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DaQbet Kish
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09-10-2008 10:32
From: Colette Meiji
I wonder how many would react to the idea that this entire thread could just be a sophisticated example of gaming/trolling the forums.

Where’s that Groan button when I need it.
Colette Meiji
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09-10-2008 10:42
From: DaQbet Kish
Where’s that Groan button when I need it.


You don't think theres a possible coincidence in the fact that "Her Quandary" had this happen to her?

Is it a case of a self-fulfilling prophesy instead?
DaQbet Kish
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09-10-2008 10:46
From: Colette Meiji
You don't think theres a possible coincidence in the fact that "Her Quandary" had this happen to her?

Is it a case of a self-fulfilling prophesy instead?

I think from what I’ve read in all these “relationship” threads she just happened to come up with a cool name is all.
DaQbet Kish
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09-10-2008 10:47
or she's an alt :eek:
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09-10-2008 10:55
From: DaQbet Kish
I believe that exploring the full depth and range of ones capabilities both mentally and emotionally is not a sin but a blessing and I have yet to find myself alone in that journey.

No you are not.
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Colette Meiji
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09-10-2008 10:55
From: DaQbet Kish
I think from what I’ve read in all these “relationship” threads she just happened to come up with a cool name is all.


From: DaQbet Kish
or she's an alt :eek:


Neither precludes the theory I mentioned.

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Its most certain that she is an alt.

The question more is - is this a legitimate concern she has, or something else?


That someone named "Her Quandary" would show up out of the blue and wish to discuss this topic in front of/with total strangers is what would be strange.
Amaranthim Talon
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09-10-2008 10:55
From: DaQbet Kish
or she's an alt :eek:

There are no such things as alts- they are revolting... Or did.. I forget..
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Her Quandry
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09-10-2008 11:03
From: Colette Meiji
Neither precludes the theory I mentioned.

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Its most certain that she is an alt.

The question more is - is this a legitimate concern she has, or something else?


That someone named "Her Quandary" would show up out of the blue and wish to discuss this topic in front of/with total strangers is what would be strange.

and this was answered above.
However trolls dont read the entire thread before jumping in to make an off hand comment.
I may add total strangers? Who else is going to understand SL Relationships, my mailman?
From: Her Quandry
Its really not a trolling issue, I did and still kind of do have a dilemma with the entire situation. We have talked my and things are smoothing out. I am so lucky to have an understanding man by my side in world. I do appreciate the actual ability of everyone here to have a intellectual discussion on this over played thread from the past. Its just proof to me that the forums are not as bad as ppl say as too mean posters and no "real help" offered here. ty



Seriously I do have things going on and this thread has been very helpful to me.
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Zeus Serpente
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09-10-2008 11:09
From: Amaranthim Talon
There are no such things as alts- they are revolting... Or did.. I forget..

We are waiting for the right time to revolt. :)
Colette Meiji
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09-10-2008 11:12
From: Her Quandry
and this was answered above.


You answered it above.

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Whether or not I accept the answer; that is a different story.

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I wont belabor the point - I just spoke my opinion. I wasn't the only one considering the possibility.


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Good luck in your SL romance and your Real Life relationship.

Often they do not work out - and if its the Real Life relationship that suffers that is a lot harder to handle.

SL relationships are often lot easier to replace.
Hera Stand
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09-10-2008 11:15
From: Zeus Serpente
We are waiting for the right time to revolt. :)


In that case, the chintz curtains may be the last straw...
wALT Oppewall
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09-10-2008 11:16
From: DaQbet Kish
or she's an alt :eek:

Always blaming the alts :mad:
From: Zeus Serpente
We are waiting for the right time to revolt. :)

Soon Zues. Soon :)
Maureen Boccaccio
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09-10-2008 11:17
From: Hera Stand
In that case, the chintz curtains may be the last straw...


straw!! I knew I forgot one more item when shopping for the renovation.

(@Her: sorry for the brief derailment)
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Her Quandry
I just dont know...
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09-10-2008 11:17
From: Colette Meiji
You answered it above.

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Whether or not I accept the answer; that is a different story.

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I wont belabor the point - I just spoke my opinion. I wasn't the only one considering the possibility.


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Good luck in your SL romance and your Real Life relationship.

Often they do not work out - and if its the Real Life relationship that suffers that is a lot harder to handle.

SL relationships are often lot easier to replace.



true
You dont have to accept I was just stating my truth, to clarify is all.

As far as my FL its really amazingly ok with SL, I would stop any involvement that would cause it any detriment. My only problem was with my SL and keeping that in prespective and healthy.
Really ty guys.
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Amaranthim Talon
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09-10-2008 11:32
Her- balance comes- it takes time. This is true about life in general as I am sure you have noticed by now. Glad all the back and forth gave you fodder - decisions are of course yours to make.
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Solanghe Sarlo
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09-10-2008 13:53
From: eku Zhong
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
SL and thrills of Secret Romance,
Or to take arms against a sea of poseballs,
And by opposing end them? To Log Off: to Sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand virtual shocks
That an Avatar is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To Log Off, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep offline what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this virtual coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of second life;
For who would bear the whips and spankers of time,>> snip



Eku, you win the thread. Brilliant.

