The new neighbors...
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Jacquelin Seisenbacher
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02-21-2008 08:11
If the recieving end of the sex act can't conscent, then it's wrong. (and yes, that is assuming that it is some sort of animal, human or otherwise. I am not infering that vegetation can be raped). Depiction of this in pixels is not much better than in any other way, and in some ways worse, to my mind. Since, it validates the act on a simpler level. Either way, both sides of this argument have been being rediculously unhelpful to Mari, and very childish, so here goes... The situation you have, Mari, is not much different from being spammed by a notecard giver, or lucky chair. You have text/content that is crossing the boundry between your plots. The only difference is that your neighbors may well be a bit touchy about whether they are being attacked for their preferences, so, like a number of other folks here said, send a polite IM first to see if they will please use private chat, or some other method so that they can have privacy. If they are rude, mute/ban the individual people. Honestly, I think ban lines are not the way to go, try individual bans first.  You would certainly have a lot stronger footing if you were in a private sim, you would generally have a covenant to refer to, and have a sim owner you could go to for support. From what I've seen, many of these types of places don't last long. They have a bunch of traffic for a while, they're an eyesore, and then they die. They can't turn a profit, and it becomes not wourth it to the owner. So, it may just be a matter of waiting it out. But, I would very seriously reconsider buying in a mature sim on the mainland in general, because so many of the neighbors, like yours, are really not conscientious of who is around them. Good luck!
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Colette Meiji
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02-21-2008 08:12
From: Phil Deakins [here he goes again] OMG Phil get over being mad at me over the temp rezzer and the dam camper zombies already. Take some friggin ludes already.
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Marianne McCann
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02-21-2008 08:12
From: 3Ring Binder hopefully the neighbors will hide their acts by limiting them to indoor locations, and move to the far side to keep exposure to a minimum. That is not their plan, no. Mari
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Chris Norse
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02-21-2008 08:17
From: Colette Meiji I think at the point Mari describes I would just put up screens so I didn't have to see their sex stuff and I'd just mute everyone in their group. This is how I dealt with the Italian Vampires who infested one sim I had a home in. It wouldn't have been too bad, I had enough land to buffer chat, but they insisted on using shout for all of their conversations.
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Chris Norse
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02-21-2008 08:19
From: Broccoli Curry But that's not the issue is it?
If someone wants to partake in these activities on their own land, at present, they can.
Even with the "adult" parcel labelling active, there doesn't appear to be any way to block out that content from unverified or non-willing neighbours.
It's the fact it can be heard OUTSIDE of their property that is the bigger problem here, and one that they do not seem to understand or want to respect the rights of others that don't want to hear it. It is called the mute button and it works.
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Cristalle Karami
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02-21-2008 08:21
Mari, my friend Buckaroo Mu makes a script that ejects people from hopping onto club stages. Maybe you could use the script for your back yard, so that anyone not in your family group gets bounced off your items.
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Colette Meiji
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02-21-2008 08:23
From: Pie Psaltery And before anyone asks, yes, I do now live on top if a mountain.
Well .. you are right the courtesy should go both ways ... Mari's kid play shouldn't spam her neighbors when they are home either. We of course don't know that it does, its never mentioned here. She might take play to IMs whenever neighbors are in earshot. While you are loud during orgasm, thats a relatively short period of time unless you are super human. Mari would be getting the foreplay, middle play, orgasms and resolution. Of more than one couple even by the sounds of things. In fact it would be like having no wall between apartments at all, since in SL Text sound carries at "full volume" for 20M. It is part of being a good neighbor not to spam out your neighbor. If you'd rather not worry about it ever- move somewhere where no one will hear you. Such as you did IRL (although I'm sure that wasn't the reason lol) Again I don't think any of this should be enforced by Linden Labs at all. Just a comment on respect for the people you live by.
