Bugs / Known Issues

I have the same problem with the last two clients (1.12.1.9 and 1.12.1.13). When trying to connect to SL (with the firewall disabled, mind you), I get the following result:

2006-09-29T11:00:37Z INFO: Resolving Agni userserver domain name serserver.agni.lindenlab.com
2006-09-29T11:00:38Z INFO: ...Userserver resolved to 66.150.244.151:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:38Z INFO: LLCircuit::addCircuitData for 66.150.244.151:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:38Z INFO: Verifying message template...
2006-09-29T11:00:39Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:39Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:43Z INFO: Resending on timeout
2006-09-29T11:00:43Z INFO: Verifying message template...
2006-09-29T11:00:44Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:44Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:44Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:45Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:46Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:48Z INFO: Resending on timeout
2006-09-29T11:00:48Z INFO: Verifying message template...
2006-09-29T11:00:49Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:49Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:49Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:49Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:50Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:51Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:53Z INFO: Resending on timeout
2006-09-29T11:00:54Z INFO: Verifying message template...
2006-09-29T11:00:54Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:54Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:54Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:54Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:56Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:59Z INFO: Resending on timeout
2006-09-29T11:00:59Z INFO: Verifying message template...
2006-09-29T11:00:59Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:59Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:59Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:59Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:00:59Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:01:01Z WARNING: Packet from invalid circuit 192.168.0.1:12036
2006-09-29T11:01:04Z WARNING: Alert: [SystemMayBeDown]
2006-09-29T11:01:04Z WARNING: Alert: Unable to connect to Second Life
2006-09-29T11:01:04Z The system may be down.
2006-09-29T11:01:04Z Please try again in a few minutes, or click Help
2006-09-29T11:01:04Z for advice and a link to the system status web page.

192.168.0.1 is my local gateway/router; there is no problem with the firewall on the router either, since another computer on the same local network can connect to SL using a Windoze client.

I use SuSE 10.0 with KDE 3.5.4. I was able to connect to SL with older clients, so I suspect the problem has appeared after upgrading to KDE 3.5.4. However, I cannot tell what happened. No other software had any trouble with the network after that upgrade, apart from the SL client.

Any hint would be much appreciated!

Secondlife 1.12.1.13 is crashing on a system that runs 1.12.1.9 fine, the final console messages are:

2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: Initializing window...
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: createContext, fullscreen=0 size=800x600
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: createContext: creating window 800x600x32
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: GL buffer:
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: Red Bits 8
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: Green Bits 8
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: Blue Bits 8
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: Alpha Bits 8
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: Depth Bits 24
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: Stencil Bits 0
2006-09-30T21:19:44Z INFO: GL Probe: Getting symbols
bin/secondlife-bin: symbol lookup error: bin/secondlife-bin: undefined symbol: glXGetProcAddress

* Mandrivia 2005 x86_64
* KDE
* Linux Gerri 2.6.12-12mdk #1 Fri Sep 9 17:26:56 CEST 2005 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+ unknown GNU/Linux
* X.Org 6.9 (don't have xpdyinfo, from KDE control panel)
* OpenGL renderer string: GeForce FX 5700/AGP/SSE2, OpenGL version string: 2.0.0 NVIDIA 76.76
* Nvidia GeForce FX 5700 256MB ram
* vendor_id : AuthenticAMD, model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+, cpu MHz : 2411.039, cache size : 512 KB
* Mem: 1026480k total, 831704k used, 194776k free, 50648k buffers
Swap: 2101640k total, 0k used, 2101640k free, 349032k cached

Okay this was talked about in another thread, but that thread seems to be buried now so it should probably get mentioned here.

SL uses OSS by default, which is less than optimal. OSS will lock out all other programs from using the sound card. Can't run XMMS and SL at the same time wah!

It will fail over to ALSA, but ALSA... don't work. If I start it when XMMS is running, it slows down to an unusable crawl, makes XMMS skip badly and for some reason the system time shoots up to 50%. If I start it when XMMS isn't running, it just locks up during the login sequence...

