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Rizzermon Sopor
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03-25-2006 10:06
From: Angel Sunset
It's a feature.... :D

SL takes all the cpu it can get, to improve your playing experience. If its not loading textures or whatever, this cpu power goes into responsiveness. However, in linux at least, this has never delayed other programs for me, like web browsing or whatever.

I would personally think SL was not well written, if I got low frame rates and cpu was not being used :)


Hi,

Thanks for the informative response. I can breathe a sigh of relief knowing it is a feature.

No, in general it does not delay other linux applications except for one. I was trying to take movies using gvidcap since the in-app movie does not work yet. Was trying to chronicle a bit of my newbie experiences on SL, since I am a first time user of SL and my first time use being with the linux client. It unfortunately drops the capture frame rate and the SL frame rate to a very low value (less than a frame every 4 or 5 seconds at times) producing not very useable movies. Yes, I can take screenshots at will using a program such as xwd. Maybe I need more memory, dunno. Oh well, would be nice to chronicle my newbie linux journey with video on SL, but doesn't look like it will happen. :(

Anyhow, other than that, I am mainly experiencing bugs that seem generally reported, like the crashing in going from fullscreen back to windowed mode.

Beyond that though, I am finding SL fairly easy to get on to. I found the public sandbox and then from there went to the extended newbie tutorial and learned some very neat basic information about opening boxes and using their contents, basic building lessons, and more. Very nicely done SL for the newbies. :D

Edit: I threw together a little script where I use xwd to do sequential grabs of the Second Life window and have been able to make 5 fps video from them using gimp-gap. Not great frame rates, but I'll take it for now unless I can figure out something even better. :D
Angel Sunset
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03-25-2006 10:17
Though I haven't tried it under Linux, under Windows 512 MB was borderline for SL. I was only really happy with SL with 1024 MB. But that may be because I always have opera open in the background, with at least 8 tabs active.

I have noticed, that other graphics intensive programs (even big animated Gifs on Opera tabs) slow my framerate, and I presume that is the limited graphics power I have. So does having RealPlayer running - sound processing seems to be a heavy drain, too. AT Live Events, I copy the url of the DJ's site to RealPlayer, and get the music in Linux :D

More memory wouldn't hurt, in other words, but may not fix your "jitter" :)
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Darkside Eldrich
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03-25-2006 11:46
From: Angel Sunset
Though I haven't tried it under Linux, under Windows 512 MB was borderline for SL. I was only really happy with SL with 1024 MB. But that may be because I always have opera open in the background, with at least 8 tabs active.


I *managed* to run SL in Windows XP on 384 Mb RAM with an ATI Radeon 7500. It was lagged to crap, but it *did* run...

Now I bet that same hardware in Linux would run faster. Just a hunch :)
Darkside Eldrich
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03-25-2006 17:01
Possible new bug:

When in "about land", if I try to return objects, the game crashes... not sure if this is reproducible, since I don't want to arbitrarily return objects.
KittyFox Mistral
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03-25-2006 23:14
From: Angel Sunset
It's a feature.... :D

SL takes all the cpu it can get, to improve your playing experience. If its not loading textures or whatever, this cpu power goes into responsiveness. However, in linux at least, this has never delayed other programs for me, like web browsing or whatever.

I would personally think SL was not well written, if I got low frame rates and cpu was not being used :)

IIRC, there is a command-line option to give some CPU time back to the system. I think it was something like -ms <msec> would cause a CPU rest for the given amount of milliseconds, and potentially lower CPU usage. If you're having trouble with certain apps not getting enough CPU time with SL running, try using that with low numbers (eg. 1 or 5 or something).
Hel Jezebel
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03-26-2006 17:25
From: Darkside Eldrich
Possible new bug:
When in "about land", if I try to return objects, the game crashes... not sure if this is reproducible, since I don't want to arbitrarily return objects.

I've got the same thing. Happens if I try and return objects to myself as well, which could be helpful for bug reproduction.
Angel Sunset
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03-27-2006 00:33
From: KittyFox Mistral
IIRC, there is a command-line option to give some CPU time back to the system. I think it was something like -ms <msec> would cause a CPU rest for the given amount of milliseconds, and potentially lower CPU usage. If you're having trouble with certain apps not getting enough CPU time with SL running, try using that with low numbers (eg. 1 or 5 or something).


Though I wouldn't use it (my framerate is so poor, I won't even mention what it is - weak computer components :D ), the parameter as far as I can see is "-yield <ms>": yield some idle time to local host (changed from -cooperative), where <ms> is the value in milliseconds, apparently. Whether this is ms / second, or what, is not mentioned. I guess thats something you have to try out.

Reference: http://secondlife.com/badgeo/wakka.php?wakka=newview.

Presumably the parameter goes directly after the "secondlife.bin" in the "secondlife script.

