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Ilianexsi Sojourner

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07-07-2005 08:53

Big hugs to all our members in Britain.... thinking of & praying for you all, as are so many others. Things like this completely mystify me.... I don't understand how these terrorists can murder so many people without a second thought. I wish it was possible for people to live in peace with each other.... I really wish it was. I know it's not. It really saddens me that this sort of thing is so common.

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Alexa Hope

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07-07-2005 08:53

Thank you to all my American friends who have been checking with me today. It is heartening to read your warm wishes on here too.

We will recover and be stronger than before.

If anyone is interested, Prokofy has arranged an event for 10am PST to talk about the attacks. If you check the events page you will see it there. I hope any who may be interested in going, can put aside any differences with Prokofy you may have and we can come together united. The landmark is Derwent (215,24)

Hope to see you there.

Alexa

Rose Karuna

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07-07-2005 08:54

From: Reitsuki Kojima

Lets not give the terrorist bastards more 'praise' than they 'earned'. The british economy was pricked, it bled a bit, but it was hardly "brought ot it's knees". It will recover. Like everyone is saying, you aren't going to get to the the British that easily.

True - more like it was their unsuccessful intention to do this. Tell you what though, I had only given passing thought to attending the Olympics in London when I heard they were to be held there yesterday. Now, I'm planning my trip.

It's my individual insignificant way of telling my friends across the pond that you have my support and of telling people who would murder innocents like this - "FUCK YOU".

/*** Hugs to my friends across the pond

Rose

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Nisa Stravinsky

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07-07-2005 08:57

From: Nimue Galatea

Hmm. Why do I smell Bush in everything evil

Why blame Bush? He's not the one that set the bombs off. Let that go for now, we just need to show solidarity for our friends and loved ones across the pond.

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Xtopherxaos Ixtab

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07-07-2005 09:04

Thanks Nisa...I wanted to blast, but was holding my tongue out of respect...

Thank god I haven't heard of any of my friends or SLer's being harmed, I'm still beside myself, though...half of me wants to make the middle-east a giant glass ocean (wrong, I know), and the other half is just wishing I was still asleep...

Stymied Ennui

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07-07-2005 09:08

I just heard that one of my local high schools is on a trip in London and was in the area. Thank god they just reported all the students are safe.

I would like to send my thoughts and wishes to anyone in the London area, anyone who has family there, or has friends there. I am from the USA, but we are united in the effort to get through this and become stronger.

Maxx Monde

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07-07-2005 09:11

BoingBoing (blogging site) has posted a link with phonecam snaps and other related materials to the London attacks.

Photos related to London bombings, blog coverage, and Wikipedia.

Also has ongoing blog links as well covering the events and aftermath.

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Blayze Raine

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07-07-2005 09:17

From: Nisa Stravinsky

Why blame Bush? He's not the one that set the bombs off. Let that go for now, we just need to show solidarity for our friends and loved ones across the pond.

Ty Nisa.

Has any reliable information come out about who is actually responsible for the attacks besides the group that tried to claim it earlier?

Robin Linden

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07-07-2005 09:17

We've set up a place in Fame (121,115) to build a memorial. A couple of residents are scheduling candlelight vigils for the Londoners who have been affected. Please come by and contribute to the memorial as you have time, or plan to attend one of the vigils. The first one is scheduled today at noon Pacific, second one for 6PM Pacific.

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Agatha Palmerstone

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07-07-2005 09:18

From: Jsecure Hanks

Yep, first comes the hit, then they vaguely try to claim they were responsible. For this wonderfully, powerfully thought out crime? No.

For a few guys living in one bedroom flats in a damp, rotten pit in London, wasting their days trying to make home made bombs, then finally chancing their hand and putting them on our tube trains. For a few brainless twits trying to make out like they are an 'organisation'.

These idiots may have made us late for our meetings today, but let's not kid ourselves. Al Quaeda are not responsible. They are just a few ragtag individuals running scared in cities around the world, who sometimes get a bomb or two off.