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Jacquelin Seisenbacher
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02-21-2008 08:25
Well, give it a couple of weeks Mari, maybe they'll get bored. meanwhile, mute and ban those you feel you need to. But I would strongly suggest again, that if they are there for the long haul, you may want to move, as Desmond suggested. There are some incredible private sims out there, and it would have a covenant and sim owner to back you up in a case like this. Try checking out the Winterfell sims, or play around in the Caledon sims (very kid friendly, we love good urchines), the Languedoc sim just opened, and it is also very kid friendly, it's a baroque sim (you can IM me if you want a costume  ). There is also a new sim called New Toulouse opening up, and I know the group there is very open and really creative. There are so many more that just aren't coming to mind at the moment. but they're out there, and they don't have obnoxious neighbors. If you buy land on a private sim, of course, make sure it is from oneof the reputable owners, but you can make your place exactly as it is on the mainland  But you'll also get that extra layer of protection from people who insist on being obnoxious, and a whole new set of folks who you can rp with  Best of luck!
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Phil Deakins
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02-21-2008 08:28
From: Colette Meiji OMG Phil get over being mad at me over the temp rezzer and the dam camper zombies already. I was never mad with you at all, over anything - not even about this. I didn't bring it up again, so don't blame me. Or didn't you read my post? You're not very good at remembering what you read, are you 
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Colette Meiji
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02-21-2008 08:34
From: Phil Deakins I was never mad with you at all, over anything - not even about this. I didn't bring it up again, so don't blame me. Or didn't you read my post  Ohh sure, whatever .. 
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Dekka Raymaker
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02-21-2008 08:36
From: Phil Deakins I was never mad with you at all, over anything - not even about this. I didn't bring it up again, so don't blame me. Or didn't you read my post? You're not very good at remembering what you read, are you  That's my problem too, I never remember what anyone else posts here and more insanely what I post either, some days I come and think "did I post that?"
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Dekka Raymaker
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02-21-2008 08:37
From: Dekka Raymaker That's my problem too, I never remember what anyone else posts here and more insanely what I post either, some days I come and think "did I post that?" OMG did I post that?
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Storm Thunders
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02-21-2008 08:38
If you're staying, I suggest you take the house or whatever and put it on a floating island, 150M or more above the ground. In a mannerly world they'd move their sex-zoo seeing as you were there first. You tried the reasonable thing. Under the current ToS you're stuck with moving, tolerating their chat and noise, or learning how many things your ignore list can hold. 
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Colette Meiji
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02-21-2008 08:41
From: Phil Deakins You're not very good at remembering what you read, are you   I remember this post. From: Phil Deakins There are some really stupid people in this forum, who talk a load of utter crap. It means that questions about certain topics can't be asked here because they have no interest in offering anything useful or contructive. Instead they sidetrack threads with shit like that.
That's also a response to Colette's post.
I'll follow Jig out of this place. Bye.
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Lana Tomba
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02-21-2008 08:46
well it depends really on what type of personality you are..I don't revel playing hard ball..but i can do it. Id rather go buy a huge VR room and texture the outside with HUGE pscycodelic daisies from the 60s...that were animated...and blinked...rather than move...but that's just me...(we are talking about a 40 x 40 x 40 box  ) I am always a willing volunteer on the education of people on objectiveness .If they dont understand kindness maybe they'd understand a large toon sticking its tongue out at them constantly..or boxes positioned near their sim line that spammed sounds...or better yet...large pictures of Jesus reading to the little children(whatever irks them  ) ~Lana Tomba
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Broccoli Curry
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02-21-2008 08:49
From: Chris Norse It is called the mute button and it works. Not so easy though in this case. To "Mute" an item, you have to find it - then click on it and mute it. Can you imagine the potential problems for Mari, as a kid avatar, being seen flying round an obvious sex area clicking on stuff?
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Chris Norse
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02-21-2008 08:50
Mari, Make some large signs with these quotes on them.  Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. -- Exodus 22:19 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast. -- Leviticus 20:15 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. -- Leviticus 20:16 Then go over and ask if they want to know the way to heaven. Edit: Maybe you could get Jezebell to put on her angel costume and go next door with you.
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Nika Talaj
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02-21-2008 08:53
From: Colette Meiji Its not normally a problem. Most people don't want to be heard or seen having cyber-sex.
