Self appointed forum mods....

I think you are right on all points yanno ... I personally DO call people when I think they are out of line. I've also tried to help people resolve some stupid things in world with varying degrees of success and failure.

I'll take your point about whining, I didn't think I was but I'll keep in mind that it looks that way. My personal thoughts about cliques is that actually ... it doesn't matter if there is a clique or not, I will do as I want to.

So yanno Ann .. it's not that I feel like I don't fit. Taking all the above into account, perhaps I consider that the status quo doesn't fit ME ... and although my tongue is very firmly in my cheek to say this, at the end of the day the only opinion of me which really matters is my own self perception.

Which generally is, I get too easily sucked into this sort of thing - and I am used to having to moderate (in the sense Isablan means) way way too much RL.

***ps*** Ann ... I am actually touched by what you say. I disagree, I am definitely not vital, but it was very nice of you to say that.

Is there a window open in here? I seem to feel a draft...
Guilty, on both counts. Recently, too. But really, Mael, I don't see how you can conclude from that that I "want to control who says what here." Say what you like! In turn, I'll respond in the way I think best. If you want a product, and I happen to know it's on SLX, I'll direct you there. If you're asking in the wrong place, I'll direct you to a better place to ask. If there's a past thread that has the information you want, I'll say so, and direct you right to it if I can. If you're trolling, I'll call you a troll to your face.

No, I don't want to be a forum mod. I've been one. It's a thankless task, and you're bound to displease somebody, no matter how hard you try. Besides, I have enough trouble keeping up with my duties as a volunteer mentor in-world. Turn it around: If you don't like the way I post, why don't YOU become a forum mod? Then you can ban me, or anyone else who annoys you.

hehe - this is why I do not visit third party forums I only look (well most of the time) while at work I'm very surprised, though, that SLU isn't blocked by my company yet. Well by the government.

And . . oh wow . . and here I was sending you a picture of me completely covered up. Granted I was sending it because it had a snowkitty in it. Wait did I send the snowkitty by self or with me in it? do not remember.

And seeing some of those names lets me know where everyone went. So is there a SLU hangout in world?

I wasn't referring to you there

I'll still take it on board

I have jokingly made reference to this before, but do people see Lexii and Lexxi as the same person? I mean me and Lexii W.


edit: ok, quoting like that didn't show why I asked the question. The quote from me was changed to "Originally Posted by Lexii"

I have offered to talk or help people in world too because there are people who helped me...
unfortunately majority never respond.

Nothing wrong with calling people out, that's called discussion. If you don't want to be finger pointing, you can use PM. If someone says something that annoys you, either Ignore it and move on , or say something about it. Don't just sit and stew over it. It's not healthy. It's just a Forum. No One Dies*

*Courtesy of Walker Moore

There is level of viciousness at times to new residents but it's not as bad as some forums.
Thing is most people who can learn and understand things easily by searching out the information often don't get those of us who are struggling with it.
Sometimes People ask questions because they want to connect with others or they are having difficulty understanding the information out there about how to do things in SL.
I must confess there is so much out there it gets bit overwhelming for myself because I am less logical, less tech savvy, but creative and want to create and improve our world in small way but often I don't know how.
Also there are lot of residents who are dealing with various disablities who are struggling with things that others might not know or it's not obvious.
It comes down to what type of community do we want the forum to provide or able to provide and what we want our virtual world via the forums to appear like.
I personally get sick and tired of people suggest going to the Ivory Tower of Prims because even though I can build my mind just doesn't rezz it.
The creator of place is nice guy. I understand not everyone has time to come by visit and explain things to newbies yet at same time it would be nice if bit thought would be put into how people respond to each other.
I know its hard, even I occasionally respond in flippant ways but I truthfully try to be helpful in my own ways.

Sunspot – I’ll just say that if you are going to generalize with terms like “sanctimonious regulars”, “they”, “them”, “regulars” and make very broad references to “ownership” and “community” like those words don’t include you because you are outside and above the hoi poi then you better expect some push back – especially from the very people who you are condemning as part of that group. Your posts are thinly veiled attacks that end up encompassing everyone who has chosen to be a regular contributor on the forums. If you have a problem with a specific set of people then go after them by all means, but when you say “forum regular” that means me and it means a whole lot of other people who don’t remotely fit into that neat little box you’ve stacked everyone in.

I think Moore moved to SLU. Not certain.

Yes. I speak for myself . If I say something you don't like, *The Collective You*, then please bring it to ME, by all means. Publicly or privately, doesn't matter. Don't hide behind generalizations and euphemisms. As Isablan said, all you are doing is insulting a lot of people who don't deserve it.

Yes, but his legacy lives on.

The "regulars" here are helpful and that can not be denied at all, but who decides what is a genuine question or not?

You say:
"Do we sometimes get frustrated when someone duplicates a topic that was JUST explored? "

I am not sure who this "We" is that you are speaking of, I hope your not speaking for myself.

But the point is your average new user does not know that topic has just been done, and to be quite frank some of the responses are rude in telling that person, I use the word "some", then what tends to happen is there will be a list as long as your arm of posters telling the poster just that...but each one trying to be wittier than the last in their reply, leaving the OP wondering what the hell is going on...