However, I would say renicing the secondlife.bin process may be more flexible, and useful.
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Kate Mommsen
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Texture transparency b0rken
03-29-2006 08:49
I have this same issue running the Windows client in WINE, so I suspect it has to do with the video RAM detection issue, but - alpha blending and transparency don't seem to work at all. At best, the result is that transparent textures are opaque instead. At worst, blotchy fugly patterns also appear. Oddly, sometimes others seem to see the same oddness I'm seeing. When not using a full-body tattoo skin, the face also has an odd color and a beard (male or female). Mostly cosmetic issues - otherwise, no major issues.

My configuration:
Distro: Gentoo Linux 2006.0
Desktop: XFCE 4.2.2 (Also tried KDE 3.4, same result)
Linux 2.6.15.4
Xorg 6.8.0
nVidia accelerated driver 84.21
2x nVidia GeForce 7800GT 256MB, in non-SLI rendering mode (driving 2 monitors)
2x AMD Opteron 250, 1024kb L2 cache, 128k L1 cache
4096MB physical RAM, 8192MB virtual.
Tyan Thunder K8WE motherboard
CobaltDaemon Control
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Posts: 8
Inventory search minor broken
03-29-2006 10:52
* Linux Distribution: Debian 3.1r1
* Desktop Environment Gnome 2.12 ( from unstable )
* Kernel info : 2.6.8-3-386 #1 Thu Feb 9 07:17:13 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
* X version Xorg 6.9.0
* Video driver: OpenGL RADEON 9600 XT Generic 2.0.5695 (8.23.7)
* Video card model & amount of video memory: 9600xt-VIO , 256mb DDR
* CPU info (from /proc/cpuinfo... vendor_id, model name, cpu MHz, cache size)
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
cpu MHz : 2044.526
cache size : 512 KB
* Amount of physical and virtual memory Mem:906736k total Swap: 2570392k total

Inventory doesn't search feature doesn't work if you don't turn on caplock yourself.
Changing direction your looking using ALT and click a direction.
Items not showing when dragging from invertory to ground or another person.
Kick Madonna
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Posts: 16
unable to unlink groups
03-29-2006 12:48
Ubuntu (Drooper Drake) 6.06
Xgl - Xorg 7
ATI All in Wonder 9600 (128mb)
3.0 ghz P4
2gb ram


Unable to unlink items. This might be related to a similar keybinding issue.
Chris Fardel
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Join date: 8 Sep 2005
Posts: 8
Can't Left Click Objects after switiching virtual desktops
03-31-2006 12:23
Hello,

I am using CENT OS 4.3

I can't left click objects after switiching virtual desktops in Gnome. The same issue has happened in other distributions
Davey Callisto
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04-10-2006 19:34
Won't even start for me. Using 1.9.0.21

$ ./secondlife

I get a 10-20 seconds of what appears to be nothing happening followed by a load of messages about the different libaries loading ending in a load of failed/missing symbol errors:

CODE

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2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glEvalMesh1'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glEvalMesh2'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glMapGrid1f'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glMapGrid2d'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glMapGrid2f'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glMap1f'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glMap2f'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glVertexAttribPointerARB'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glNewObjectBufferATI' in '(default OpenGL library)
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glUpdateObjectBufferATI' in '(default OpenGL library)
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glFreeObjectBufferATI' in '(default OpenGL library)2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glArrayObjectATI' in '(default OpenGL library)
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glVertexAttribArrayObjectATI' in '(default OpenGL library)
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glXGetCurrentDisplay'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glXQueryExtensionsString'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glXGetProcAddressARB'.
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Couldn't initialize mipmap generation
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Couldn't initialize GL_EXT_paletted_texture
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Couldn't initialize GL_NV_vertex_array_range
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Couldn't initialize GL_NV_fence
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Couldn't initialize separate specular color
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: Couldn't initialize anisotropic filtering
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z WARNING: Invalid control RenderUserFarClip
Mesa 6.3.2 implementation error: User called no-op dispatch function (an unsupported extension function?)
Please report at bugzilla.freedesktop.org
2006-04-11T02:22:30Z INFO: remove_marker_file()


The client window appears for about 2 seconds and then disappears. In this time no log in box or splash screen are visible, just a blank looking gray window with a normal window border.

HP Compaq nx9005 laptop
1.67GHz AMD AthlonXP
768MB RAM
ATI Radeon 3200/Mobility (onboard) 32MB
OS: Ubuntu 5.10 (installed on hard disk)
Window manager: Gnome 2.12 (only default choice with Ubuntu)
kernel: 2.6.12-9-k7
Xorg: 6.8.2 (October 10th 2005 build)
Direct rendering: yes, using 'ati' driver
Random Metropolitan
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04-26-2006 23:31
I am currently experiencing this issue as well - although interestingly enough, it was working (with some issues) before my latest system update. Mine is just slightly different than yours.

