Big Shuffle in the All Search. Will it last?

And?

Just because I see topics that catch my eye and post happen to be the same as 3 they posted in means little. I imagine there are plenty more I haven't posted in.

As for manipulation of traffic, bots were never needed. I could easily have had numbers that would make many whimper and gotten paid to do it.

All I'd have to do is set up one of the "vote for" contest with a 500l fee, and a pot that is 300lx number of entries. Said contests are nothing more than see how has the most friends, alts, or bots. Some malls run them daily, others with weekly runs. But the effect is the same, insane traffic numbers once memberships were opened to being free as people call in everyone on the friend lists, group spam, and bring in the alt armies.

Guess those nasty ethics got in the way of getting paid to manipulate search and cheat renters if I charged instead based on traffic counts.

Oh and I call things unethical because that is how I see them, probably a side effect from rl work

Maybe it's just me....but I have a huge problem discussing and/or defending business ethics with:

a) someone using an alt in forum to back up their main av who got fried in a debate

b) a disgruntled unsuccessful business owner who wants to blame their business failure on every other business owner making a go of it

c) someone who has never run a business in SL, but has decided it is their mission to teach ethics to business owners

d) a vampire or werewolf

try E) none of the above

But hard to argue with one who hides behind insults as well as false claims to refuse to talk about the topic.

I pointed out how I could easily enough have been paid to do what many are doing with bots. Even how I could have used a rent based on traffic model to utilize that increased traffic to boost my income even more.

Hmmh....if it smells rotten.....then most likely it is rotten!

kinda like a troll from where I am downwind of you.

Lol - what made you think that last comment of mine had anything to do with you?



Its kind of strange that when i first wrote the comment below not directly referring to anyone by name at 12.48



to which I only got 1 reply at 12.53....from you!



What made you think i was referring to you initially and why the need for a non requested explaination of your account?

If i was a betting man and only a Linden could prove this......I venture you'd have the same IP address as a certain MortVent Charron !!!

Lol -tell me its not so !

Due to you posting it right after my post. simple enough to figure out if you were not trolling, and I've looked at your posting history.

All I see is trolling, some of which should have gotten you banned. Including the thread where you and him already discussed your gender Mr Rene

hey!

Nice cover up MortVent

claiming to have been a successful mall owner in 03/04 in a thread bri is participating in... well she will have you sussed in maybe 3 seconds.

When you explain the 9 things in detail, I'll consider a discussion with you. Your "9 things" list is simply you doing your usual 'because I say so / proof by repetition'. You don't dare a real discussion on, for instance, your bot system - so you raise a smoke screen to avoid having to respond.

Typically, your smoke screen gets extra smokey.
You attribute ridiculous assertions to others.

You know full well that I never said tht IBLs were "the most important factor". That would be a ridiculous thing to say. Any fool knows instinctively that this could not be so. Even the most trivial research on the Net would confirm that this is not so.
Anyone who wants to know how search engines work can search for that information on the Net. The volume of information on the factors, known, unknown and guessed at is very extensive.
Your insinuation that I could not know how things work is just plain crazy. It's just you pumping out propaganda for yourself to believe.


And to use your own style right back at you .....

I did say that you not explaining the 9 things would be taken as an admission that you are a bag of wind. You haven't explained, therefore you admit that you you are a bag of wind - You admit that you made a string of assertions based not on any facts or analysis but on your own need to shout down another. You were avoiding real debate and raising red herrings and smoke screens. Is there any any point in attempting a normal discussion with you?

Lol smoke screens......read the title of this thread again!

"Big Shuffle in the All Search. Will it last?."

What this has to do with Bots.....god knows!

I asked first, so you should be the first to answer. Of course you can't answer because you don't klnow the answer even though you claimed you do. You're all mouth and no brains, Sling.

Those 9 things were examples of you not knowing what you're talking about. So far, you haven't made any attempt to show that you do know what you are talking about concerning those 9 things. All you can manage is your usual waffle and skirting it, hoping that it will go away.

I think your last functional brain cell has given up the ghost. If you can't remember the myriad of discussions about bots that I've had in this forum, then you need a brain transplant. I already described the bots system. Have you asked anything about it? Nope. So what discussion am I avoiding about it? More spew from you, Sling.

There you go then. You really don't have a clue, Sling. You claim knowledge but you have none. I'll requote that in the next post and expand on it there.

