Self appointed forum mods....

Get over it. It does. Case closed.

And before you or anyone else start saying anything about my views and attitudes ... meh ... I personally don't care that I am not part of the in crowd. I like my quirks and nonconformity.

Open opportunity care giver.
Brat.
Whatever.

QFT Tiana. I hope I've not been one you've bristled at, I am self admittedly opinionated. My face don't fit either, toots, but I am glad you also don't write off the people who do as evil ones

I disagree with that. I think some of us do. We just get ignored.

Yanno FD I think you are right in many cases there are people who are feeling estranged. It's why I often say to talk to me in world in my replies. Sometimes people even follow it up ...

Or told that it just doesn't happen.

i know i am on several peoples ignore list for whatever petty reason.
yes i have pointed people to threads that will get them the answers they seek a lot quicker.
if i dont know, i dont answer,(except that one time where dazzled and befuddled via the windlight waters, i typed out an answer that one retrospect made no sense even to me)
people have opinions, they are entitled to them, you are entitled to not read them as well, including mine.


Merry %@%#*$ Xmas!

Yes, but I forgive you. hehe

I have a tendency to do the opposite . . ok that isn't the opposite . . I have the tendency to do the same, but with quotes from the threads I link to in the new thread like in that Explore SL thread, and that skin thread (though there I linked to a later thread in the gallery section for anyone that actually wanted to look at skins in picture form). hehe

A) in an oven silly
B) See: USA President Bill Clinton
C) I suddenly want to visit third party forums
D) wow, another sex one? hehe

A) in an oven silly
B) See: USA President Bill Clinton
C) I suddenly want to visit third party forums
D) wow, another sex one? hehe

Yes, but I forgive you. hehe

I have a tendency to do the opposite . . ok that isn't the opposite . . I have the tendency to do the same, but with quotes from the threads I link to in the new thread like in that Explore SL thread, and that skin thread (though there I linked to a later thread in the gallery section for anyone that actually wanted to look at skins in picture form). hehe

I'd probably put you on ignore if you pretended to be a bleeding heart liberal with feelings. icky

Thank-you. I do not, in fact, use a giant light focused on me to light me up, I instead have an inherent internal light shining out of me. I shall now refer people to this post and news story when they question my "face light." Whatever a "face light" could possibly be.

Is this the royal 'we' ))

I'd probably put you on ignore if you pretended to be a bleeding heart liberal with feelings. icky

Please do not chop off your head and hang it up on the gates for all to point at and mock, please . . . it is just bad form to chop your own head off and hang it up. Also it is creepy to see a headless body carrying its own head on a platter over to that gate to hang that head there.

Please do not chop off your head and hang it up on the gates for all to point at and mock, please . . . it is just bad form to chop your own head off and hang it up. Also it is creepy to see a headless body carrying its own head on a platter over to that gate to hang that head there.


Um . . . is Conan also Maelstrom?

There is no clique.

There IS a community.

We joke around, tease, and sometimes argue with one another, just like any other community. Some of us are even friends and, yes, we support and defend our friends when we feel it necessary.

The perception of a clique is not the same as the actuality of one. Cliques are exclusionary by nature, whereas the regulars here are generally welcoming to anyone with genuine questions. Do we sometimes get frustrated when someone duplicates a topic that was JUST explored? Yes, we're only human after all. Do we frequently have a little too much fun derailing already answered or obviously trolling threads? Again, yes, but that's largely LL's fault for not giving us an appropriate forum for merriment.

Directing someone to another forum/thread/site is not rude, it's an attempt to help them find the best answer to their question. Pointing out rules they may not be aware of is also meant to be helpful, so they do not find themselves in unexpected trouble.

When people feel excluded, it's generally by their own choice...either because they've chosen to believe they're not wanted, or because they've behaved obnoxiously on repeated occasions. It's ridiculous to blame the community when you've isolated yourself.

Now get over it and have some frelling pie.

I know I saw him mentioning gently massaging his ham, but did he mention that it was dead?

This thread makes me look like this at my screen:



Then again, I might better understand it when i am a member of the clique. Kliek that is in Dutch. But i dont wanna! They kick people out in the middle of a meeting just to be exclusive (according to a member of the kliek that is...).


