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Rafe Phoenix
AKA Rafe Zessinthal
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11-20-2009 10:18
That made for a good LOL moment. TY Eli From: Scylla Rhiadra Joan's as good as My Lady in the dark . . . (I love seeing the entrepreneurial spirit at work in SL!!  ) Next she'll be asking for a ghost writer. That's one novel I would take a peek at.
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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11-20-2009 10:22
Thank you for all who also shared your feelings and gave support. I read each word and appreciate them all.
I did not post to try and make anyone feel shame. I just wanted to let people know that for me this felt like hallowed ground being trampled on. It is a subject and place that is too deep for me to befoul with petty bickering. I also tried to make it very clear that it was my feelings to deal with. No one needs to change thier behaviour to please me. I did ask that in a thread, but after consideration realize I feel it is wrong to ask.
I never want a single person to walk away from these forums or be chased away. Heck even the one person I put on ignore, I wouldn't have suggested they leave. I just could not imagine that they would have anything to say I would ever remotely be interested in. My dilemma now is that I may feel forced to put people on ignore whose comments I am interested in. It is my personal dilemma though. Believe me I won't be making a big deal over anyone I decide to mute. I will just quietly do it.
Yes, the original comment made by Rhonda was harsh. Most of my angst is directed at Pep right now though for constintly pushing it back to the fore front. I also think it is wrong for members to try to drive each other away from here. I am not suggesting I want to become part of any lynch mob on either side. If I deem it neccesary, I know where the mute button is, or how to take a break from the forums for a bit. The only reason I added my two cents is that my post was specifically brought into the conversation. I tried hard not to direct my post at any specific party, but just at the general conversation.
I would not take it upon myself to judge anyone's worthiness to be here. It is just not me.
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Rafe Phoenix
AKA Rafe Zessinthal
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11-20-2009 10:22
WOW, lucky woman. Is this related to PGADS? (persistent genital arousal disorder syndrome) Terrible disease that one.
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Rhonda Huntress
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11-20-2009 10:27
From: someone She even had to quit a job in a biscuit factory because the machines kept setting her off. Besides, who says you can only have one man?
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Scylla Rhiadra
Gentle is Human
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11-20-2009 10:27
From: Whimsycallie Pegler Thank you for all who also shared your feelings and gave support. I read each word and appreciate them all.
I did not post to try and make anyone feel shame. I just wanted to let people know that for me this felt like hallowed ground being trampled on. It is a subject and place that is too deep for me to befoul with petty bickering. I also tried to make it very clear that it was my feelings to deal with. No one needs to change thier behaviour to please me. I did ask that in a thread, but after consideration realize I feel it is wrong to ask.
I never want a single person to walk away from these forums or be chased away. Heck even the one person I put on ignore, I wouldn't have suggested they leave. I just could not imagine that they would have anything to say I would ever remotely be interested in. My dilemma now is that I may feel forced to put people on ignore whose comments I am interested in. It is my personal dilemma though. Believe me I won't be making a big deal over anyone I decide to mute. I will just quietly do it.
Yes, the original comment made by Rhonda was harsh. Most of my angst is directed at Pep right now though for constintly pushing it back to the fore front. I also think it is wrong for members to try to drive each other away from here. I am not suggesting I want to become part of any lynch mob on either side. If I deem it neccesary, I know where the mute button is, or how to take a break from the forums for a bit. The only reason I added my two cents is that my post was specifically brought into the conversation. I tried hard not to direct my post at any specific party, but just at the general conversation.
I would not take it upon myself to judge anyone's worthiness to be here. It is just not me. Whimsy, this is gracious, and kind, and caring. I wish I could speak as eloquently about all of this . . . but I've allowed myself too often to get caught up in it. To you, and to others who've shared their experiences of this disease, I can only offer my love and hope that you too heal. And thank you, in particular, for bringing some perspective to this.
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Rafe Phoenix
AKA Rafe Zessinthal
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11-20-2009 10:29
From: Whimsycallie Pegler Thank you for all who also shared your feelings and gave support. I read each word and appreciate them all.
I did not post to try and make anyone feel shame. I just wanted to let people know that for me this felt like hallowed ground being trampled on. It is a subject and place that is too deep for me to befoul with petty bickering. I also tried to make it very clear that it was my feelings to deal with. No one needs to change thier behaviour to please me. I did ask that in a thread, but after consideration realize I feel it is wrong to ask.