Nobody cares. And they're not big, or hard, or clever. Just kind of sad, very small, pathetic, disorganised, stupid. Even the Islamists look on them with disgust.

Claiming responsibility... Don't make me laugh, they couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. Some loners in London got a bit lucky with some home made kit, and a few died as a result. But they haven't even come close to shaking up this nation. Nah, we're a LOT bigger and better than that.

Well said. Terrorists suck, and they're a sad and f'd up lot. Let's not make them out to be more than they are, or it helps them get what they want.

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Cristiano Midnight

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07-07-2005 09:18

London is one of my favorite cities in the world, so this really saddens me. My support and condolences go out to the people of England during this senseless tragedy.

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Reitsuki Kojima

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07-07-2005 09:24

From: Blayze Raine

Ty Nisa.

Has any reliable information come out about who is actually responsible for the attacks besides the group that tried to claim it earlier?

Still just the same claims. Quoting from a news site, this is apparently their statement:

"The heroic mujahidin have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror, and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters."

Mother F---ers.

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Pendari Lorentz

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07-07-2005 09:24

Thank you for the links and updates everyone!

Red Mars

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07-07-2005 09:30

From: Totally Barmy

My heart goes out to anyone affected by the needless violence of todays tragedy.

But before we ourselves get all extremist I believe it should be remembered the people who do this have an extraordinary motivation to hate the our greedy, self obsessed, morally bankrupt society ( as seen through their eyes ). Our own governments had no qualms about killing an estimated 300,000+ ( innocent ? ) civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan recently. Our own governments are about to FAIL to do anything about world debt in the G8 conference while our own corporations rape and pillage land and resources and some us still wonder why the rest of the world hates us so much. These atrocities will never stop until we are willing lead by example and show that we care about all the worlds people more than making money and profit for our own minority. No amount of rhetoric about terrorism can right the wrongs our own culture is inflicting on the poorer majority of the world, this is not simply about religion vs religion or opinion vs opinion it's about real and perhaps justified hate and resentment.

I am not in any way condoning the awful, terrible acts that these criminal people do any more than I condone us going to wars that end up making things worse. It's time for us to wake up and start to change the way we treat the rest of the world, all it needs is less greed and more moral responsibility.

Typical apologist

"Gee that's really bad that that happened, but hey, you were asking for it"

Comments like this make me sick

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blaze Spinnaker

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07-07-2005 09:39

The problem all has to do with OIL.

If we weren't addicted to OIL, we wouldn't be in saudi arabia .. foreign troops on holy soil.

Unfortuantely, they've got OIL so we're over there and they are angry with us. So they hit us and we hit back harder and they hit us even harder, etc etc.

The solution, really, is not to democratize these people (you don't democratize people, they democratize themselves) but rather to break our dependency on oil and thus our need to be there.

Unfortunately, special interest groups, such as big oil companies, have a lot lobbying power in washington which means we get elected a president who fights for their interests and maintains the addiction.

It's all freaking sad.

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07-07-2005 09:40

From: Red Mars

Typical apologist

"Gee that's really bad that that happened, but hey, you were asking for it"

Comments like this make me sick

I'm so glad you took the time to read and repeat what I said, it might make you think a little about the situation in the world that has led to these events today. I am almost as deeply saddened by many of the ignorant "don't understand why" comments and right wing flag waving bigotry in this forum as I am by the terrible events of the day. And I speak as a Londoner. Not all us "Brits" are knee jerk flag waving nationalists some us have a few brain cells. It's not like this is the first time it's happened here. We all get up and carry on because we have to and NOT because wer'e Brits.

blaze Spinnaker

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07-07-2005 09:41

Oh, gimme a break. Thousands of innocent people are getting killed in IRAQ and you here dick all about it except some # each day that no one cares about.

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

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Reitsuki Kojima

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07-07-2005 09:47

Not the time or the place for this, people.

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Xtopherxaos Ixtab

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07-07-2005 09:48

From: Totally Barmy

I'm so glad you took the time to read and repeat what I said, it might make you think a little about the situation in the world that has led to these events today.