You are right in that directing someone to another thread or forum is not rude, I guess its how its said, but then everyone has a different standard of manners and what we perceive as rude.

You say when people feel "excluded" its generally by their own choice or because maybe they have been obnoxious in the past.

I am not sure where you get the word excluded from, as that tends to point towards the fact there is actually something to be excluded from when the rest of your post tries to deny that.

I like to think I am not obnoxious, nor do I feel "excluded" by my own choice from whatever it is your implying there is to be "excluded" from. Sadly the RA does seem to have an order of hierarchy of which I will never conform to so my face happily wont fit..that does not make me feel excluded, that actually makes me feel just fine being me!

I will giggle away at some of the posts here, I love reading the advice people give I am always learning some new fact from the RA. I enjoy reading people's opposing views and often wish I had the same debating skills... the RA has so much to offer, the people here do, but this "we" you speak of, can sometimes be quite intimidating however unintentional, when that happens I just happily go into lurking mode

I can only comment on this from my experience as a newbie back in July or so. I had posted after only a few days in sl, (numerous posts, as a matter of fact) and was only greeted by warm, gracious and informative people in giving their answers. It had been such a pleasant experience over the weeks, that when the hangout opened, I joined the group and became a regular visitor.

In either place, the forum or the hangout, I have always been made to feel welcome and greeted by the friendliest people I have ever known. I have never had the impression or feeling that it was "cliquish" or been made to feel like I was an outsider.

In addition, I had posted a question within the last week or two that was inappropriate for RA and someone said so. I didn't take offense to it being pointed out at all. I was glad for the comment so it would point me in the right direction for future queries. I had not realized that the forum in question existed, I'm ashamed to say that I had stopped scanning the forum topics when I came to RA and had never went further to explore.

Could be other newbies do the same, perhaps it would be better to put resident forums towards the bottom of the list?

Ashe

Yet Sunspot does hit the heart of the matter. Who decides who is a "part" of anything? There are a couple of posters whose posts are slammed because of who they are, there are some people who insist on bringing petty in world arguments here and ramming them down each other's throats. There are people who could post that they were giving each and every person 1000L and then DO it ... and still get reviled.

In any other sphere of life that would be called bullying, and the people so happy to take part in it and attack for no ACTUAL reason would be called bullies. Just cos this is the net, and because so many people can be forum warriors with some relative anonymity and being TWICE removed from their real selves ... a human being is still a human being after all.

No one dies, but feelings can still be hurt. Then people wonder why some members of this community attack. Maybe it's not always just because they are asshats, factor as that may be in individual cases.

Exactly WHO is going to give me my 1000 lindens Cherry?

I did not get my 1K either

I can only think of one person (and his many alts) who this happens to with any regularity. His posts are little more than thinly veiled ads for his rental property/rp sim. Yeh, he has a bad rep, but he earned every bit of it. He has repeatedly made wild accusations about his competition to try and hurt their business. That in an of it's self should earn him the scorn of everyone on this board.

Thats weird because you are part of the clique aren't you?

Suddenly I feel an urge to react to the clique part.... somebody stop me!

As you see I don't even have my 100 postings (getting close though!). So I am definately not part of the clique. Yet the questions I asked were answered, and whenever I enter the hangout people are friendly. Even that redneck isn't shooting me (promises promises *grin*). So either the clique is so well hidden I do not see it, or it simply isn't there.

However, some people are more popular then others. Because they post more, they are better known. Probably they get their 1k... The question that arises in my mind is, are the people who are so fixed at that clique idea, jealous of other peoples reputation? Well, it is just my mind

Ciao, Marcel

I don't disagree with that at all. Again I ca only speak from my personal views and limited experience in the internet social scene. To me the "Anything" is the forum. And to be part of it all you do is meet whatever requirements LL has set out to acess it. That's it. I don't hold any person in higher regard here than another as far as value to the Forum. Some I won't agree with on certain matters, but that doesn't mean I can't agree with them on the next. Or that if we met in world we wouldn't get along. Yes people do get ganged up on at times, some times deservedly, and we should try harder to take the high road. Civility is a 2 Way Street Everyone has to act according to their conscience, and should be held accountable individually, instead of being lumped into some mass category that paints all with an unfair brush.

Are you a Cartel Premium Member? Stipends are usually paid on Friday afternoons.

Is THAT what they call the clique these days???

Since Clique seems to be a perjorative , we had to think of something new.

1) Reputation? we fight over slutty ratings
2) redneck shooting you? Are you calling Sob a redneck? Because I do not recall Chris with a gun. And I only shot people with pies and snowballs, though I've been known to shot targets with actual guns.
3) I hope that I haven't annoyed anyone at any point and all are welcome
4) "that person and his alts" from Chris post - just noting that I've been known, also, to post using alts - mostly by accident. (alts with s because which is the alt? Sonia or Lexxi? At this point Sonia is the secondary but earlier account).
5) pie
6) penguins
7) I donated more than a 1000 meters of land, does that make me a Cartel Premium Member?
Jerry Seinfeld
9) Bob Newhart
10) Moo Better Blues
11) Whoa doggie
12) Auf Wiedersehen - would be an interesting name for a SL resident.