Have fun, Marcel

There is a lot of mockery and or derision in this very thread.

OK, thanks, I won't do it anymore!

See how easy that was? Maybe some of the behaviors people don't like could be mitigated by just politely pointing out that it's irritating when it happens, rather than venting later about it. Threads like this, which complain about a behavior without explicit examples of it, puzzle me and make me paranoid about my own behavior. Then again, reposting explicit examples would be finger-pointing and would prolly cause bad feelings to escalate.

I think that gently pointing out unpleasantness when it happens would be more helpful. Usually people are trying to be helpful when they point to SLX or other threads ... they just get impatient.

I think you are missing the point Ann. I have not excluded myself, far from it, a lot of the things you lot take for granted had at least some input from me at some stage.

Nor have I behaved obnoxiously, to my understanding.

The fact is that when the response to obnoxious behaviour from one person is a flurry of equally bad behaviour which goes unquestioned, and especially where people are subjected to repeated bringing up of their past indiscretions no matter what the situation, that is not a BALANCED community.

The Forum itself is not a balanced community, nor is it representational of the vast majority of SL users. It *IS* representational of people who like posting to Forums.

My face does not fit, has never fitted and will not fit but it's my face and it's staying that way. Plus, I do what I want anyway (only bearing in mind ToS and basic decency where possible).

Maybe not everyone does want pie after all. I am on a diet. I will be having fruit.

/me looks confused and lays out a plate of strawberries and then flees

Smiles. See, kitty kitty, no need to be scared of me. I am the softest heart you could meet.

I'm not. I consider you a vital part of our community, but I can't stop you from insisting that you don't fit in. You've chosen to feel that way, despite what others may actually think.

I also believe you're putting too much emphasis on 'balance.' We definitely have our ups and downs, but it's generally a friendly, helpful forum.

Fruit tart?

I'm purposely not posting the actual image here, but try post #28 here:

http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/showthread.php?t=4279

To be fair, you don't get a balanced community without moderation - and by that I don't mean somebody swooping in and locking threads. Moderation means input and guidance before the thread reaches to point of locking. It means setting a standard of behavior in how people treat each other. It means drawing very clear lines in the sand. We don't have that and probably never will because that would require this to be someone's regular job and LL has made it clear that they don't want to be community managers, they want to be a service provider. So, we end up with this hybrid of a quasi-official forum that retains a "wild-west" atmosphere for lack of leadership and enforced rules.

I, personally, don't have a problem with RA but I am aware that others do. Those that do have a problem with it would be far better served by ceasing to hide behind the nebulous "clique" reference, strapping on a set and calling people out on behavior that they find bad. If you think someone is being rude, then come the hell out and say it point blank, maybe you'll get hostility in return and maybe you will help change that person's behavior. Whining about a clique is a coward's way of expressing disapproval and achieves exactly nothing in the long run.

I sure see a lot of people using "we" here. Speaking for this "community".

Very telling.

It's amazing to me that people try to deny that there is a contingent of sanctimonious regulars here who revel in knocking people down for any excuse. That doesn't mean they all hang out together or are a clique. That doesn't mean that all regulars here are that way - on the contrary, most aren't. However, there is a piling on mentality that gets fired up from time to time. No, I don't think it's intentional, and that people talk behind the scenes and plan things out or talk smack about people. But there is a sort of competition for certain people to one up each other at other people's expense when the engine gets fired up in certain threads..

What I really don't get, is that the people taking the most offense to this are those who are almost always kind, helpful and polite. That indicates to me some sort of a sense of ownership over the place. It's a protective instinct that people get when they feel like their "community" has been slighted in the least. Get over it. You're not special, this happens on many forums, but that doesn't mean we should not discuss it just because it may inflame some regulars sensibilities.

And Isablan, I personally do call them out individually and have many times. I then usually get laid into by OTHER regulars who back them up because they are this "community" and they guard it like pit bulls.

Watching the sharply worded and extremely defensive reactions of some regulars here when they are confronted with this is very educational.