Dude, It's not that you are wrong...It's that there are hurt and dead people, and you are basically standing there shouting, "See, I told you so!". Jump off your friggin' political rhetoric machine for just one afternoon.

blaze Spinnaker

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07-07-2005 09:50

Yes, this is a terrible incident. But to point the finger at the terrorists is just going to lead to more of these terrible incidents.

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Colette Meiji

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07-07-2005 09:50

I think the Muslim Fundamentalist terrorists will keep making strikes like this until 1 of two things happens.

1.) All Foriegn powers leave all Muslim countries.
2.) People in the countries which give rise to Militant Fundamentalists stop them.

If case 1 were to begine to happen, the resulting Civil wars and coups the Fundamentalists would wage as they attempted to take over those countries would be far more deadly and vicious then any war we have seen in the Mid-East to this point.

The resulting Fundamentalist governements would be extremely hostile and argumentative, and in control of a lion's share of the Worlds Oil. THey most certainly be oppressive and brutal to their own people.

There is no doubt Isreal would be destroyed.

We would have a series of Islamic States modeled after the Iranian theocracy. Either the new regimes would then kill each other in bloody wars, or they would look for a new enemy bordering Islamic mid-east. Governments instituted by fanatics and killers tend to do that.

I think the goal of fighting the terrorists now is along the lines of the second choice. However me may disagree with HOW its being accomplished, the end result is, somehow, the people of the Middle East need to stop The fundamentalists.

I beleive the US and Brittain and other are attempting to help them. Its very possible its being gone about the wrong way. But the solutions are not easy.

Its naive to think that if all foriegn countries left the Middle East that somehow the people there would no longer suffer.

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07-07-2005 09:50

From: Totally Barmy

I'm so glad you took the time to read and repeat what I said, it might make you think a little about the situation in the world that has led to these events today. I am almost as deeply saddened by many of the ignorant "don't understand why" comments and right wing flag waving bigotry in this forum as I am by the terrible events of the day. And I speak as a Londoner. Not all us "Brits" are knee jerk flag waving nationalists some us have a few brain cells. It's not like this is the first time it's happened here. We all get up and carry on because we have to and NOT because wer'e Brits.

I'm not sure what I hate more, ignorance or arrogance.

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07-07-2005 09:52

Thanks for the updates and info, I just got up and didnt know till I came to the forums.

Fead the cowards to the sharks!!

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Billy Grace

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07-07-2005 09:53

TAKE THE POLITICAL CRAP ELSEWHERE. Start your own friggin thread and have a little respect decency for this one, which is NOT about politics but a horrific tragedy!!!!!

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Reitsuki Kojima

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07-07-2005 09:53

From: blaze Spinnaker

Yes, this is a terrible incident. But to point the finger at the terrorists is just going to lead to more of these terrible incidents.

Blaming the terrorists for something the terrorists did is going to cause the terrorists to do more of the things the terrorists did.

Stellar logic there, Blaze.

I repeat, it's not the time or the place for this.