Anyone got it working with aoss? For some reason, if I try to use it, SL refuses to use OSS, and tries to use ALSA...

Is there a way to get fmod to just use the SDL sound API? Its well tested and will handle OSS/ALSA/esound/arts/jack, whatever the user wants...

Just got a random crash, walking around doing nothing special.

-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 46 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:50Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 47 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:50Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 48 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:50Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 49 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:50Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 50 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:50Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 51 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:50Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 52 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:50Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 53 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:50Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 54 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:51Z INFO: Circuit: 69.25.104.35:13005 resent 4 packets
2006-10-10T21:50:51Z INFO: Sending throttle settings, total BW 900
2006-10-10T21:50:51Z INFO: Tightening network throttle to 921600
2006-10-10T21:50:55Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 37 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:55Z WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer eba372eb-d1ed-975f-9939-8d58e8ce6794, got 39 expecting 5
2006-10-10T21:50:56Z INFO: Playing back delayed packet 3
2006-10-10T21:50:56Z INFO: Sending throttle settings, total BW 750
2006-10-10T21:50:56Z INFO: Tightening network throttle to 768000
2006-10-10T21:50:57Z INFO: remove_marker_file()

That one happens to me a LOT. Sometimes I survive it, sometimes I don`t. I`ll bet that just prior to your crash, either (A) your packet loss skyrocketed, or (B) your display froze solid. Possibly both. (B) sometimes locks the mouse pointer, and sometimes doesn`t. Sometimes it locks up so hard that even CAPSLOCK doesn`t work. When it locks up that hard, a hard reset is all that will get me out. [I don`t have the ability to open an shell from another machine, and use that to kill secondlife-bin.]

Sorry about asking this but I can't seem to work out the solution. I'm using SL on a homebuilt sempron 2600 with slackware 10.2. SecondLife starts and then outputs the error about a new version being available. I've deleted the folder and unpacked again and also done that as root using the /tmp folder. I've used the CLI to unpack the bz2 file. Is there a simple answer/solution to this? TIA

Pull the latest client, 1.12.2.7, first. Get a fresh copy, and tell us what your setup is. What hardware do you have, including 3D card.

Thanks Drake B, I didn't realize the version #s were changing so quickly.
I will get the latest release and try again. Will provide the system info if there are further probs.

Distribution: Ubuntu Dapper Drake
Hardware: Compaq Pressario Laptop M2000
Memory: 384mb
Desktop: Tried several (primarily Gnome)
3D: ATI Radion Xpress 200m 5955

SecondLife starts, does login, puts me on the Island and then the whole PC crashes.

Cannot even use Ctrl-Alt-F6 etc. to get to shell... the whole thing is dead.

Anybody else had this and found a workaround?

Sean

EDIT: Found solution on another thread. Setting LL_GL_NOEXT=x stops the crash. Anybody know whether the next version will fix this issue or whether it's something that's likely to stay???

AFAIK this is not a known issue.

to a tail -n 50 SecondLife_i686_1_12_2_7/SecondLife/logs/SecondLife.log

Also look in /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog /var/log/kern.log

for any kernel panic messages!?

I don't know where ATI drivers log to, but you should check those too.

Edit: Just had an idea: what is the CPU temp like? you could be overheating and locking up as a result!

New player here, I just experienced something very similar to this.
System: ATI graphics with newest proprietary drivers / kubuntu dapper system

Secondlife client is completely locked. I can still move the mouse but no windows accept input. (Probably the game has locked the input devices)
Logging in via ssh works, from there I can kill the process (though I have to do it twice) and it all goes back to normal.
Using the " LL_GL_NOEXT=x ./secondlife" it works ok.

