are in support of censorship on a global scale?

I've heard that. That would be stupid. Then again, since I'm an Star Wars Galaxies refugee, I know that it can and does happen. I think SOE retained *maybe* 1% of their customers after completely changing the game engine. LL should take a lesson from that.

Sorry if it's been linked to already, but I couldn't find it on search .

It seems Daniel did an hour long workshop, talking about governance in a virtual world. The video available at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2642394922604088000 and skip to just past the 15:00 mark for the bit about ageplay and community standards specifically (it seems to be recorded before the German story hit).

Short summary: the guidelines are vague on purpose so that new things can be banned as time progresses, based on "community input", without having to rewrite anything.
"Official" admission that the disclosure part of the community standards is getting binned.

Other interesting tidbits:
23:30: Talks about the futility of banning residents, and how it will happen less and less and the burden will be on the land owner to keep anyone out.