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Ilianexsi Sojourner Chick with Horns Join date: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 1,707	07-07-2005 08:53 Big hugs to all our members in Britain.... thinking of & praying for you all, as are so many others. Things like this completely mystify me.... I don't understand how these terrorists can murder so many people without a second thought. I wish it was possible for people to live in peace with each other.... I really wish it was. I know it's not. It really saddens me that this sort of thing is so common. _____________________ Everything's impossible,'till it ain't. --Ben Hawkins, Carnivale Help build a Utopian Playland-- www.doctorsteel.com. Music, robots, fun times!
Alexa Hope Registered User Join date: 8 Dec 2004 Posts: 670	07-07-2005 08:53 Thank you to all my American friends who have been checking with me today. It is heartening to read your warm wishes on here too. We will recover and be stronger than before. If anyone is interested, Prokofy has arranged an event for 10am PST to talk about the attacks. If you check the events page you will see it there. I hope any who may be interested in going, can put aside any differences with Prokofy you may have and we can come together united. The landmark is Derwent (215,24) Hope to see you there. Alexa
Rose Karuna Lizard Doctor Join date: 5 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,772	07-07-2005 08:54 From: Reitsuki Kojima Lets not give the terrorist bastards more 'praise' than they 'earned'. The british economy was pricked, it bled a bit, but it was hardly "brought ot it's knees". It will recover. Like everyone is saying, you aren't going to get to the the British that easily. True - more like it was their unsuccessful intention to do this. Tell you what though, I had only given passing thought to attending the Olympics in London when I heard they were to be held there yesterday. Now, I'm planning my trip. It's my individual insignificant way of telling my friends across the pond that you have my support and of telling people who would murder innocents like this - "FUCK YOU". /*** Hugs to my friends across the pond Rose _____________________ I Do Whatever My Rice Krispies Tell Me To
Nisa Stravinsky Danger Mouse Join date: 16 Sep 2004 Posts: 1,238	07-07-2005 08:57 From: Nimue Galatea Hmm. Why do I smell Bush in everything evil Why blame Bush? He's not the one that set the bombs off. Let that go for now, we just need to show solidarity for our friends and loved ones across the pond. _____________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. Will you leave me breathless?" "I'm beginning to think the human psyche enjoys victimizing itself. " - Sezmra Svarog "Film critics said I gave a voice to the fear we all have: that we'll reach a certain point in our lives, look around and realize that all the things we said we'd do and become will never come to be -- and that we're ordinary." - Anne Bancroft (2003)
Xtopherxaos Ixtab D- in English Join date: 7 Oct 2004 Posts: 884	07-07-2005 09:04 Thanks Nisa...I wanted to blast, but was holding my tongue out of respect... Thank god I haven't heard of any of my friends or SLer's being harmed, I'm still beside myself, though...half of me wants to make the middle-east a giant glass ocean (wrong, I know), and the other half is just wishing I was still asleep...
Stymied Ennui Real Life Custom T-Shirts Join date: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 85	07-07-2005 09:08 I just heard that one of my local high schools is on a trip in London and was in the area. Thank god they just reported all the students are safe. I would like to send my thoughts and wishes to anyone in the London area, anyone who has family there, or has friends there. I am from the USA, but we are united in the effort to get through this and become stronger.
Maxx Monde Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,848	07-07-2005 09:11 BoingBoing (blogging site) has posted a link with phonecam snaps and other related materials to the London attacks. Photos related to London bombings, blog coverage, and Wikipedia. Also has ongoing blog links as well covering the events and aftermath. _____________________ Opensim Tutorial - http://opensimuser.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/opensim-install-and-configuration-tutorial/ Run your own simulator on your personal machine!
Blayze Raine Renegade Join date: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 407	07-07-2005 09:17 From: Nisa Stravinsky Why blame Bush? He's not the one that set the bombs off. Let that go for now, we just need to show solidarity for our friends and loved ones across the pond. Ty Nisa. Has any reliable information come out about who is actually responsible for the attacks besides the group that tried to claim it earlier?
Robin Linden Linden Lifer Join date: 25 Nov 2002 Posts: 1,224	07-07-2005 09:17 We've set up a place in Fame (121,115) to build a memorial. A couple of residents are scheduling candlelight vigils for the Londoners who have been affected. Please come by and contribute to the memorial as you have time, or plan to attend one of the vigils. The first one is scheduled today at noon Pacific, second one for 6PM Pacific. _____________________
