No kids in the real SL, EVER!

I am a teacher in real. That means I should start to build a school in SL now or?

Kids are welcome but they will bring a lot of problems too.

Oh please, what is wrong with everyone? I have to say I know much more childish grown-up than childish 'kids'.
Besides that, those kids who are that childish (IF they manage to get into Second Life) will probably loose interest in it after a short time.

The only problem I see, and that is and will ever be there, may (or is and will) be the content. I would take that as a reason not to make it open; but not because, giving the immatureness of some children as a reason is just poor.

I disagree. I don't think kids would lose interest in it, especially if they can pretend to be grown ups. That's what kids do, right? I think that they would get a huge kick out of role-playing.

As for the pornographic side of things, I certainly wouldn't want MY eight-year-old exposed to double fisting and so forth (not that I have an eight-year-old), but I think once you hit 13 you're gonna either know about it or know about it REAL soon.

Still don't want kids in SL, though. I love kids but they can hang out with their parents, not me.

At the risk of bad ettiquite for revisiting a thread I started, I thought I'd add for the record of our excellent conversation here a link to the announcement that Teens are coming to a version of SL .
Anyone who is interested in this issue really ought to read through this thread since many of the smartest people in SL have spent 22 pages highlighting the real pitfalls ahead with something like this. Every question that should be asked and addressed in a townhall about this scheme is right here in the pages of this thread.

I wish there was a structured voting mechanism in place - maybe it's own topic.

Ney.

Figured this could use a bump.

I understand to an extent. All of you who dont want minors on SL have your opinion. But I have to admit, there where some very "stero types" stated. I disagree with "not being able to have an inteligent conversation with a minor." Very stereo typical. I just started my Second Life account. I have been playing SL for a week and 3 days i think. I have posted which some of you may have been the ones to respond. For one, we dont all have perfect grammar, punctuaation, ect..... I posted some pics of my armor.......My first 5 days in SL where spent on building what i have gotten too. Critisism, that what i got for posting. Just wanted to share my "imagination" with you. Then came the question upon me being "allowed" in SL. Got real defensive. I may have said some thing wrong, but to get to the point, why reject something thats so inevitable? Those "minors" are the future........ummm maybe all of you "adults" could contribute to that. Who knows what kid might make a freind to an adult, in the game, who knows, the "kid" might even look up to you? You would then be labled as a "good role model" and maybe contribute some positive energy towards that child. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm get the picture. Don't be so rude, rejective to the youth. Yes make it so a "minor" cant enter the "xxx" clubs. or better yet "mature region" but why completely disable them to experience the wonderful world and all of its wonders to a crummy generic "g" rated SL. As being 18 years and 2 months old, i am comming from the "minor lable." If a 17 year old kid can sign up for the army, go to afgan and kill another human being, then i defenatley say yes, he should be able to participate as another character in SL. Nothing more to say.

Feed the troll

[edit]: i was rather mean in this post, its was late ant night.

A. there will be kids, its just a matter of time. (not that im pro youngings)
B. LL staff will work it out, unlike most of you pecimists out there i imagine LL will do fine with handeling this

No rugmonkeys EVER!

No kids near my Happy Fun Ball. Ever.

Luckily, the Lindens don't seem to care much about what forum people think when they have already decided to do something. I am fully in support of this decision, as I'm sure some of you already know.

Let me get one thing clear, though. I am NOT in support of kids being allowed everywhere and allowed to do everything and having equal rights as adults. It doesn't work that way in RL and it should not work here. But minors SHOULD NOT be segregated. They may have friends in the adult grid and wouldn't be able to see or talk to them

I am in favor of zoning certain areas and not allowing minors to see certain objects. Also, mall owners should be able to selectively screen out content in their malls that are unsuitable for minors, because otherwise, a lot of those malls would fall under Mature, and kids would never be allowed to shop. THAT'S RIGHT, SPEND MONEY ON -YOUR- CRAP. POTENTIAL BUSINESS. But, judging on everyone's reactions, I fear this will become greatly abused and people will zone EVERYTHING against minors. I vote that LL should keep track of this for that reason. Obviously, night (or, rather, sex) clubs should be STRICTLY off-limits, but I keep picturing 95% of everything else being sealed up as well. I know you guys don't want kids here, but they're not ALL BAD. Seriously.