Yes they can, but *you* don't know that information and yet you claimed to know. See what I'm saying? You just pump out words that suit what you're writing at the time but they are just so much spew because you don't know what you are talking about much of the time.

No it's not. And I didn't say that you *couldn't* know - I said that I doubt that you could find it. I do know that you *don't* know - you confirmed that 2 quotes above this one - and I strongly doubt that you could even find the information that you claimed to know. All this beating about the bush just keeps the fact that you don't know what you're talking about to the fore. Anyone with knowledge would simply state it when called upon to do so, and avoid the embarrassment. Sadly, that's not an option for you because you don't have the knowledge to state, so you just get lumbered with the embarrassment of being exposed - publically.

Good grief! When you have no answers, shoot the same thing back at the questioner and thus avoid the need to answer LMAO! You're so dumb, Sling. To answer your question: there is no point in attempting a discussion with me if that's all you can contribute.

Well the big shuffle did not last, if that isn't an answer to the OP, nothing is

Furthermore we somehow found out again that miss Sling likes insulting people that use their knowledge of Seach All to get a better ranking. So far nothing new.
A new trend in this kind of threads, is that more and more people seem to disagree with that behavior. That is good to see. Because I have no problem at all with people having another opinion, but I do have a problem with insulting people who think different.

For the rest, all seems said. Whether Sansha is an Alt or not, we probably will never find out for real. For Sling backing up her weird statements with a hint of knowledge, we also could wait forever. So, to use a statement from another forum, this thread probably has outlived its usefulness

This is for Sling, who claimed to know it, but made a false claim, as s/he often does. In fact she thought the opposite. It might be interesting to some other people too.


Why IBLs are so important - how they work
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This is how Google causes IBLs to have the ranking power that they have and, since the All search is a Google search system, it is likely that something like it will be part of the GSA, particularly as experience with Picks shows us that IBLs do have a lot of ranking power.

Google has two indexes - a large one and a small one. They store the words of every page in the large index, plus some data about each word. In the small index they store the words of page Titles and the words in all link texts (the clickable link words). The link text words are stored *for* the pages that the links point to rather than for the pages that they are on.

When a search query is processed, the system first looks in the small index for matches - that's where page Titles and link texts are stored. If it can get enough matched pages from there, it doesn't even look in the large index where all the page content is. It just returns the results from the small index.

That's how page Titles and IBLs are so important and powerful. IBLs are more powerful than page Titles because the small index stores only one title for a page page but can store many IBLs for it.

That's a basic explanation of it. There have no doubt been all sorts of refinements through the years, but not at such a fundamental level as doing away with the small and large indexes, and the way they are used.

Experience with Picks has shown us that Google put the same sort of thinking into the GSA.

And neither did your #1 ranking in the website search. Have a look

Btw, have you removed the old place from search now?

I noticed, as I check that site quite regularly. But lately the results do not match at all with the in-world search though.
As soon as my sim is finished (still busy creating plants ), I will put some more effort in my ranking, because I want to end up at #2, where I used to be a long time ago.

The old place I closed down. After my new place was higher in search then the old one, it hardly generated enough revenue to make up for the rent, so I decided to close down. Surprisingly enough it made me a bit sad, as I have been in that place quite a while. With the estate even longer. But hey, it was time to move on.

You're going the right way about it. You're up to #3 now in-world.

That's because the website search is already being adult filtered.

Just a heads-up that the Search index may see some further disruptions: Try using Search/All to find anything in the wiki. (Not discovered by me; I don't think there's a jira yet but expect one soon.)

although i dont agree with her opinion, sling has not been any more insulting than phil or mickey. its a two way street mate.

as far as sansha the 03/04 mall owner... that will be great to watch

i see web search is filtering. i am hoping there will be a way to bypass the filter for the firefox search plugin, or better yet, the websearch page will be aware of your verification status and search preferences.

That's true as far as I am concerned. I decided to insult Sling without waiting for anything from him/her - just for the fun of it. But don't worry about it - s/he's too stupid to recognise insults

As for personal insults that might be true. As for general insults towards anyone influencing their search result, its not true. Miss Sling tries to insult what she calls 'search-gamers' in every topic remotely referring to search and/or traffic and/or picks.

The website search is open to all, so it will likely only ever return sanitised results from now on.