Agatha Palmerstone Space Girl Join date: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 185	07-07-2005 09:18 From: Jsecure Hanks Yep, first comes the hit, then they vaguely try to claim they were responsible. For this wonderfully, powerfully thought out crime? No. For a few guys living in one bedroom flats in a damp, rotten pit in London, wasting their days trying to make home made bombs, then finally chancing their hand and putting them on our tube trains. For a few brainless twits trying to make out like they are an 'organisation'. These idiots may have made us late for our meetings today, but let's not kid ourselves. Al Quaeda are not responsible. They are just a few ragtag individuals running scared in cities around the world, who sometimes get a bomb or two off. Nobody cares. And they're not big, or hard, or clever. Just kind of sad, very small, pathetic, disorganised, stupid. Even the Islamists look on them with disgust. Claiming responsibility... Don't make me laugh, they couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. Some loners in London got a bit lucky with some home made kit, and a few died as a result. But they haven't even come close to shaking up this nation. Nah, we're a LOT bigger and better than that. Well said. Terrorists suck, and they're a sad and f'd up lot. Let's not make them out to be more than they are, or it helps them get what they want. _____________________ "Those who insist that objects, activities, people or creations have objective value are unhappy jealous souls who see all human commerce as a form of exploitation in which one party must always be cheated and degraded." - Allan Thornton
Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616	07-07-2005 09:18 London is one of my favorite cities in the world, so this really saddens me. My support and condolences go out to the people of England during this senseless tragedy. _____________________ Cristiano ANOmations - huge selection of high quality, low priced animations all $100L or less. ~SLUniverse.com~ SL's oldest and largest community site, featuring Snapzilla image sharing, forums, and much more.
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	07-07-2005 09:24 From: Blayze Raine Ty Nisa. Has any reliable information come out about who is actually responsible for the attacks besides the group that tried to claim it earlier? Still just the same claims. Quoting from a news site, this is apparently their statement: "The heroic mujahidin have carried out a blessed raid in London. Britain is now burning with fear, terror, and panic in its northern, southern, eastern, and western quarters." Mother F---ers. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Pendari Lorentz Senior Member Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 4,372	07-07-2005 09:24 Thank you for the links and updates everyone!
Red Mars What? Join date: 5 Feb 2004 Posts: 469	07-07-2005 09:30 From: Totally Barmy My heart goes out to anyone affected by the needless violence of todays tragedy. But before we ourselves get all extremist I believe it should be remembered the people who do this have an extraordinary motivation to hate the our greedy, self obsessed, morally bankrupt society ( as seen through their eyes ). Our own governments had no qualms about killing an estimated 300,000+ ( innocent ? ) civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan recently. Our own governments are about to FAIL to do anything about world debt in the G8 conference while our own corporations rape and pillage land and resources and some us still wonder why the rest of the world hates us so much. These atrocities will never stop until we are willing lead by example and show that we care about all the worlds people more than making money and profit for our own minority. No amount of rhetoric about terrorism can right the wrongs our own culture is inflicting on the poorer majority of the world, this is not simply about religion vs religion or opinion vs opinion it's about real and perhaps justified hate and resentment. I am not in any way condoning the awful, terrible acts that these criminal people do any more than I condone us going to wars that end up making things worse. It's time for us to wake up and start to change the way we treat the rest of the world, all it needs is less greed and more moral responsibility. Typical apologist "Gee that's really bad that that happened, but hey, you were asking for it" Comments like this make me sick _____________________
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	07-07-2005 09:39 The problem all has to do with OIL. If we weren't addicted to OIL, we wouldn't be in saudi arabia .. foreign troops on holy soil. Unfortuantely, they've got OIL so we're over there and they are angry with us. So they hit us and we hit back harder and they hit us even harder, etc etc. The solution, really, is not to democratize these people (you don't democratize people, they democratize themselves) but rather to break our dependency on oil and thus our need to be there. Unfortunately, special interest groups, such as big oil companies, have a lot lobbying power in washington which means we get elected a president who fights for their interests and maintains the addiction. It's all freaking sad. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Totally Barmy Proud Apoligist Join date: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 46	07-07-2005 09:40 From: Red Mars Typical apologist "Gee that's really bad that that happened, but hey, you were asking for it" Comments like this make me sick I'm so glad you took the time to read and repeat what I said, it might make you think a little about the situation in the world that has led to these events today. I am almost as deeply saddened by many of the ignorant "don't understand why" comments and right wing flag waving bigotry in this forum as I am by the terrible events of the day. And I speak as a Londoner. Not all us "Brits" are knee jerk flag waving nationalists some us have a few brain cells. It's not like this is the first time it's happened here. We all get up and carry on because we have to and NOT because wer'e Brits.