Anti-Intellectual Lobbying

I have a question for the folks who strongly support a player-run democracy. Is your position based on the love of democracy itself, or the belief that a democratic system, if established in SL, would likely support your own political positions?

Example: Currently the Lindens allow us nearly unlimited freedom of speech. Would you continue to advocate and support a democratic government in SL if it actually seemed likely that the majority would vote to abolish discussion of Evolution, Abortion, Anti-Religious speech and Anti-American speech? If protection from these discussions were proposed in a Bill of Rights?

Given the progressive nature of our current user-base, this scenario seems unthinkable (and for now it most likely is). But looking at U.S. voting trends, recent gubernatorial, congressional, and of course presidential elections, it doesn't seem impossible to me.

I'm visualizing certain members of large, highly active religious organizations like the Southern Baptists catching wind of Second Life. Seeing the powerful out-reach potential (and tremendous number of people that need saving ), they begin to establish Bible study groups and advertise SL as a great way to find fellow Christians around the world. (**ADDED) Where I as going with this is, certain movements outside of SL could result in a rapid change in the political or religious demographic in SL.

Personally I think this is a hypothetical. I wouldn't want to scare (or encourage!) anybody into a particluar position. I am just curious where most people stand on this. Is it the democracy you want, or is it what you believe the democracy will give us?

Pfft. Why didn't I see this BEFORE I posted my question!

Following on from my last post, I'm also anti conceitedness and anti people that wish to ensure that everything they participate in is done on "their" basis or not at all. That's divisive as well.

I figured it out i am Anti-anti. I am against people who are against things which makes me against myself cause i am against againsters.

This question is good enough to be its own thread.

Personally, I support as an imperative all inalienable rights that maximize freedom provided that freedom does not interfere with another's freedom. (Inalienable rights are the foundation from which all laws should be built.) From a Kantian perspective, wanting a system which serves oneself is inherently immoral. I do not want this.

I could go on for pages but I have an appointment with my pediatrician now.

~Ulrika~

A sure fire way to get ppl to see your political views is to start off by insulting groups of ppl. The most humorous part of this is the insults were about intelligence LOL.

Someone said this would not end well, IMO it ended with the first post.

Cat

If it aint broken broken why fix it?

Basically, Aimee, Ulrika was trolling the board.

I guess you got what you wanted, Ulrika. People arguing with each other.

Oh and btw, it's against basic forum policy to troll. To whit:



Perhaps I should complain to Mommy and Daddy Linden.

Historically, all truly exceptional people have always been cruxified, one way or another, by the moronic masses of ignorant face stuffing waste of skins who refer to themselves as society.

there! I hope I didn't insult anyone here... just the fact that everyone here at least knows how to turn a PC on puts us in the right box... so prepare to be cruxified...

I can give some examples: Hitler, Huesain, bin-ladin, etc.

Who's "Huesain"?

~Ulrika~

You really are nothing other than a troll, aren't you?

lol I spelled it that way so I would get a response from a so called "Intellectual". Of couse you the "intellectual" would rather try and show yourself as better than I by poking fun at a mispelled word. This just is an example of how pre-occupied you are with yourself and how you feel the need to show the world that you are smarter than someone else. Whats wrong are you not getting enough attention at home? lol

I believe this to be so and it's a violation of the TOS for the forum.



Careful, Jack. You might get reported for abuse.

If you think the thread was started as a deliberate attempt to create a pointless hostile series of messages stemming from the belief that the word "anti-intellectual" would be taken by many to mean "stupid", thus giving the thread starter the opportunity to correct people and revel in the fact that those who don't support the policies she endorses don't even know the correct meaning of the word "anti-intellectual", use the bad post icon in the initial post of the thread to report the post as a bad post.

I didn't know about the "bad post" thing. I have availed myself of it.

I'm unhappy to take such an action, but it seems to be part of the program.

yes --But Ulrika knew that was what were you doing, so she very cleverly pointed out your spelling "mistake" knowing full well that you were employing a ruse, and in so doing caused you to respond in this thread yet again!

This is probably the best post regarding all this Bill of Rights, democracy threads. I am sorry that it will get unnoticed in this jungle of meaningless posts in this thread. But I think this is such an important point that really is at the core of the context to discuss what really people want and why we should treat SL differently then the false ideals of RL, which are clearly failing some us, intellectual or anti-intellectual. Thanks for posting this Aimee.

I noticed it! I thought it was a good post! Though I agree with Ulrika, Aimee's post was good enough to deserve a thread of its own.

Let me tell you the story of the soccer moms. About ten years ago I used to be able to drive home down the side streets to my home in chicago in 5 mins. Until one day there was an accident at one of the cross streets. The following week a group of "nothing else to do but make the world better as they see it" soccer moms peitioned to have every street have a stop sign on this 1 mile strectch. Of course they got there way and now it has doubled the travel time and depending on traffic sometimes trippled. Now I figure the people who spend the most time in SL are the soccer moms, the unemployed, and the college student. These are the people who will be running the government in SL. I believe that these people will push thier agenda out of bordem and trying to find a feeling of selfworth regardless of how it affects the masses. I am not a hater of these groups (i.e. formaly a college student and formaly unemployed though I have never been a soccer mom but some are hotties ). I just believe that a game is meant to be fun and not to be ruled, governed and debilitated by barriers put forth through the use of politics.

Yup. It's the kind of question that could keep a college-level philosophy class occupied for a week.

I could actually write a small novel on the subject starting with morality (beginning with Kantian underpinnings, moving to Utilitarianism, and closing with Modern Feminism) as applied to freedom, laws, and political systems in general.

It would probably have to be posted in the Polisci forum to get a decent treatment though.

~Ulrika~

What's "thier" mean?

~Ulrika~

sorry guess i never watched that charlie brown special. lol

Ay yi yi. The word overmatched comes to mind.

biggest piece of mysogynist tripe I've seen in a while.