SL 1.9.0.21
Kernel 2.6.16-gentoo-r1
Gentoo Linux, Xorg 7, "radeon" driver with DRI... Mesa 6.4.2
Presario 2100 Notebook - Celeron/2.0ghz, Radeon Mobility 345something, 512MB RAM
Happily chugging along with other OpenGL apps in KDE 3.5.2 :)

Edit: Tried Mesa 6.5, same problem. Why was it working before and not now? :'(

CODE
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2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glArrayObjectATI'.
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glVertexAttribArrayObjectATI'.
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glXGetCurrentDisplay'.
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glXQueryExtensionsString'.
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glXGetProcAddressARB'.
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Couldn't initialize mipmap generation
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Couldn't initialize GL_EXT_paletted_texture
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Couldn't initialize GL_NV_vertex_array_range
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Couldn't initialize GL_NV_fence
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Couldn't initialize separate specular color
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: Couldn't initialize anisotropic filtering
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z WARNING: Invalid control RenderUserFarClip
Mesa 6.4.2 implementation error: User called no-op dispatch function (an unsupported extension function?)
Please report at bugzilla.freedesktop.org
2006-04-27T06:18:18Z INFO: remove_marker_file()


From: Davey Callisto
Won't even start for me. Using 1.9.0.21

$ ./secondlife

I get a 10-20 seconds of what appears to be nothing happening followed by a load of messages about the different libaries loading ending in a load of failed/missing symbol errors:

CODE

...
see previous post


The client window appears for about 2 seconds and then disappears. In this time no log in box or splash screen are visible, just a blank looking gray window with a normal window border.

HP Compaq nx9005 laptop
1.67GHz AMD AthlonXP
768MB RAM
ATI Radeon 3200/Mobility (onboard) 32MB
OS: Ubuntu 5.10 (installed on hard disk)
Window manager: Gnome 2.12 (only default choice with Ubuntu)
kernel: 2.6.12-9-k7
Xorg: 6.8.2 (October 10th 2005 build)
Direct rendering: yes, using 'ati' driver
Sam Juergens
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Join date: 25 Aug 2005
Posts: 9
Complete lock up!
05-01-2006 23:22
When trying to play Slingo, first my mouse locked up then I the quit command froze everything! I had to anilate the window. Everything in Linux seems to work ok. It was just the Linux SL alpha version that locked up. I am running Ultima Linux version 8 sp1 which is based on slackware.
Darkside Eldrich
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Join date: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 200
05-02-2006 22:23
From: Sam Juergens
When trying to play Slingo, first my mouse locked up then I the quit command froze everything! I had to anilate the window. Everything in Linux seems to work ok.

Are you running any other intense OpenGL apps? Any other games? If they lock up like this too, I'd guess it's something in your 3d drivers...
Zepp Zaftig
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Posts: 470
05-03-2006 22:09
edit: the problem was a driver issue, I fixed it by changing various options.

It crashes 30-60 seconds after I start it. I use Ubuntu Dapper 64bit. It flashes a lot and there is a large amount of artifacts before it crashes. It behaves the same with both the 64bit gl drivers, and if I copy 32bit gl libraries in the SL lib directory.

OS: Linux 2.6.15-21-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Apr 21 16:42:20 UTC 2006 x86_64
GL_VENDOR NVIDIA Corporation
GL_RENDERER GeForce 6800/AGP/SSE2
GL_VERSION 2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.56

The last line before it crashes:
2006-05-04T05:02:08Z INFO: remove_marker_file()

The other errors I get are:
006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glNewObjectBufferATI' in '(default OpenGL library)
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glUpdateObjectBufferATI' in '(default OpenGL library)
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glFreeObjectBufferATI' in '(default OpenGL library)
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glArrayObjectATI' in '(default OpenGL library)
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Failed to find OpenGL symbol 'glVertexAttribArrayObjectATI' in '(default OpenGL library)
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glXGetCurrentDisplay'.
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glXQueryExtensionsString'.
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Loaded OpenGL symbol 'glXGetProcAddressARB'.
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Couldn't initialize mipmap generation
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Couldn't initialize GL_EXT_paletted_texture
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Couldn't initialize GL_NV_vertex_array_range
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Couldn't initialize GL_NV_fence
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Couldn't initialize separate specular color
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Couldn't initialize anisotropic filtering
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z WARNING: Unknown feature mask NVIDIA
2006-05-04T05:11:44Z INFO: Graphics Card memory set to 16 MB
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Hannibal Antonelli
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Kubuntu (KDE and Ubuntu) Runs flawlessly
05-06-2006 12:16
With the minor exceptions of a the well known issues, SL installed and is running flawlessly on my Kubuntu Linux system. Had nothing special to do at all. Downloaded, unpacked, ran the install script and then ran the game.

