Feted Inner Core Issue: Your opinion?

Nah I figured it out, I was just trying to get Blaze to confirm it.

And you are one of the largest contributors to making them useless. Give yourself a hand.

I agree with Cris on this one. I stated my own thought on this exact thing a bit farther back in this thread. Cris worded it better than I did, though the concept is the same. And it scares me whenever I see posts about Coco that make me feel this way.

At the same time, I agree that Coco should not be punished for this *if* it were true. Even if she is cut and pasting notecards from in world, she would be doing so with permission from the person who gave them to her, and there is no TOS violation in that.

I also don't think Prok should be punished if this is true also. Because he is just using the currently available tools. Again this is *if* this is happening. And gadz it's frighting how much it seems it is.

Of course, this all leads to a great reason why I am so supportive of the new forum Policy. Banned on the forums, banned in world.

Well I dono. If the Lindens have some kind of policy about dealing with people who try to circumvent a forum permaban...it should certainly be carried out here (again, IF it's true). Maybe that policy is nothing, maybe it's harsh punishment...but it certainly applies.

There are laws against facilitating crime in RL (called abetting), why not here? Both should be punished, one for violating parole and the other for aiding and abetting.

~Ulrika~

Aimee - it is not true.

coco

Yeah, it's tough. I mean on one hand, Prok is so obviously banned. On other, what if you post for someone who you don't realise is banned?

Perhaps the TOS should be clarified to not post for other people.

Well, I think we should have enough respect for you Coco to leave the discussion off at this.

I just want to say I really enjoy the positive energy that you bring to these forums.

Well, I think the point wasb't so much that it was true but rather that Prok shouldn't be allowed to subvert the ban. That's why the original bit about not using alts was added to the TOS, I think.

It is not true, and Prok is not subverting the ban.

coco

Can someone post a pointer to a post where they think coco is 'Talking like Prok?"

I do a bit of textual analysis myself and I have never noticed it although I don't habitually read coco's posts that much. (sorry coco)

The "voices" are quite different to my ears.
One is all worry and rushed, impetuous thoughts while the other is all anger and blinkered determination. (That ain't an insult cause you don't know which is which [much] ) In fact, they are so different, it should be obvious if they are both present in the same post.

There must be a serious practitioner of textual analysis in the audience?
We could settle it once and for all.



Disclaimer: I am not in any way suggesting that people gang up on poor coco or that it's okay to investigate her or the details of her private life etc. Just that a claim has been made and it appears that the tools to determiine the truth of said claim do in fact exist.

Edit: It should be obvious, but I just wanted a pointer to a post. To discuss the issue at length and publicly (like in the forums here), probably amounts to a personal attack.

What Blaze said.

And I am not accusing you. At most I agreed with Cris about a change in the way you have posted. But I have been very careful not to spread around statements like "Coco is posting notecards from Prok". I emphasize the word "IF" every single time to make it clear that none of this is known.

And I would still love to know why you are going around saying that I am trying to get you out of the game when my statements say EXACTLY the opposite.

Well, I think people are bit surprised that Coconaut has continued to 'carry the torch' so to speak for Prokofy in such an enthusiastic way.

However, I think that's just her defending a friend she cares about.

I think we don't want to focus too much on this individual accusation but rather ensure that an important policy (subverting the ban) doesn't get contravened .. because the individual in question incited a lot of anger, divisiveness and hate in these forums which was really detrimental to all concerned.

Would you really admit it?

Let me just predict how this is going to go regarding her claim that I want to get her kicked out of the game. After this running sore of a debate goes into its 5th week, Coco will revisit this claim by embedding it in a bulleted list of crimes against her.

...
6. Cristiano blaa blaa blaa
7. Pathfinder blaa blaa blaa
8. Aimee wanted to kick me out of the game by claiming I was posting Prok's notecards.
9. blaa blaa blaa
10. blaa blaa blaa

I will deny it. Coco will insist it is truth. I will demand proof. Coco will ignore me saying that I know perfectly well that the proof is in the forums.

Then I will prove that Coco was lying about me by finding my original post and hers. She will then say "AIMEE you are being too LITERAL! No you didn't actually SAY you wanted to kick me out of the game...but your posts were a signal to emolden and unify the FIC against me. You use subtle signals that your FIC goons recognize and obey".

There. I just saved you the trouble. Man, SL's Fifth Column has this down to a science.

Ahh, I wouldn't worry. If this happens, we'll all back you up.

Aimee,

I have been meaning to ask you - what is the Fifth Column?

Coco,

A part of me wants to stay silent over this issue. But I know how you feel about honesty and hypocrisy. So here I go.

Way before this was brought up on the board, I noticed a sometimes change in your writing style. It was a very curious thing. Even in this thread you can see the changes. When you write :



Things like "Details remain to be seen and discussed, but basically, the problem has been corrected." The format is different from the P.S. Which is written in what looks like to me to be your normal style.

I'm sorry if this offends you, but it is two completely different writing styles. I don't know if you do it on purpose but I can understand some people's confusion.

It may just be the first part was written after long hard consideration. If so, I apologize for even pointing it out.

But the only reason I really brought this up is that while this might be all your writing, isn't it frustrating to be thought of as something different?

In that same manner, can you understand how the Lindens must feel to make a decision based on one thing, getting the best people for the job, and then be accused of playing favorites?

Can you see how something can appear to be one thing when it's not?

I was once falsely accused of committing an act (if you PM me, I'lll tell you about it), but it has changed how I see others who say they have been falsely accused.

HAHAHAHAHA. Basically it refers to enemies of a nation that try to defeat that nation by eroding its infrastructure from the inside rather than facing it head on. Here is a wiki for the term:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column

Thank you - providing its definition via wiki is especially apropos.

Not you, Aimee. I thought that would be clear. I know that you stated that in no uncertain terms, I should not be punished. And someone else stated that neither should be punished. If it were true, which it is not. I thought I was clear in my "two-fer" that I was referring to those who thought both should be punished.

I will try to be more clear in future.

coco

Yes. To improve clarity, don't address someone and then immediately make claims that you internally mean to apply to others. Here is your full quote:

"Interesting, Aimee. This must be a twofer. Get me for being him (and also get me out of the game) and get him out of the game, too, for talking through me."

Did you see the mini-series V? It was about aliens who were raiding Earth by stealing water and harvesting humans for food while fooling everyone by playing nice with the politics? There was a group of rebels fighting them and they were aided by the Fifth Columnist of alien's who didn't like what the other aliens were doing. I always think of them when I hear the phrase Fifth Column.

I know, Aimee, and I'm sorry. I think of you - however possibly misguidedly - as a friend. And this thread is hard to keep up with for me. I'm still two pages behind.

coco

P.S. (reading along now) Blaze is incorrect. I don't stick up for a friend here, or in this poll. I stick up for equal opportunity for all, without appearances of favoritism, which is good for us, the Lindens, and SL.