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09-10-2008 14:17
I missed that poem I guess it was deleted?
It was nice one, I didn't see it.
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Maureen Boccaccio
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09-10-2008 14:22
From: FD Spark
I missed that poem I guess it was deleted?
It was nice one, I didn't see it.


here it is: (post 102: /327/9b/281052/5.html#post2142554)

From: eku Zhong
To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
SL and thrills of Secret Romance,
Or to take arms against a sea of poseballs,
And by opposing end them? To Log Off: to Sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand virtual shocks
That an Avatar is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To Log Off, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep offline what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this virtual coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of second life;
For who would bear the whips and spankers of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the lag's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a ruthed bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a second life,
But that the dread of something after Log Off,
The undiscover'd Region from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those EMOs we have
Than TP to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of Windlight,
And enterprises of great prims and moment
With this regard their Avatars turn awry,
And lose the name of animation. - Soft you now!
The fair Desired Avi, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember'd.
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09-10-2008 14:25
From: Solanghe Sarlo
Eku, you win the thread. Brilliant.

Solanghe

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09-10-2008 15:01
From: DaQbet Kish
or she's an alt :eek:

Ya think?
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09-10-2008 18:59
From: Dana Hickman
You yourself wrote the effective means for emotional boundaries only 1 paragraph below where you said it can't be done:

That's right.. it doesn't mean that you should or can properly choose all choices that lead deeper into love.. if that love (or the extent of it) is proving to be a problem.
When the outcome of a particular choice is known from experience, it becomes predictable. If it's predictable, it can be averted. If someone knows from experience that snuggling, for example, leads them to feelings of intense emotional bonding and that's a danger area for them... logically choosing not to engage in that little bit of snuggling averts the problem end result before it can affect them. A logical choice has just put into play an emotional boundary and avoided a situation where one knows they'll lose control. It's not rocket science.. alcoholics have been using this same method and choosing NOT to have that first drink for ages. In the same way Logic CAN temper love and be a powerful asset, one just has to be willing to let it.


Hey It's almost too late in the thread to go back to this but let me just thank Dana for bringing this up, it's a great point. And yes made me think. So yeah, I agree with what you're saying.

For me, this works simply. I meet a man, he's married (or lets say now I am, practically)...so because I'm one selfish buggar, and don't share my toys well...I move on then and there. If someone's already occupied (or I am) then the choice is move on before you fall in love...which is remarkably easier said than done on most occasions, and is why Shakespeare and that FABU poem ring so true.

Maybe there is no clear cut answer on this, but I do think you can set boundaries BEFORE love happens, realizing that SL love has real mojo and can very much affect RL. By this I mean find other people or other things to do with your time if you sense a problem coming. Just like AA...heh...in fact.

"This too shall pass"

That poem, btw, was...wow...made my morning wake up sooo nice. :p

If you wanna see how many people are taking online love to RL (not just SL), check this little corner of the web: http://members.lovingyou.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=22

Same story, over and over again...
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09-10-2008 19:22
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook
I'm aware that it's real, to most people, myself included. However, those of you who who meet your SL loves and take it to RL (and make it work) are *still* in the minority.


Same is true in RL, my friend. Most situations, including marriages, DON'T work out (which is probably good or we'd all be married for life at 16 *shudder*). But in my small social circle on SL, I know two other couples in process of going RL.

I mentioned in another thread recently that it is "not really that special or rare" to be RL from an online or SL relationship (see the link above to the online love forums and how many people are talking there) based on the emails I've gotten and evidence I've seen.

Anyhow, so what? When you love someone, regardless of if it works or not (whatever that means), you don't just love them on a Tuesday or when your computer happens to be on. Love is love is love.

If you take it with you when you log off, then it is your RL. :rolleyes:
eku Zhong
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09-10-2008 21:04
I love your blog... and i get you totally

like i said me and my SO met online too.. and yes its a leap of faith but its like that for everyone...
how many times have you heard a friend say .. boy did he/she change when we got married...

and thats ppl who met in RL

but meeting online lets you communicate far more than in a RL relationship... the whole thing is accelerated... and more intense

but the funny thing is .. 4 years later and we still talk as much.

way to go Randoym ^^
Randoym Randt
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09-10-2008 21:09
From: eku Zhong
I love your blog... and i get you totally

like i said me and my SO met online too.. and yes its a leap of faith but its like that for everyone...
how many times have you heard a friend say .. boy did he/she change when we got married...

and thats ppl who met in RL

but meeting online lets you communicate far more than in a RL relationship... the whole thing is accelerated... and more intense

but the funny thing is .. 4 years later and we still talk as much.

way to go Randoym ^^


Damn it all to hell, you made my WHOLE FRIGGIN WEEK. Thank You! THANK U THANK U THANKS!

:D :D :D
Colette Meiji
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09-10-2008 21:19
It is nice to hear about stories working out :)


Thats what people wanted and it worked out, thats great.

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The only problem I see if those wanna-be-Eharmony types expect everyone to want that! lol.
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