Even "exhibitionists" in SL usually only want able to be peeked at and maybe a couple overheard *moans* at most. Colette, with all due respect I think you may be outside your area of expertise here  There are folks in several sexually-oriented communities who feel that 'scenes' should be enacted publicly (i.e., in chat), for the "enjoyment" of all. Think of it as a form of performance art. From: 3Ring Binder you're right Colette. this boils down to common courtesy and respect for your fellow 'man'. hopefully the neighbors will hide their acts by limiting them to indoor locations, and move to the far side to keep exposure to a minimum. ?? It is really not these folks' fault that LL's parcel management scheme allows spill-over from one parcel to the next. It was certainly worth it for Mari to ask them if they could adjust things, but as I suggested earlier it would have been courteous to offer to do so as well, in return (both parties move 10m away from the border). But, these folks pay for all their m2, and are within their rights to use it as they wish. There seems to be some assumption in this thread that their activities are less "worthy", and thus should be suppressed. Tho I personally find bestiality distasteful, I think they have every bit as much right as Mari to do what they want with their land. From: Marianne McCann This too shall pass. :-/ The most rational words on this thread. Good luck, hon.
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Rioko Bamaisin
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02-21-2008 08:53
LOL Chris.Best idea on this thread yet.. Broccoli,why would she have to fly anywhere? She could just cam over and do it.  I would just put up a security orb and mute the neighbors(and follow Chris's advice,lol).Good luck Mari.
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Phil Deakins
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02-21-2008 08:56
From: Dekka Raymaker That's my problem too, I never remember what anyone else posts here and more insanely what I post either, some days I come and think "did I post that?" I'm different. I tend to rememeber what's said/written, but I'm near hopeless at remembering who said or wrote them.
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Colette Meiji
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02-21-2008 08:57
From: Nika Talaj Colette, with all due respect I think you may be outside your area of expertise here  There are folks in several sexually-oriented communities who feel that 'scenes' should be enacted publicly (i.e., in chat), for the "enjoyment" of all. Think of it as a form of performance art. . I wasn't saying there aren't people who like to "perform" But I hardly think they would be a majority of exhibitionists, and certainly not a majority of people.
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Isabeau Imako
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02-21-2008 08:58
From: Lana Tomba well it depends really on what type of personality you are..I don't revel playing hard ball..but i can do it. Id rather go buy a huge VR room and texture the outside with HUGE pscycodelic daisies from the 60s...that were animated...and blinked...rather than move...but that's just me...(we are talking about a 40 x 40 x 40 box  ) I am always a willing volunteer on the education of people on objectiveness .If they dont understand kindness maybe they'd understand a large toon sticking its tongue out at them constantly..or boxes positioned near their sim line that spammed sounds...or better yet...large pictures of Jesus reading to the little children(whatever irks them  ) ~Lana Tomba But then, all you're doing is lowering yourself to their level. I can't for the life of me understand people who insist on being rude. You want to be a sicko animal-f**ker on your land? Go ahead - your land, your ways - but Mari was kind enough to try and come to a neighbourly understanding and was ignored. Sl is home to all sorts (just as in RL), the worst thing for Mari to do would be to let these people 'change' her into becoming the same kind of low-lifes. I feel for you Mari, but for the moment, the only thing I feel you can do is put up a wall and mute those you can hear.
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Cristalle Karami
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02-21-2008 08:58
From: Colette Meiji I wasn't saying there aren't people who like to "perform"
But I hardly think they would be a majority of exhibitionists, and certainly not a majority of people. I would agree. Of the people who own small parcels for residential housing, most want more privacy, not less.
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Kira Cuddihy
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02-21-2008 08:59
From: Broccoli Curry Not so easy though in this case. To "Mute" an item, you have to find it - then click on it and mute it. Can you imagine the potential problems for Mari, as a kid avatar, being seen flying round an obvious sex area clicking on stuff? She could just zoom, no need to leave the privacy of her home.
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Yumi Murakami
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02-21-2008 08:59
I remember, only a little while after I arrived in SL, a Gorean complaining that a neighbour had put up a sign on their parcel, floating above the walls of the castle, reading "Men died to fight slavery - Jump the wall to freedom"...
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