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or you can check axmar's online shop he offer a neat selection of stainless steel collar that never open again unless destroyed ^_^

Yes!

yes she has!!!

Not quite that simple or that easy. Sure, unplug and walk away. But what if you're an established business owner? Just "walking away" from a business isn't such a great thing. You shouldn't have to forfeit that just to get away from a creep.

As to having fun - why is the "can't remove" part of it necessary? Where does trust enter the picture?

Personally, I don't see how you're being prevented from doing anything.

I'll see what I can do about getting the lot of you a brand new filthy blanket.

I would Never name names here my baby, but Thank you for Confirming my words.

Mistress.

At the point of that final "stumble" and the collaring, she could have said no and walked away from the relationship. That she didn't is telling of the "Time, Trust and Familiarity".

If there was no "walk away" within SL, it would amount to the RL equivalent of kidnapping and detainment against will. While a few might want to play such a game, most in SL probably do not.

In my experience, all D/s relationships are just that - relationships. The act of submission is a gift on the part of the submissive - and the wise Dom/me knows when to accept a precious gift and when to be be cautious. I have several friends who initally offered themselves as willing to do anything and be my slave, but upon further exploration it became clear this was not really what that person wanted. Jumping to the collar in those instances would likely have resulted in needless drama. I'd rather have a friend than a submissive that rebels and runs and never wants to see me again. As I learned from one dear girl, "The Dom/me makes the sub, and the sub makes the Dom/me". It is a symbiotic relationship.

Well, she's spoken here herself, Ask her if she could have just walked away. But, you are essentially correct the ONLY ties that truely Bind her to me are emotional ones, But as Many can tell you those ties can be stronger than any steel.

I Also agree with you that the relationship is Symbiotic, and Most definatley SHOULD be so. I have said from the Start On Line,(And i am frequently quoted if not credited) We (Dominant, and submissive)Each feed a Need in the other We are two halves of the Same Coin.
Done well, Done correctly, the relationship between Dom/me and sub is a Very positive one for BOTH. Done Badly, it can be Both unpleasant, and Harmful. That's one of the reasons i Dislike seeing it played as a game. My feelings towards the Game Players is Probably Biased, I admit that. i have a certain amount of "Professional Pride" in what i do and Maybe it makes me Judgemental of them. In RL, i've Witnessed Bad relationships and thier consequences and If i seem Hard on Game Players, it's perhaps that i Don't want to see people Hurt like i Know they Can be.
I accept they are Adults (At least i Hope all of them are) and i accept they are Making thier own Choices, But accepting it doesn't mean i am Completely comfortable with the Idea.
Well, a Lot of people aren't comfortable with what I do either, so Fair is Fair i suppose.

Angel.

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What a wonderfully long, detailed, varied and delightful conversation that abrupted from a mere question about collars. I happened on the question myself as I have a collar for my Pet tho not knowing anything about Gorean society. Since then I have read a bit about it in SL as well as online. I am a "Mistress" to my Manticore.... and our -play- is safe, sane and consentual (however I do not think most people would understand?) And it all just rather happened... over the course of time. We sort of fell into it and are very happy with our positions.

I thought about visiting Gorean SL places.... as an observer, but am now having second thoughts. I prefer my SL play to be kept SL play. I am finding all along the way new things about myself that I would never dream of myself in RL (and finiding it quite enjoying). I do not think I would fit into Gorean society as a female Dom over an slave/amimal. I have a theory why I prefer my wonderful Manticore over human males...but that's some PhD topic probably and one I understand but don't typically share. Perhaps it is the survivor female urge for certain men to be beaten within an inch of their lives just because they deserve it for their wrongful doings...and then toyed with....(I will not apologize for that statement due to the fact that I said CERTAIN men and not all). I do not Dom human males (at least in SL) and have found in conversation as well as reading that human male Doms in Gorean society do infact care very deeply...emotionally for thier slaves. (I do not like the word slave and prefer my Pet names...)

I find the Gorean socity a bit odd and yet stragely interesting at the same time. Odd because I do not understand why a woman would even want to submit to a male. Odd because (and correct me if I am wrong) it seems as if the human males are... how do I put this??? rather passive...fragile...or is it....too gentle? I don't know and am only assuming this from the emotional attachment a Master has for his slaves....Much confusion which renders the strange interest...maybe I will have to read more, (some well versed posters here BTW )and visit one or two Gorean places a few times (my neighboor suggested I would make a good Panther...?) But I am unsure if I would find any pleasure in having to sub to a human male. (I probably wouldn't and would have to be beaten and run away) And that is all that is out there aside from Vampires..... no thank you. (Dead human males is even less attractive than fighting live ones!!!)

