No kids in the real SL, EVER!

I am 100% unequivocally against Zombie minors in SL. They can't even support their own brain eating habits yet!

undefinedNO KIDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Being only 18 myself, and taking into account that a hell of a lot of people as it is are not mature (not saying i dont have "relapses" of being stupid).

I am fully for having younger people in sl but not in the main stream. allready in my shot time here I have seen what a pain in the backside younger people can be.

A few sims off to one side of the grid that younger people cannot leave would be perfect, that way people can enjoy sl and older people can teach the young ones new things but this has its down sides with this adversily advertising sl to younger people and them just getting a parent to lie about thire age.

The only nice solution i see for this at the moment is having a diffrently named client to the grid with sims that can only be visited with that client, this way very few changes are needed to the grid and the sl client. It would realy just be sl with a sticker over the name.

But with younger people in sl there are a lot of rules and problems that crop up that are not as common in sl as it is now. One of the main problems will be preditors of an unhealthy nature, these cause a huge problem with some of the stuff I work on and can be hard to keep under wraps. So a lot of thinking would need to go into it but from a code point of view very littel would need to be done and LL open up a nice source of income (got to love kids spending loads of cash on games)


Any comments (Other then digs at my age or spelling) ?

I have 5 SL kids and they are fine.. lol

My Two Cents::

AOL, There, TSO, Unreal Tourney, Counter-Strike, Everquest, Neopets, and Outwar... the kiddies have enough ruin already. (don't bitch about missing names here)

In a couple years, when SL is running on next-next-gen hardware, and Disney, AOL, Yahoo, Google, and Neopets are outsourcing them for branded versions, we'll have to deal with kids. We will, of course, have Credit-Card Age Verification for SL proper.

What about the present? Same rule I have about kids in SL, keep them on a short leash and plenty of valium. But how you raise you little ADHD zombie is your own business.

Okei so maybe I was a little harsh on my other post. I was just pissed off after reading all of these posts. A very simple solution is mark the minors so you know who they are. And I wish people would stop saying that SL is such a bad place for a kid. Children are having sex, getting pregnant, doing drugs and getting into all sorts of trouble without SL. What bad would allowing them SL do? Then they could relieve themselves of all their stupidity in a virtual world instead of the real one.

Oh and that comment someone said about kids who get raped having sex just because is bullshit. I was raped. Do you see me going out and having sex with random people? NO. You can't stereotype people that way. Generalizations just don't work. Every person is unique and you can't banish good kids just because some of them act stupid.

Again, I apologize for my previous post. I should have calmed down before venting at the thread.

The bottom line is: SL residents can't be held responsible for the actions of these minors. Any legal problems could be resolved in contract at the time of registration and alternate sims just for minors isn't a bad idea, either. Some of you just aren't thinking about how many minors are ALREADY in SL. I personally know over a dozen. Have they actually affected anyone in a negative way yet? You tell me.

Very Nicely Said!!!!


hmmm hope i did this quoting thing right....

Haley Mandala

Kiri,

That was me that said about children who are molested being more promiscuous than other children owing to the fact they are introduced to sex too early.

So you've been raped and you're fine afterwards? Uh, great? The fact is yes rape and early sex and stuff DOES damage children, so I don't care if you are 'fine' after being raped, I am here to protect. And it is a fact that children who are rushed into sexual things too soon do suffer damage, including sleeping around a lot, which isn't their fault really, it is because of the damage done to them as children.

I find it deeply disturbing you'd say you were raped, and try use that to trivialise the effect of rape, molestation and too early exposre of children to sexual things. If you've really been raped, then you more than me should want children OUT of SL to avoid them being placed into dangerous, questionable, and just generally not healthy situations.

*** I don't care if anyone has been raped, shot, hung, executed, I will not stand by while people hurt people ***

"How about just one or two?", he asks - amazed at the longevity of this thread.

Ya know, good topic.. but guys.... I think your TOO late to stop kids being in SL

I realise my avatar might be new to SL, but I am not. Though this is a story for a diffrent occassion, I must state that I do not believe SL in it's current form is in any way shape or form suitable for children. I realise that there are PG sims and R sims, but many cross the boundaries into both worlds. Most people have the sense enough to keep their genitalia in their pants while in a PG sim, but there are those who don't. There are many adult subjects portrayed in SL and I personally don't believe it's at all suitable for children. I may have a slightly slanted view on the subject as I have 2 small children of my own, but the belief remains that the current form of SL is not the place for children.

Aside from the children, what about us adults? To many of us, SL is our escape from the real world. That includes our children. It gives us the freedom from inhibition, to do things we normaly would not do when our children or other's children were around. We act rude, crude, and lude.. And we like it that way.