I never want a single person to walk away from these forums or be chased away. Heck even the one person I put on ignore, I wouldn't have suggested they leave. I just could not imagine that they would have anything to say I would ever remotely be interested in. My dilemma now is that I may feel forced to put people on ignore whose comments I am interested in. It is my personal dilemma though. Believe me I won't be making a big deal over anyone I decide to mute. I will just quietly do it.
Yes, the original comment made by Rhonda was harsh. Most of my angst is directed at Pep right now though for constintly pushing it back to the fore front. I also think it is wrong for members to try to drive each other away from here. I am not suggesting I want to become part of any lynch mob on either side. If I deem it neccesary, I know where the mute button is, or how to take a break from the forums for a bit. The only reason I added my two cents is that my post was specifically brought into the conversation. I tried hard not to direct my post at any specific party, but just at the general conversation.
I would not take it upon myself to judge anyone's worthiness to be here. It is just not me. HUGGERS..... No worries. Its just the way it was going to go from the beginning. The need to be right is more important than other people's feelings for some. We were openly sharing life's roller coaster and someone decided that they would benefit by alluding to it. I wont allow my posts to be used as a tool against someone else. Flame me all you want but leave others out of it. We know you meant no harm. Its over and done with, we're eating chocolate lava cake if ya want some.
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Rafe Phoenix
AKA Rafe Zessinthal
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11-20-2009 10:33
From: Rhonda Huntress Besides, who says you can only have one man? Angel only gets one because I only get one girl. *waves* Hope all is well in Huntress land.
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Love Hastings
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11-20-2009 10:33
From: Rafe Phoenix HUGGERS.....
No worries. Its just the way it was going to go from the beginning. The need to be right is more important than other people's feelings for some. We were openly sharing life's roller coaster and someone decided that they would benefit by alluding to it. I wont allow my posts to be used as a tool against someone else. Flame me all you want but leave others out of it.
I am overjoyed that you both called him on that.
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Joshooah Lovenkraft
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11-20-2009 10:34
From: Rafe Phoenix  Parents>Husband>Roomie>John> Its all the same . Rafe, you forgot stylist in that mix. /119/bd/349976/1.html"were" style matters!
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Love Hastings
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11-20-2009 10:34
From: Nika Talaj ... and I'm astonished to see you, so insistent that others are overemotional, overreacting in this way. It appears that Rhonda has done to him what he tries so hard to do to others. Found a button to push: From: Pserendipity Daniels Pep (I am still unable to work out what to say to my 25 year old SL friend who has been told that she has less than a year to live.)
There is a slight hope that he has some humanity left after all.
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Treasure Ballinger
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11-20-2009 10:37
From: Maureen Boccaccio /me bounces with excitement, in anticipation of today's lunch with Lindal.  Kaimi and I are next ones to bounce in excitement at having lunch with Mo!! Coming up in couple weeks! 
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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11-20-2009 10:38
From: Rafe Phoenix HUGGERS.....
No worries. Its just the way it was going to go from the beginning. The need to be right is more important than other people's feelings for some. We were openly sharing life's roller coaster and someone decided that they would benefit by alluding to it. I wont allow my posts to be used as a tool against someone else. Flame me all you want but leave others out of it.
We know you meant no harm. Its over and done with, we're eating chocolate lava cake if ya want some. Yes, I will have a piece of that cake. Thank you.
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Rafe Phoenix
AKA Rafe Zessinthal
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11-20-2009 10:40
From: Love Hastings I am overjoyed that you both called him on that.  LOL I was not going to add any more to this BUT..... The only reason I've not confronted the guy before is in the past he never really came at me like that. He has a bad habit and my answer is... Don't piss on my boots and tell me its raining.
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Rafe Phoenix
AKA Rafe Zessinthal
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11-20-2009 10:42
From: Joshooah Lovenkraft Rafe, you forgot stylist in that mix. /119/bd/349976/1.html"were" style matters! lol
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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11-20-2009 10:44
From: Love Hastings It appears that Rhonda has done to him what he tries so hard to do to others. Found a button to push:
There is a slight hope that he has some humanity left after all. I think your side should lay off too. There is definately humanity there, and humor, and intelligence. Also, one sharp, wicked, ego slicing tongue. If you look at what he mostly pricks though it is peoples ego and vanity. I know it can sting to have your ego hurt, especailly if your new or insecure. I hate to see it when it happens. It is certainly not my way, but I think people have lost perspective. I hate the war zone. Goes back to eating cake.