Yes I am attached to my Manticore.... Yes there is a deep bond. I brush his wonderfully wild mane and bathe him.... hunt with him when he feeds. We are at a point where I can release him from his leash and I allow him to roam freely to feed as well, as long as he only feeds on four legged creatures, non human, non newb (lol) and no furries. Our play is not too overbearing... I unleash him at night, say our fond goodbyes and if he is about another day...request his presence if the mood strikes me. The being apart in between makes for a very special reunion. And our RP falls naturally....No pressures, no hassles, we have fun, enjoy one anothers company, I curtail him when needed, spoil him as I determine and demand what I please. No, I didn't "force" him to wear the collar... (he feels lost without it poor Pet) we both derived it would be enjoyable and since have had quite a lot of fun. Yes we play acted and I fought him (found him raining acid down upon a helpless village somewhere, his roars echoing down like thunder from atop a castle wall). I tracked him, took a few beatings and put in my own... to find him extremely curious of a human female....

In the end, SL RP should be about fun. Again the safe, sane and consentual fun. I am a aggresive female in RL and find SL a satisifying outlet for this side to me I knew was there but was trampled... and has grown quite nicely since my freedoms..... RL and SL freedoms alike. Be wary where you hunt or if you are a timid adventurer....then perhaps do not travel at all. Read the warning signs clearly marked at entrance locations. Then venture, roam explore and go wild....

No pain can match the hell I've already been thru.

And armed with that.....the hunt continues....

To understand the Gorean world better I would suggest to read books about Gor written by John Norman. It is an complex society, but at the same time very interesting.

I am a bystander when it comes to the Domme/sub lifestyle, but that doesn't mean I am not interested to understand (specially when a close RL friend is involved).

Anyway, these are the books written by John Norman:

* 1 : Tarnsman of Gor (1966) by John Norman
* 2 : Outlaw of Gor (1967) by John Norman
* 3 : Priest Kings of Gor (196 by John Norman
* 4 : Nomads of Gor (1969) by John Norman
* 5 : Assassin of Gor, the (1970) by John Norman
* 6 : Raiders of Gor (1971) by John Norman
* 7 : Captive of Gor (1972) by John Norman
* 8 : Hunters of Gor (1974) by John Norman
* 9 : Marauders of Gor (1975) by John Norman
* 10 : Tribesmen of Gor (1976) by John Norman
* 11 : Slave Girl of Gor (1977) by John Norman
* 12 : Beasts of Gor (197 by John Norman
* 13 : Explorers of Gor (1979) by John Norman
* 14 : Fighting Slave of Gor (1980) by John Norman
* 15 : Rogue of Gor (1981) by John Norman
* 16 : Guardsman of Gor (1981) by John Norman
* 17 : Savages of Gor (1982) by John Norman
* 18 : Blood Brothers of Gor (1982) by John Norman
* 19 : Kajira of Gor (1983) by John Norman
* 20 : Players of Gor (1984) by John Norman
* 21 : Mercenaries of Gor (1985) by John Norman
* 22 : Dancer of Gor (1985) by John Norman
* 23 : Renegades of Gor (1986) by John Norman
* 24 : Vagabonds of Gor (1987) by John Norman
* 25 : Magicians of Gor (1987) by John Norman
* 26 : Witness of Gor (2002) by John Norman

Enjoy,
Morwen.

YOu forgot "Wizard of Gor"!!
Just teasing- it's an old video game. Had ZERO to do with the books, I think?

To me, Gor= Bore. Just not my cup o' tea. Pixel Sex just aint that exciting. Might as well yank it to Laura Croft.

Don't forget that classic, "Houseplants of Gor" (google it). And I think there's one called "Gay bejewelled Bikers of Gor".

...so The Human Tripod is RL?

Pixel sex is like SL .. it is what you make it. Some people say watching a steam train go past is better than sex ... is someone doing something wrong?

edit: Not enough said. It isn't about the animations. They're wallpaper for the social interaction and sharing in IM .. or chat for some!
One of the best 'encounters' I've had in SL was sitting on a bar stool about three feet away from my partner!!!

Ok well i`m submissive and I explore that side of myself pretty much online, mainly because my r/l situation does not allow me to explore it in the way I would like. I don`t like to label myself as being as part of a lifestyle. I`m just who I am, I don`t view my submissive side as anything to be ashamed of and to me its quite normal and i`ve been exploring it in this way for around 10 years

I used to do a lot in IRC, and through IRC I met my Mistress, who I have now been with for the last 5 years. There are obviously differences in what can and can`t be done between r/l and online. some posters here mentioned they saw no point to scripted collars as the sub could quite easily be away from k/b as they also could when being spanked or punished in any other way online.