That being said, there are some things you could do. Create a separate set of sims which are segragated from the main sim farm. If you truely believe that this is a possible money maker, I don't see why you wouldn't go this route. You could also implement a form of censoring, but in this world, censoring doesn't make much sense as it's main appeal is freedom. There may be other ideas, but I still think the segragated sim would be the best approach.

Let me state emphaticly SL as it currently stands is absolutly NOT the place for children. It is very much an adult game/sim/whatever you want to label it. If I wanted to be in a child friendly sim.. I'd still be in "There".

I totally agree. My decision to try SL was determined, in large part, when I read that it was for adults. Just about every online game out there is rated "teen".... can't adults have at least one good game to themselves?

Another thought against having kids in SL occurred to me the other day; what about the forums? Some folks are upset that a minority of threads seem to be centered around negative subjects, just think how it will be with kids in here too...

Well that is abit tight i think that kids would love to play Second Life so i think Second Life should make a little Game for these under the age of 14 who agreas ?

NO! NO ONE UNDER 18! DAMMIT!

Any minors under 18 caught in SL should be banned immediately, AND sued for tresspassing! ALL OF THEM!

NO KIDS... we've enough already. *ahem*

No one agrees.

He wants the age at 14 so he will be legal, grr.

This thread is still alive? DIE! DIE DIE DIE.

oooo just personally attack or flame someone, that should get it done for ya or not, who knows in what wacky way these places work o.O

i argee with you i dont wants kids expose too this i do have to admit there would be some benfits of having kid on sl but the downside out weighs the benfits if kid do get on i think they should be marked nothing to bad just maybe a diffrent color for there name because i would hate to find out some 13 year-old kid lied to me that he was 21 however i think it would be best as it is because let face we cant keep kids out of sl maybe if we keep the over 18 rule we can as sad as it sound keep child freaks form nowing kids real age i know it not a very good way but if it helps

Wow. Punctuation? Spelling? Coherent thought?

I started playing this game to avoid them in other games. If the kids are allowed to play, no reason for me to. I'm out. Might as well play EQ2 or WoW.

Ok so yet another reply to this thread is possibly unwanted but Im quite new to this game and only saw this thread today and had to reply, sorry...

I have played other online games, notably Ultima Online and I have to add another to that internet Fuckwad theory someone posted earlier

Good game + developers need/desire for more cash = bad game

If I were given the choice of either letting kids into the game or paying twice the subscription, I personally would pay twice the subscription, so far I think this game is great and I would hate to see it go downhill like UO did.

Please no kids in this game, I say that as a father of three

this stuff's all be reiterated over and over, but here's my take. lemmie tell you a story:

I started playing SL twoish months ago. I signed up for the free trial, liked it, etc. after playing it a few hours, I thought it might be something my sister, who's 14, would enjoy. I had glanced over the ToS and missed the part about the game being for 18 year olds or older, so I didn't expect there to be a problem. so she got our parents' card, signed up for the trial, and was off.

after a day she was giggling telling me about how all she had to do was wear skimpy outfits and the boys would give her money. it made me frown but knowing that's how she got around in UO I said nothing. after a day and a half she told me she'd started "working" as an escort at the edge and I flipped out.

thankfully, however, she's got a large mouth with not the highest level of sense and was telling everybody about how she was really only 14, and she was reported, and the account shut down and blocked. at the time I thought the reaction was extreme and a little silly, given the fact that her IP address was also blocked as well, but now with my experience of playing the game for a while I can say it's a good thing and to whomever did it I'm appreciative.

I'm all for children learning and knowing about sex, but of the less pornographic and normal variety. there's no real need for kids to understand the difference between "doggystyle" and "missionary," much less what the fuck fisting is. and I'm sure we can all agree that, especially as acts of graphic sex are concerned, SL is nothing but deviant. a quick search on sex in the find places gives you a plethora of options to choose from. I don't think there's any reason why kids should be subjected to that. it'd require sweeping changes across the platform and I'm sure you'd lose a lot of SL subscriptions. if you're sure the kids would make up for the loss then sure, but I can tell you if I had kids I wouldn't let them touch the screen.

that's just THAT subject.

comments on immaturity aside, as most people view SL as a chat medium you have to take that into consideration as well. I curse like a sailor. I say fuck. a lot. and I'll be damned if I should be censored for that because a minor chooses to occupy the same virtual space as me. I think even having PG areas is asinine because you've got to be an adult to play the game and all non-adults who'd be offended by such language shouldn't be there in the first place.

a week ago or so I was in the welcome area and someone said "shit," and one of the helper people got on his case about it, telling him not to use that type of language. really now. shit is a word you can say on cable television now days, it's totally PG. but that's beside the point. I know a lot of people who wouldn't enjoy hearing "watch your language, there're children in this sim." and they pay your bills.

but take comfort in this fact. without exploding body parts and weapons that rain nuclear fire and blow up buildings, kids are likely to get bored of SL really fast.