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"Aimee Weber", and "Cubey Terra" are not brands. Therefore, these "analyses" were nothing less than defamatory personal attacks.

Re: What is incitement, what is disrespect etc etc etc

Does anyone attend meetings at their workplace among co-workers and supervisors and require such definitions before speaking? Are the conduct guidelines in our employee manuals really more defined than the TOS and CS?

Do we ask such questions before sitting in a classroom? Are the conduct guidelines in a college catalog substantially more detailed than what we are presented with here?

Do we ask such questions prior to standing on line at a supermarket, climbing onto a bus, or sitting in Burger King?

The lessons which teach us these things, be they written or not, would have been given to most of us 8 or 10 years before we became eligible to sign up for Second Life.

Where anyone ever got the idea that we leave common civility on the RL side of the login prompt is beyond my thinking.

Here's the story: Prok made an interesting analysis of brand name identity using "Cubey Terra" and "Aimee Weber." He was basically correct on all the things which we commonly associate with such names. None of it was particularly flattering; none of it was particularly any sort of "attack." I don't expect most of you to realize that, though.

The individuals in question, or their friends, took offense. Enabran appealed to the Linden Hotline. People talked to Lindens in talk chat. This, probably combined with numerous post reportings of Prok's posts, ended up with him banned permanently from the forums.

This means that you will no longer have Prok to fight with. You will also learn nothing from what Prok might have said. You have succeeded in getting rid of Prok. Despite the fact that the things said to him were invariably far more horrible than any of his theorizing and pontificating EVER were.

What is one's defense against getting your posts reported as "offensive" or "attacks"? Reporting other people oneself? Should we all get into a big reporting war? I remember BEGGING Pathfinder one time to kindly look up my ISP or IP or whatever it is to prove that I was not an alt, for someone ANYONE to put an end to the misery people dealt out to me, in so many flavors. Never have I been subjected to such nasty treatment, never in my life. Nothing, nothing, nothing was ever done in my case. Course, I didn't REPORT people either. That's probably key.

And guess what - I never will. So if you want me to get banned, or even banned from the entire game, I invite you to report THIS POST. This one, as being divisive, as "trolling," as being a "wanna-be troll," and all those horrible things I have ever been called which are simply not true (ask anyone else on any other forum I am or have ever been on). While you are at it, mention that I attacked everyone I named in this post.

Report it BUNCHES, y'all. Then you will have the power not only to get me to shut UP, but your power will reach out even to the game. Pretty dang soon you will have nobody else in the dang game but you, you, you, you, and those who YOU happen to like. The unpopular kids in class not only will not get to speak up, they'll even be kicked out of school entirely.

I have already lived through this mistake Jeska and the others are currently in the big middle of making. In TSO, the boards used to have the same policy: We don't like what you say here, and bam - you can no longer play the game. Gone were that person's investment, gone was their money, their skills, their everything.

Present was FEAR.

When the boards moved over to Stratics, people were no longer worried about losing their heads. And no, it didn't go all to hell without the threat of losing your GAME along with your board posting privileges. On the other hand, on that board, people weren't ALLOWED to call others alts, trolls, wannabe trolls, bedazzled followers, mental cases, lunatics, ALL the things, you guys can name them all, along with revealing rl information. That was NEVER allowed on the other board. I couldn't believe it when I got here and got beaten up.

The problem here has been not just enforcement, but any kind of reasonable enforcement. Fair enforcement. Was there ever any enforcement against what was said about me? No. About Catherine? Not that I know of. But let a certain group of folks get together and hound another poster, and lookie there, he's gone. Congrats, folks. Hope you're damn proud of yourselves. This has been so good for the community, has it not?

I realize that people like me are NOT in the community, and never will be (despite that I am a pillar of every other community I am in or have ever been in), so the fact that I'm distressed doesn't matter one bit, now does it. But I actually think this new idea is really an excellent one. Because then you, too, will live in fear of losing NOT ONLY YOUR POSTING PRIVILEGES, but your ACCOUNT AS WELL.

Course, that shouldn't be much of a problem for those who really don't think a lot, and don't criticize much of anything, and never looks cross-eyed at anyone for any reason. Also it isn't much of a problem for people who don't post at all - or post honestly, or bother to even be in the conversation. When this sort of power is wielded by a few - and I DO MEAN A FEW - handful of individuals, there is no point in even having a forum. Let's just let those who are causing all this have it. Maybe they'll turn on each other.

Hey, I was called a troll by Weedy just the other day. Maybe I should get on Weedy's case - start alerting every post s/he ever makes. Get a few of my friends, too - probably are more than just me who may not be best friends with Weedy. Maybe we could even enjoy the great power of preventing that individual from playing the game entirely!

