Self appointed forum mods....

Oh since YOU have moved past your issues with others here, then nobody else can have issues? They don't exist then? Uh huh.

There is a group of people on this forum who slaver to prove how witty they are by ridiculing people who ask questions that they may have seen before or who have the audacity to complain about certain topics. You can deny it, but I am not buying it.

!FU**!


How did this thread get back on topic again?

No, I don't presume to tell others how to act or think. Get over it when you are over it.

You are right, I don't like when people are ridiculed for asking the same questions over again. What does that have to do with anything else you are throwing at me right now?

I wouldn't name them in public either, but I certainly won't get on board with denying they exist.

And your last sentence, although you may not realise it -- many times that outsmartassing each other comes at someone else's expense.

For the record, I don't think that either you or Ray fit the bill of condescending people for whom being perceived as clever is more important than being civil.

People who chide others for asking age-old questions exist. But a forum clique does not. In my opinion.

Close tabs?

You mean not forgetting that you and I spoke about this very topic before and then trying to reconcile why you don't say such things in public is keeping tabs?

I lurk on several SL related forums including this one. I know who the players are. That's not keeping tabs, it's being observant.

I'd like you to know I chuckled at being called bored by someone with 10 times my post count.

Raymond, it's likely you have deleted the PMs by now, but I don't get many, so I still have them, and you said it. I'll PM it back to you. How the in the world can typing an entire word with no spelling or grammatical errors be a typo?

Observant? What have you observed, do tell.

If you want to assassinate my character, wait until the morning when some of the other people who don't like my posts can join in the mudslinging.

Personally, I find the level of ridicule in this forum lower than in most, including SL third party forums. In fact, the more general complaint about the tone of this forum is that it is too sunny and placating.

Not that there haven't been brutal exchanges, but that seems to be confined to folks who have histories with each other, so could be presumed to be at least on a level playing field.

Could you point to a thread where this ridicule is now taking place? Not criticism - which I hope you accept as a valid and necessary part of honest communication - but ridicule.

I don't think you could point to THIS thread; look at the derailment here and you will see the OP participating in it as the main discussion had already wound down.

Better yet, post it here since you are intent on trying to assassinate me in public. But include your PMs to me as well, please.

And yes, I deleted it and forgot about it a long time ago. I don't carry grudges for long. How about you?

It's called work avoidance.

Only their cured back legs.

Wait what?

You were complaining I even mentioned our PM exchange and now you want me to post them? (I won't be, because it's against the rules and just not right. Referencing a set of PMs is ONE THING - posting them up is another thing altogether). We both named the names of the three worst offenders at that time. Just because you got over those issues, doesn't mean that others haven't risen up to take their place.

You described some of the behaviour here as "churlishness". I am looking at it right now in another tab. I don't need to prove it. If you can't remember the things you say that is not my responsibility.

And I don't dislike you in the least Ray, I find you uproariously funny and insightful. The issue you and I have is that you get so defensive anytime someone like the OP or myself even suggests that there is a contingent of players on here who treat others, especially non-regulars, with disdain at times.

"Assassinate"? "Grudge"?

I called you on it because at one time we got into it before over this and I PM'ed you to APOLOGISE for my snarkiness, and you went on to basically agree with me! You even named names yourself!

You know what Ray, you're skin is too thin right now to belabour this any further. It's no wonder you get your knickers in a knot anytime someone dares call out the fact that there are those here who delight in chiding. I don't know why you feel it's your duty to defend this place anytime someone mentions the negativity that does occur, but the defensiveness sure doesn't help your case when denying it. It's not you doing it Ray! Why do you have to take the forums on your shoulders? IT'S NOT YOU! I hold no grudge against you or anyone else here, I am simply calling a spade a spade. I am sorry that affects you so much.

We all need to just calm down and take stock for a moment. We're a community, and as this video teaches us, everyone has a different way of showing how much they love someone;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxp3zqIqO68

Yes. I am protective of this place and ALL the respondants in it who do their best to try to answer resident questions with lightness and respect, and yes a little fun. Yes, I am thin-skinned. Yes, I get defensive.

Yes, I'm going to bed.