Furthermore, if any of them decide to act in a childish and immature way, they should be banned without question. We have quite enough immaturity as it is. We don't need minors coming in and adding to it. I will completely agree with you all about that. Some kids really are stupid and should not be here. Some -adults- really are stupid and should not be here. But I suppose that's beside the point.

Also, different colored names sounds good to me. Someone also mentioned somewhere about adults being able to Mute all kids, and I like that idea as well. I wonder if we could even make it so adults couldn't see kids at all, if they wanted. I think that would cut down on a lot of whining, and anything that cuts down on whining can't be bad.

In the end, I would just like to say that while I know a lot of you don't want kids here, I would like you to reexamine why exactly that is. I suspect there is lot less "THEY'RE JUST STUPID! I DON'T LIKE 'EM!" and a lot more closet elitism than most of you want to admit to others and, indeed, yourselves. (Also, "Well, I couldn't do anything at that age! Why should they be able to do anything?!" which is just immature.) I am very sure that that statement is going to generate an uproar, but it only goes to further prove my point. If you really don't like kids, fine. If you are really opposed to them being here, fine. But please ask yourself why. I resubmit the fact that NOT ALL MINORS ARE COMPLETE MORONS. And if you don't believe me, then you should ask yourself why you think that as well.

Feel free to comment on/argue about any of this. I'm telling you now, I won't respond. I'm done forum fighting. But, please, all of you, just think about that last part at the very least. You don't have to admit anything to anyone but yourselves. But I think that a lot of you will discover something interesting about yourselves if you at least try to consider your motives. Thank you.

Hello, speaking as one of SL's ambassadors from the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, I'd just like to give the flip side of this. Let's look at this from the Left shall we? Ah....I see it now... We let the minors in because-Hey! California schools are not required to inform parents if their children are seeking drug counseling and the Supreme Court upheld that girls needn't get their parents' consent or even inform them before having an abortion-so why should LL feel the need to inform parents that their children are in SL? Yeah! And who cares if that AV you're using the sex balls with is actually a 14yo girl? After all, being a Liberal means believing that we should be teaching Jr. High Schoolers the benefits of oral sex in combating pregnancy! Yeah! Forget G ratings and flaggings-just let 'em on in! Parents be damned!

*waits for the acid trip to subside and returns to reality. You don't have to be a conservative to realize the dangers involved here. While I believe that the idea of a teen SL is a good one, I believe that it should be in no way connected to our SL.

Old thread. Stfu.

They won't be. Wow, this thread got long.

Hahahaha

I want children in SL! BBQ'd, with some baked beans and a beer, they are wonderful!

Yes and you just resurrected it.

*slap*

I think he did it to send us a message. Kids...update/upgrade...forums...sheep. It all adds up.

I'm pretty sure it was Vektor's way of letting us know that they are now using Chinese kids in sweatshops to code and install SL updates.

But of course these kids will be allowed -

SLiCKs

Well I know the after Hamlet Linden interviewed a Chinese girl in this blog:

http://secondlife.blogs.com/nwn/2005/03/sweating_the_de.html

He went ahead and hired her write for him at 38 cents an article.

No kids....if that should happen I would make my land private..the griefing will increase and would open up liabilities for adults who may share illicit behavior with juveniles.
I have a very impressional 13 year old son and if an adult was sharing illegal material with my boy I'd call my attorney. SL has enough booger machines posing as adults as it is.

I know you are, but what am I!

LL lets minors on SL im out period

All these arguements are pointless because you are all forgetting one important thing:

Minors are already in the game.

Do you think that all 13-17 year olds are so lacking in intelligence that they would tell Linden Labs their age? And it's odd that so many of the adults here have such a lack of respect for teenagers, basically treating them like a different species rather than human beings. Did you all have bad experiences with your kids?

No we just happen to know the internet fuckwad theory applies more often to teenagers

SL is already 90% fuckwad. Too late there.