Now I wouldn't do that, I never will. I'd rather never post here again OR even play the game again than I would want to report people's posts for every little reason. So report me to death, guys, you can take away my right to play the game!

Wait and see, folks. This tying the boards thing with the game isn't a good idea, and wasn't a good idea when TSO did it.

And remember - (this is my favorite part!) - you brought this on yourselves. How appropriate that you should be cheering now. I hope it comes back to bite you on the butt. Do you think all those who hated the TSO policy of having your game tied to the boards were all weirdos? No. Reasonable people lived in fear.

And of the ones of us who are NOT popular with the in crowd, which of us will be next?

And why is it that on these boards, since the beginning, I've always cautioned about who will be next? It's a bad thing if I have to keep doing that.

coco

Prok was banned?

Coco I of all ppl understand exactly what your saying. Hugz you tight, wow I don't know what else to say now, I'm floored.

Cat

Cubey Terra is a clear brand. He sells his products under his name. Aimee's brand is called *preen*.

What do you call all that crap I went through Nolan?

Oh, wait, yeah . . . that was OKAY wasn't it.

What do you call outing a person's gender, occupation, location, and a bunch of other stuff that isn't even accurate?

Oh yeah, wait . . . that is stuff that warrants an "informal warning."

All that is OKAY because it was, after all, just Prok, the one you just love to hate, and me, who came in and made the HORRIBLE MISTAKE OF BEING HIS FRIEND in another game.

But . . . you wouldn't call ANY OF THAT A PERSONAL ATTACK, would you. Course not. After all, let's not forget, just two months ago, no one would even accept that I was a person, so how could it be a personal attack?

And you think there is no favoritism.

Just keep it up, guys. Just keep it up. Pretty soon you will have only your own sorry selves to entertain you.

coco

There's nothing in the blotter - and he's in world.

What do you call all that crap I went through Nolan?

What do you call all that crap I went through Nolan?

Oh, wait, yeah . . . that was OKAY wasn't it.

What do you call outing a person's gender, occupation, location, and a bunch of other stuff that isn't even accurate?

Oh yeah, wait . . . that is stuff that warrants an "informal warning."

All that is OKAY because it was, after all, just Prok, the one you just love to hate, and me, who came in and made the HORRIBLE MISTAKE OF BEING HIS FRIEND in another game.

But . . . you wouldn't call ANY OF THAT A PERSONAL ATTACK, would you. Course not. After all, let's not forget, just two months ago, no one would even accept that I was a person, so how could it be a personal attack?

And you think there is no favoritism.

Just keep it up, guys. Just keep it up. Pretty soon you will have only your own sorry selves to entertain you.

coco

The individuals in question, or their friends, took offense. Enabran appealed to the Linden Hotline. People talked to Lindens in talk chat. This, probably combined with numerous post reportings of Prok's posts, ended up with him banned permanently from the forums.

This means that you will no longer have Prok to fight with. You will also learn nothing from what Prok might have said. You have succeeded in getting rid of Prok. Despite the fact that the things said to him were invariably far more horrible than any of his theorizing and pontificating EVER were. .......<snipped the rest>...

Everyone has their bad days and lashes out in an uncalled for way now and then. We'll all need to work on that. But in the two years I've been reading these forums no one has gone so far out of their way to do it in every thread they ever participated in... except one person.

What do you call all that crap I went through Nolan?

Oh, wait, yeah . . . that was OKAY wasn't it.

What do you call outing a person's gender, occupation, location, and a bunch of other stuff that isn't even accurate?

Oh yeah, wait . . . that is stuff that warrants an "informal warning."

All that is OKAY because it was, after all, just Prok, the one you just love to hate, and me, who came in and made the HORRIBLE MISTAKE OF BEING HIS FRIEND in another game.

But . . . you wouldn't call ANY OF THAT A PERSONAL ATTACK, would you. Course not. After all, let's not forget, just two months ago, no one would even accept that I was a person, so how could it be a personal attack?

And you think there is no favoritism.

Just keep it up, guys. Just keep it up. Pretty soon you will have only your own sorry selves to entertain you.

coco

I didn't know you believed in the myth of the FIC Dianne. You state above you think some will be punished but others will not be (under the same policies). Why do you think that?

The individuals in question, or their friends, took offense. Enabran appealed to the Linden Hotline. People talked to Lindens in talk chat. This, probably combined with numerous post reportings of Prok's posts, ended up with him banned permanently from the forums.