I do mostly agree, with some caveats. This forums is a place to come for answers. Most of those other forums you reference aren't. People see "Resident Answers" and they don't expect to be castigated for asking a question which has been asked before by people who while away a lot of time here and have become so comfy that they don't even realise that they are doing it. No, there isn't one specific thread, and it has gotten better around here in the past few months.

It's is strange to me that suddenly it (questions or observations that they think are redundant or inane) becomes a big deal and a huge sink on their time for people who post thousands of posts here. Today I saw someone admonished (complete with a smart alecky "sigh" for not searching SLex. Huh? What if they didn't KNOW about SLex? It's a 3rd party site! You'd think, that if it was such a drain on their energy and time, they would skim over the posts that they have deemed idiotic or tiresome, rather than spending more of their obviously valuable time crabbing at the OP. But this is how some "elevate" themselves (apparently in their own minds).

Lastly, I never put very much stock in the defensive claims of forum regulars. They just don't see it many times because they have removed themselves from it and they don't want to believe that their "home" can become inhospitable at times.

Key words are "at times". I am not saying the place is terrible over all, I am saying that I have seen people treated badly by SOME of the regulars here. Whether or not it's better or worse elsewhere is beside the point.

I do agree that sometimes people are shouted down with:
"God this topic has been done to death"
Then I look at the forum join date of that poster and they are days old...I feel very sorry for them when I see that.

I have seen one post advising a a new poster of how to act and post so they will "fit right in".. whats that about? its RA not a popularity contest!?!

There is one poster on here, who whenever asks a question is followed by 4 or 5 pages shouting them down saying what a waste of time they are ..e.t.c..same old, same old... if that poster is such a waste of time, why do 4 or 5 pages follow telling that poster that?!! All the posts saying the same thing really, but its like one big "slap on the back" fest of each other!

There is no one I dislike on here, some I feel aren't my cup of tea but I am more than sure I am not theirs...I do believe that people on here on the whole ARE very helpful when they can be, but to be honest I do feel its turning into a "if your face fits" Mine doesn't.. so I tend to stand back and lurk unless I know I can really help or someone has said something that has moved me enough to comment on.

/me so sorry if I ever sounded judgemental or nasty in any of my post.
I often find sometimes when I am looking for information in search one problem after another. I don't know about anyone else.
I think sometimes people including me get lonesome or bored and having hard time connecting in world with the ghost town feel that often feel within SL...and come to RA to reach out in their own unique ways to cure the boredom or loneliness of being a resident.

[joke]I R Da Boss of U!!! Does What I Sez!!![/joke]

lots of reasons for people reminding or informing others of the 'rules' (LL's)
to redirect people to the most useful place for their question
to warn people abou things that might get them in trouble
to increase the Signal to Noise ratio (in favor of signal we hope)
because they have nothing better to do
etc, etc

but also, some remember what the forums used to be, and what's left now, and would hate to lose that too, if LL decides it's too out of control to bother with.

I don't know majority pay a whole lot. I don't think SL should be removing services that get in away of connecting with other residence.
In fact the ghost town feel and lack of community may eventually kill SL off or slow down the any progress it makes in future if nothing else does.

Ten pages? ouch. OK, probably been said a dozen times .. but ...


If someone asks a question about scripting here, they may not have noticed there is a scripting forum.

I am not a scripter .. but I do know there is a scripting forum.

Isn't saying there is a scripting forum, better than just 'I don't know'? Doesn't this in some small way answer their question, directing them to a place that stands a better chance of a specialised LSL routine?

Depends how you say it - if it's in a "sheesh-post-in-the-right-place-wouldya?" kind of way it can be pretty off-putting, if it's in an "I-can't-answer-but-you-might-have-more-luck-here" kind of way it is helpful and welcoming. Same goes for posting urls to similar threads.

Thanks Midi, I posted from only reading the OP. I've scanned up though Maelstroms posts only and have got the gist now.

you are welcome, happy xmas (I'm doing my bit spreading christmas cheer and pretending I'm not a humbug)

Sadly LL isn't filling ResMod positions. I don't know why.

*moves thread*