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Rafe Phoenix
AKA Rafe Zessinthal
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11-20-2009 10:51
From: Whimsycallie Pegler I think your side should lay off too. There is definately humanity there, and humor, and intelligence. Also, one sharp, wicked, ego slicing tongue. If you look at what he mostly pricks though it is peoples ego and vanity.
I know it can sting to have your ego hurt, especailly if your new or insecure. I hate to see it when it happens. It is certainly not my way, but I think people have lost perspective. I hate the war zone.
Goes back to eating cake. LOL HUGGERS You're getting crumbs on your shirt dear. I like Pep when he's using his great sense of humor in a restrained manor. Its when the new people are subjected to that warm Pep welcome that he looses points. That doesn't matter though, my opinion about him means squat.
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Love Hastings
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11-20-2009 10:52
From: Whimsycallie Pegler I think your side should lay off too. I have no side (except my own). I can and will lay off when he stops trolling, hurting people for his own amusement, and driving people away from *our* community. When he stops lying, twisting words, and attacking people needlessly. Think there's much chance of that?
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Rhonda Huntress
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11-20-2009 10:53
From: Rafe Phoenix Angel only gets one because I only get one girl.
*waves* Hope all is well in Huntress land. I got two men and one girl. Things are very well in Huntress land 
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Treasure Ballinger
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11-20-2009 10:55
From: 3Ring Binder *hugs*
i'm gonna tell something private here.... i have lost two of the very most important people in my life to cancer. one 15 years ago, one 8 years ago. the first was my adopted mother figure, who i was unable to visit in her last months because i simply could not deal with losing her. she didn't remember me by that time anyway. she died from second hand smoke. she had lung cancer,beat it for 10 years, then it resurfaced in her brain. it was an ugly, slow and painful death for her. i cannot imagine it. she was 56. the second was my Pa. not my real Pa, but my FIL. he smoked for most of his adult, developed lung cancer and had one lung removed. he was always my card partner, and i nicknamed him "one lung". i loved that man so much. no greater man has walked these lands. well, he beat it for about 4 years and then it resurfaced in his liver, which then spread all throughout. i was there the day he died. i stroked his hair after he was gone. i spoke to him and held the door for the coroners when they wheeled him out of the home.
i know about death. i know about cancer. it's brutal.
but you know, we all handle things differently in life. and that has a lot to do with our upbringing. i can take a lot. even when it hurts real bad. depending on who you are in my life at any particular time, you might be the one who experiences my emotions when they affect me. my divorce, for example. a couple of people have walked me through it, and it has not been easy. i cry. who'd a thunk. not me, that's for sure.
but so what. i'll be the first one to make jokes about divorce and death and cancer... because if you can't laugh at life and all it offers, then you are dark inside. i handle things the way i do because that is how i learned to handle them. it is not personal to anyone else. it is personal to me. and laughter IS the best medicine. heck, being fat in this world is probably one of the hardest things to deal with in public. yet, deep down it is heartwrenching for those who are obese... and still, we make jokes about it. you learn to laugh at it, because what other choice is there? i mean really, these are all parts of life.
so, when you see others commenting, perhaps remove your shoes and step into theirs. we all have different defense mechanisms, and we all come from a different perspective. this is not asking someone to have a thick skin, but to instead try to understand that maybe they come from a different place.
on the other hand,the person commenting can also stop and think that maybe their words might affect someone, so there is some responsibility there too, of course. compassion is everything.