There's no specific info in the terminal, it complains alot about:
2006-10-14T19:34:01Z WARNING: Could not load data '/home/ddskrjo/build/SecondLife_i686_1_12_2_9/SecondLife/cache/247f1485-4c7a-8526-d8ee-3b392e4f64ba.dsf': This command failed because FSOUND_Init was not called

It does not seem related. Looking at it again it seems to lockup as soon as the textures are drawn.

Hi. I'm getting very low performance (as in 0.5FPS) or total freezes using the Linux Alpha client. When running under Xfce, it freezes just before displaying the world or after it has shown about two frames of 3D. I also tried running it without any desktop environment running, just for fun, and it somewhat worked, although the framerate was about one frame per two seconds. The only thing that caught my eye in the logs were numerous "WARNING: Out of order packet in transfer 1b159701-5737-7136-8943-10af35d6a50f, got 44 expecting 41" messages, followed some time later by "INFO: Playing back delayed packet 44" messages.

Excuse possible stupidity with the terminology in the last paragraph, I haven't actually used SL before, just wanted to try it out.

Distribution: Gentoo

Desktop environment: Xfce4 (although I tried without any DE too)

Kernel info: 2.6.18-gentoo #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Sep 24 14:50:50 EEST 2006 i686 Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

X.Org version: 7.1.1

server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON XPRESS Series Generic
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6065 (8.29.6)

Video card: ATI Radeon Xpress 1100
Video memory: Shared with main memory, not 100% sure but it should be 128MB

vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
model name : Mobile AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3200+
cpu MHz : 800.000 (cpufreqd will scale it up to 1.6GHz when doing something heavy though)
cache size : 512 KB

Mem: 903476k total
Swap: 1004052k total

Edit: The LL_GL_NOEXT=x environment variable stops it from crashing (Edit2: although it seems to make the world unresponsible to clicks. GUI works though)... what does it do anyways?

Make sure you have the fglrx drivers installed and drop your video memory usage. Shared memory takes it out of your RAM, so drop it until things speed up and it's all in VRAM.

I've got two Linux boxen, both on ubuntu. One of them (a desktop with nvidia) runs fine, but the other one (a Thinkpad T43 laptop with Radeon) hangs _hard_ whenever I run SL. It logs on, displays where I last was, and then hangs within a second or two. Mouse movement's the only thing I get: not even caps lock works, and I have to do a hard reset (power button down for several seconds).

I'm running 1.12.2.9, I've got a gig of RAM, and 64meg of video on a Radeon Mobility M300, running fglrx.

I've tried taking the video memory setting down to 32meg - doesn't help.

When I change the video memory setting, the client reports:
WARNING: VRAM amount not detected, defaulting to 536870912 MB
INFO: *** DETECTED 105373632 MB of system memory.

This seems unlikely.

I've seen other people have problems with this, but no fix, other than something about disabling Alsa: how do I do this, please? I'm already running esd.

Cheers!

Does LL_GL_NOEXT=x not get around the issue? In the secondlife script.

Sean

I've noticed that running the 1.12.2.9 client concurrently with Mozilla Firefox running will cause X to randomly crash. I don't see the crashing behavior if Firefox isn't running

I'm on Ubuntu Dapper, with an Intel Integrated graphics chipset. I know SL has some Mozilla dependencies - could there be some weird library issue?

I'm having the same issues (accidently posted in the wrong place Oops!)

Let's see...

Xorg 7
Xfce4
ATI (Mobiltiy x1400) with fglrx drivers (works with no problems on other games)
2GB Ram
Pentium Core Duo 1.7Ghz


I start it up, totally locks up X, forces me to do a hardboot.

I can't use the keyboard, mouse, or ssh into my laptop to kill SL.

The update prior to this worked 100% flawlesly for me, now I download the new client to hop on and BAM! Not working.

Hi! The Linux client does not currently use or interact with Mozilla in any way.

Thanks, Tofu. Wonder if I'm overloading the graphics chip in some way? It seems to tip over when I alt-tab or change focus from SL to Firefox, but it's unpredictable as to when it happens.