However speaking as a sub who wears a scripted collar which is something that is very special to me and something I take very seriously. A trust builds up between a sub and a Domme and without that trust a relationship would never last, so when i`m online with my Mistress I treat it very much in the same way as if i was in the same room with her. The collar allows for a much greater sense of this control that my submissive side desires, just as before 2nd life my IRC name had a collar in brackets after it. That collar felt as real to me as any actual collar in r/l.

As for can someone force you to wear a collar, the answer is very simple No they can`t. A D/s relationship is about trust and love, but everything that is done is 100% consensual between both people. Any Dom/me that resorts to force to get something to happen is either very inexperienced or if experienced someone I would avoid like the plague.

During my time as an online submissive I have met many people, some assume that its very easy to be Dom/me that all it takes is to command a submissive to their will. I`ve heard it all before, "But your a submissive , you have to do what I say" or "But I have Master in my name so obey what I tell you to do" and the list goes on.

Just as there are hundreds of fake Dom/mes online and just as many fake subs, there are those of us that are real, and we have relationships online that are as real as any r/l relationship and can go just as deep in an emotional way we just decide to explore it in a different way.

It is both pretend and role play

In addition generally only happens in places where they warn you in advance are role play areas.

No one can force a collar on you for any reason in SL.

they might ban you from their sim if you refuse - but youd be better off being banned form a place where they try to coerce you into things.

you can not seriously be suggesting Liden Labs sets up the ability to Actually Force other residents to do things?

In socliotron it is posible for your avatar to be raped - you cant possibly think that Linden labs would institute that ability into SL.

Second Life isnt a sex (forced or otherwise) simulator anyway - thats all player content.

If actual online rape and force collaring that players would be unable to to avoid is mandatory for some people's enjoyment - they should go somewhere else.

I thought BDSM was about voluntary power transfer.

If its voluntary how can it be domination? *winks, and spanks Collette for old times sake*

*yelps*

hey your the one with the answers

It most definitely voluntary or else no one would get themselves in that situation.

Theyd avoid force collar areas like the plague and never go out looking for Masters and Mistresses.

I was being cute. My point is simply that BDSM is not about domination, as a person aquiesces to being dominated. Thus BDSM is about submission and aquiesence.

But more to the point, in SL people cannot make you do anything, except leave their land.

well thats the problem, that guy up there ^^^^^^^ a few posts ago - wants to change that 0.o.

He scatters it all with "unfortunately"

If people think theres grief now - imagine what it would be like if it was possible to be forced into things - even if it was only in certain sims.

PS didnt mean to think you were being anything but sarcastic - well cept for the spanking part *winks*

Colette is quite right, SL Isn't Formatted on Removing ones right to Choose. a system of Forcable confinement in SL Really would only appeal to, and be used by, the wrong sort of people. Those Mentally, and Emotionally Unsuited to act as Dominants in the first place. If Force, and Violence is the Only way One can Hold a slave, One Isn't fit to call ones self Master/Mistress. If however, you can let go of the leash confident that when you choose to reach for it again, your slave is exactly where you left them, Then you are Worthy. Your slave is so completely yours that they cannot conceive of being anywhere other than at your feet. If ones slave is always trying to escape, then you have dominated Nothing at all. You have Failed.

Angel.

Ummm - first of all, isn't this the Groucho Marx definition? If you want to be dominant, you shouldn't but if you simply ARE dominant, then that's OK? Can't see that this is especially detectible/enforceable in any way.

Secondly (and with a more serious slant), I just don't get this idea that once you have collared someone, that's it, Game over. If yo uare dominant inna first place, and you end up stuck with some droopy-drawers type who never fights back, what are you dominating? You might as well "dominate" your office chair. Straight relatinships have "break up to make up" themes to them - again, I see no purpose to declaring this "not what proper dominants do"...

(unless of course you are so dom you can't have a conversation without laying down the law, irrespective of whether it's a good fit or the right point or what-have-you)

(PS: very very sorry but whenever I see someone actually use the word "Worthy" I get this sudden flash of it being typed by Garth in Wayne's World. Sorry: my bad)

Perfect dude!

Gummi, I understand your reaction. However, we're talking about RP here with consent from both parties envolved. If they wish to act the way they do...it's their choice. Lots of ppl who are not envolved in the whole dom/sub thing, will never understand it. Just my 2 cents.

Mandy C

Man, are the Goreans ban-happy... I love those notecards their sims have "RESPECT OUR CULTURE! IT IS A PROPER CULTURE. No furries, no robots, no kid-sized avs, no aliens, no (massive list continues). RESPECT IS VERY IMPORTANT! DON'T BE CLOSE-MINDED!" Lulz!