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	07-07-2005 09:41 Oh, gimme a break. Thousands of innocent people are getting killed in IRAQ and you here dick all about it except some # each day that no one cares about. http://www.iraqbodycount.net/ _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	07-07-2005 09:47 Not the time or the place for this, people. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.
Xtopherxaos Ixtab D- in English Join date: 7 Oct 2004 Posts: 884	07-07-2005 09:48 From: Totally Barmy I'm so glad you took the time to read and repeat what I said, it might make you think a little about the situation in the world that has led to these events today. Dude, It's not that you are wrong...It's that there are hurt and dead people, and you are basically standing there shouting, "See, I told you so!". Jump off your friggin' political rhetoric machine for just one afternoon.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	07-07-2005 09:50 Yes, this is a terrible incident. But to point the finger at the terrorists is just going to lead to more of these terrible incidents. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	07-07-2005 09:50 I think the Muslim Fundamentalist terrorists will keep making strikes like this until 1 of two things happens. 1.) All Foriegn powers leave all Muslim countries. 2.) People in the countries which give rise to Militant Fundamentalists stop them. If case 1 were to begine to happen, the resulting Civil wars and coups the Fundamentalists would wage as they attempted to take over those countries would be far more deadly and vicious then any war we have seen in the Mid-East to this point. The resulting Fundamentalist governements would be extremely hostile and argumentative, and in control of a lion's share of the Worlds Oil. THey most certainly be oppressive and brutal to their own people. There is no doubt Isreal would be destroyed. We would have a series of Islamic States modeled after the Iranian theocracy. Either the new regimes would then kill each other in bloody wars, or they would look for a new enemy bordering Islamic mid-east. Governments instituted by fanatics and killers tend to do that. I think the goal of fighting the terrorists now is along the lines of the second choice. However me may disagree with HOW its being accomplished, the end result is, somehow, the people of the Middle East need to stop The fundamentalists. I beleive the US and Brittain and other are attempting to help them. Its very possible its being gone about the wrong way. But the solutions are not easy. Its naive to think that if all foriegn countries left the Middle East that somehow the people there would no longer suffer.
Hiro Queso 503less Join date: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 2,753	07-07-2005 09:50 From: Totally Barmy I'm so glad you took the time to read and repeat what I said, it might make you think a little about the situation in the world that has led to these events today. I am almost as deeply saddened by many of the ignorant "don't understand why" comments and right wing flag waving bigotry in this forum as I am by the terrible events of the day. And I speak as a Londoner. Not all us "Brits" are knee jerk flag waving nationalists some us have a few brain cells. It's not like this is the first time it's happened here. We all get up and carry on because we have to and NOT because wer'e Brits. I'm not sure what I hate more, ignorance or arrogance. _____________________
Roseann Flora /wrist Join date: 7 Feb 2004 Posts: 1,058	07-07-2005 09:52 Thanks for the updates and info, I just got up and didnt know till I came to the forums. Fead the cowards to the sharks!! _____________________
Billy Grace Land Market Facilitator Join date: 8 Mar 2004 Posts: 2,307	07-07-2005 09:53 TAKE THE POLITICAL CRAP ELSEWHERE. Start your own friggin thread and have a little respect decency for this one, which is NOT about politics but a horrific tragedy!!!!! _____________________ I find it rather easy to portray a businessman. Being bland, rather cruel and incompetent comes naturally to me. John Cleese, 1939 -
Reitsuki Kojima Witchhunter Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,328	07-07-2005 09:53 From: blaze Spinnaker Yes, this is a terrible incident. But to point the finger at the terrorists is just going to lead to more of these terrible incidents. Blaming the terrorists for something the terrorists did is going to cause the terrorists to do more of the things the terrorists did. Stellar logic there, Blaze. I repeat, it's not the time or the place for this. _____________________ I am myself indifferent honest; but yet I could accuse me of such things that it were better my mother had not borne me: I am very proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offenses at my beck than I have thoughts to put them in, imagination to give them shape, or time to act them in. What should such fellows as I do crawling between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves, all; believe none of us.

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