Hangs can be the result of an overheated/overclocked graphics chipset, or a faulty AGP chipset. Most commonly they indicate a graphics driver bug, however. Graphics driver bugs tend to hurt more on Linux where there isn't a wide variety of hardware that's supported well by OpenGL (to be honest the list is very short right now: nVidia cards in general and some of the ATi range) or a long history of alternative drivers to try.

I'll be continually trying to improve compatibility with existing Linux drivers by using lots of workarounds where possible, although that is mostly post-Beta work.

Seem to have a similar problem with 1.12.2.9 - hangs at login. Music begins to play back for a few seconds, then the frame rate drops to basically zero and I need to kill the do-not-directly-run-secondlife-bin process to get the machine back.

No luck trying LL_GL_NOEXT=x ./secondlife

I haven't tried disabling ALSA / OSS yet (I am using ESD btw.) If this looks like it's sound-related based on the warning messages in the log file below, let me know..

Actually, it is trying to use ALSA right?

140. 2006-10-19T16:31:37Z INFO: LLAudioEngine_FMOD::init() initializing FMOD
141. 2006-10-19T16:31:37Z INFO: Audio output: ALSA
142. 2006-10-19T16:31:37Z INFO: LLAudioEngine_FMOD::init() FMOD initialized correctly

Should I just switch off ESD or force it use ESD?
LL_BAD_ALSA=x LL_BAD_OSS=x ./secondlife

or switch sound off?
LL_BAD_ALSA=x LL_BAD_OSS=x LL_BAD_ESD=x ./secondlife

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I also have funny memory stats in the log.. (that MB ..or KB)?
021. 2006-10-19T16:31:36Z WARNING: VRAM amount not detected, defaulting to 536870912 MB
022. 2006-10-19T16:31:36Z INFO: *** DETECTED 528322560 MB of system memory.

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Here's the SecondLife.log file
http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27352/

The first warning messages seem to be about a missing overrides.xml file

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Here's a /var/log/messages output
http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27359/



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info

Ubuntu Dapper (Gnome)
RAM: 528322560
OS: Linux 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686
GL_VENDOR NVIDIA Corporation
GL_RENDERER GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
GL_VERSION 1.5.6 NVIDIA 87.62

(the NVIDIA driver is 87.62 which is current Dapper)

Let me know if you need any more info.

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UPDATE: Just like a number of other users whose posts I have now seen, I've tracked it down to ALSA. Problem solved by forcing SL to use ESD instead of ALSA.

LL_BAD_ALSA=x LL_BAD_OSS=x ./secondlife

If you're using the open source drivers on Intel hardware, the drivers are still fairly new and probably haven't been stressed tested on something like Second Life. On the up side, these bugs can be fixed upstream and Tofu doesn't have to work around them...

One of these days I need to bug the r300 developers about getting the open source drivers working with SL. (It just hangs last time I tried.)

OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON X800 GTO Generic
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6065 (8.29.6)


MSI X800

Linux c-24-12-75-86 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux

I'm just posting to include that:
LL_GL_NOEXT=x ./secondlife

FIxed things for me as well.

The client seems to have issues with X.org 7, as I see others have been fine with 6.8.2. This is on Debian unstable. It always reports that I don't have 32 bit color available, yet it is set to 32 (or 24, both work the same).

2006-10-24T03:17:49Z WARNING: LLWindowManager::create() : Error creating window.
2006-10-24T03:17:49Z WARNING: Unable to create window, be sure screen is set at 32-bit color in Control Panels->Display->Settings
(and exits)


screen #0:
dimensions: 1680x1050 pixels (427x267 millimeters)
resolution: 100x100 dots per inch
depths (7): 24, 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 32
root window id: 0x44
depth of root window: 24 planes

both DefaultDepth and Depth are set in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to 32 currently.

Do I need to change some other setting? Thanks!

Change it to 24. You don't need to set it to 32, the driver will know. You are using the binary drivers, are you?