but if you see something that strikes a chord in you, try a little harder to figure out that maybe it's not meant to be personal to YOU. in fact, it'd be a pretty safe bet to assume it's not about YOU at all. Thanks 3. Everything you say here is right, as far as 'comparable' life/health/medical tragedies go, and I'm not making light of any of those. Each person (I think) has a tendency to react to what's been horrible for them, in their life's journey. I haven't had a horrible walk with obesity, but can feel compassion for someone who has. But my walk with cancer is personal *to me* and yes, I was shocked at what Rhonda said to Pep. Now, admittedly, if that had been the end of it, I might have been able to justify (to myself) she was angry, it was heat of the moment, she went off, happens to all of us on occasion. God knows if no one ever forgave me for a 'bad mouth moment' there would be no one around in the world, to love me today. I totally get that. I think it was her crystal clear clarification, later, of exactly what she meant, that just pushed me over to 'ugh'. Like, just in case there was any misunderstanding the first time. Again I have to point out that it wasn't even because it was Pep, it was because it was directed at a human being (yes Pep is a human being, people) that it shocked and upset me. It's just something I can't blow off. I think of my 2nd sis in law to die, started as breast cancer, went to the brain. You could see the tumor pushing out her forehead, like a horn. Was just so horrible. There are some people in this world that I just don't get, just cannot stand to be around. People I really, really even dislike. There is *no one*, even in that category that I'd wish that kind of death on. To me, it would say something about me, not about them, to do that. With all that said, two points. Rhonda and I are civil to one another, there is no angst going on between us, we have talked about minor things, and I have chatted some with Clover too on group chat. There's no insult hurling, or me berating her for what she said to Pep. It's on her, not me. Secondly, I don't think that I can help taking it personally and that too isn't particular to Rhonda. That part is indeed on me, and reflects back to my own personal journey. I try to tell myself 'get over it' and that doesn't seem to be working. I do wish I could be more like you in this area, and see/accept this internet forum for what it is. Which is, people I don't know in RL, chatting about a common interest. I sincerely wish I could do that, indeed. Can I try harder not to respond in the forums? Sure, and I will. Whimsy's post moved me to response today, I think I"ve done pretty good lately about not responding to it.
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Whimsycallie Pegler
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11-20-2009 11:02
*offers Treasure a piece of cake with a bit of a sad smile*
I appreciate everyone who still comes and hangs out and posts in the hard times. Want a piece of cake? What about you 3ring? Did you get cake?
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Rhonda Huntress
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11-20-2009 11:05
From: Whimsycallie Pegler I think your side should lay off too. There is definately humanity there, and humor, and intelligence. Also, one sharp, wicked, ego slicing tongue. If you look at what he mostly pricks though it is peoples ego and vanity.
I know it can sting to have your ego hurt, especailly if your new or insecure. I hate to see it when it happens. It is certainly not my way, but I think people have lost perspective. I hate the war zone.
Goes back to eating cake. I do not give a fleas ass in hell over what he says about me. Never have; never will. What pisses me off now is you know as well as everyone else that the claims it is over what he said about my avatar's thighs is a lie. I would say he got it wrong but that would imply an error. He knows the truth and chooses the lie. He repeats lie. he clims the lie in ever thread and with every reply. He lies and he lies and he lies. The fact that he never mentioned my thighs until AFTER I said "to bad it was not you, Pep" is clear for everyone to see. Yet he lies and he repeats the lies and he says the lies again. So much so that eventually, you believe him. That psiies me pff. How could you believe those lies when they are said by a proven liar and the very lie he claims is proven to be a lie. But he said it 20 times a day ..... Once more, with feeling. I do not give a fleas ass in hell over what he says about me. Never have; never will. Do not believe his lies.
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Rhonda Huntress
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11-20-2009 11:06
Any way ....
I'm gone for a week.
See yall on the flip side.
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Brann Georgia
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And now for something completely different
11-20-2009 11:07
 Cat looks worried, methinks.
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Brenda Connolly
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11-20-2009 11:15
This whole drama has poisoned this thread, beyond any recovery, as far as I am concerned. There are no victims or villains, just a bunch of people who decided they had to be right, to have the last word, and to get in one more shot. Myself included on occasion. Several times I've found myself wanting to say things to people that I do have regard for that I know I would deeply regret afterwards, and I've decided to walk away from the thread for a while. But because of my regard for them in various ways, and this includes Pep, I have always come back But I don't think I can any more. It has gone beyond any sort of internet game of one upmanship and "No, You." It's become, vile, bitter and cruel, with both sides wanting to do nothing but hurt the other. it saddens me and sickens me that the same people who put so much into building a little home in this forum have found it so easy to tear it down. The finger of blame can be pointed soley at ourselves. I wont say I'm not coming back, we know how that always works. But right now, I don't see anything left here for me to come back to. 
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3Ring Binder
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11-20-2009 11:24
what is THE common denominator, Brenda? just sayin' 
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