Lack of sound doesn't bother me very much, niether does playing windowed. The incorrect video memory is no issue really either. The graphics are sharper and faster on Kubuntu than on Windows. I really really really miss using the "alt" key for camera control and I miss walking with the "W" key. Otherwise, I'm not booting to Windoze for SL anymore.


-Ta
H.

Stats:
AMD 2200+ Processor
1 Gig or ram
NVidia 5500 video card with 1 gig of ramn.
Of course Kubuntu current
Angel Sunset
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05-06-2006 17:22
From: Zepp Zaftig
edit: the problem was a driver issue, I fixed it by changing various options.



I have a similar issue too... can you let us in on the "various options"?
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Tylor Drebin
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More of a tip I guess for full screen SL
05-12-2006 13:21
This is not really a bug, but more of a workaround for the full screen option not working.

In Ubuntu (YMMV), you can login using the failsafe terminal (not the failsafe gnome), and then nav to your SL folder and run the client in full screen (no borders etc), after setting the correct resolution in the client prior to login.

On the sound front.. It would seem to me that they would want to use OpenAL for the sound since it's all setup for spatialized sound... Seems a perfect fit.
Zepp Zaftig
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05-13-2006 03:30
From: Angel Sunset
I have a similar issue too... can you let us in on the "various options"?

It was an issue with nvidia drivers and xorg, if this doesn't work you can look at the nvidia linux forums. I added to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, under the device section:

Option "DPMS" "true"
Option "NvAGP" "1"

Then I disabled acpi in the bootloader menu, since I'm using grub that's /boot/grub/menu.lst, where to the line starting with "kernel /boot/vmlinuz " I added:

pci=noacpi
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Angel Sunset
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05-13-2006 03:37
Thanks! I will try that :D

I have seen a related problem on the NVidia forums, but so far aside from a lot of kind remarks, no direct solutions found, but then, some of the threads go back to 2004 and are so full of cross-topics :p

I will update this post with my results.
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Elishia Winnfield
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If its closed source it should stay that way.
05-13-2006 13:23
I've seen on this forum that some open source proponents feel the need to open source this product. I couldn't disagree more. I don't see how that is necessary. It would be nice to see a company create a product that is closed source on the Linux platform. It would be a good demonstration that commercial software companies can support Open Source without having to open source their work themselves. It should be the developers choice to open source. It shouldn't be dictated by the community.

As for this project... Has Linden labs looked into the Hal subsystem in Linux to get the rest working? This could be a way to get hardware detection working properly in Linux by detecting the hardware using the hal interface. That way you can detect the sound card settings and the configuration settings for the system properly. It could be beneficial to the Linux client.
Angel Sunset
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05-13-2006 14:41
HAL sounds like a great idea!

Any details on that for the uninitiated? How it would specifically be implemented here?

I am ALL in favour of SL being separated from the hw by a HAL; it helps keep a standard client, and a platform dependent part, separate from each other.

As for open sourcing: I think the only pragmatic plus that was perceived, is to make more resources available to SL to get the client 100% (excpt for a few who had ideological reasons).
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Darkside Eldrich
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05-13-2006 20:02
From: Elishia Winnfield
It would be nice to see a company create a product that is closed source on the Linux platform. It would be a good demonstration that commercial software companies can support Open Source without having to open source their work themselves.

Hasn't this already been done many times over? Here's a few examples:

Games: Everything from Id (Doom*, Quake*), the UT series, Savage & Savage 2, Neverwinter Nights

Non-games: SL, Maya Lightwave, Maple, TeamSpeak (I think?), the Java runtime & development environments

From: someone
It should be the developers choice to open source. It shouldn't be dictated by the community.

Agreed!

Personally, I'd like to see the SL network protocol opened. If it's robust, it should be fairly impervious to abuse (well, it's going to be as vulnerable open as it is closed, right?) and could allow some fairly innovative features. Here's one of many possibilities:

An SL IM client that logs you in & TPs you to your home, then simply relays IMs and local chat. We could add this functionality to gaim, and you could just do an SL chat log in. Good for hopping in to talk from machines that can't run the full game.

Note: this is off-topic for this thread. If we're going to have yet another open-sourcing discussion, we should probably make a new thread for it. We're definitely not talking about a known bug anymore :P
Angel Sunset
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Lockups in X
05-20-2006 14:54
I had occasional lockups in X using fvwm, and KDE would not even start properly.

It turns out that my hardware / Linux combination had a "speed" problem.

Recompiling the nvidia driver after changing the speed in the driver source to AGP 4x, and so on (in the README, section F I think), and recompiling it, the problem is gone completely.

That's what I get for putting a Very Fast Card on a last generation Motherboard :D
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