The Hegemony Ends Now

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Don't take it personally. I'm a dick to everyone. In fact, if you're going to rail against anyone on here, rail against me. I'll fully admit it.

I can be a dick too but it doesnt give me the right to act like one.

When would you have time? You have pompous, self-righteous and ill-humored you're championing! Stick with what you're good at, my mum always said.

Try debating the issue instead of attacking me. Are you able to formulate well thought out ideas?

What's to debate? And is it anything worth taking seriously?

If you can make this sound more pressing than "I don't think there are very nice people here" and sticking your tongue out while you spit 50 cent words out your rectum, then I'll debate. Maybe. I might watch a movie too.

Excellent post, Chip. It gives me pause to reflect on this entire forum business.

Thanks for posting it.

Of course humans are imperfect. Step around the issue all you want. The point is you know that some people soul pupose on here is to provoke and insult others.

The same cannot be said about a number of other regulars who have used this thread to attack me. I'm not going to enumerate these, but if you read the thread, you'll see that it, in fact, has occured and you'll also see that it's the typical contingent of people doing it.
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One is that personal attacks are acceptable in certain contexts (something I reject) or that it's ok if you're one of a certain select set of people.

I can't think of a single poster on these forums who would fit that description. Not one.

I can't think of a single poster on these forums who would fit that description. Not one.

This is actually a position that has been put forth in the past, with qualification: You need to be on a certain victim list in order to have your own personal attacks qualify as acceptable. Speak to Cocoanut for details on being included on that list.

What does spelling and grammer have to do with debate? Please clarify your logical reasoning behind such a bold statement. Let me explain for like the 50th time what my position is.

These forums are meant to share "ideas", "thoughts", and to enhance the SL experience. It is not to be a playground to insult and harass others. You agreed to the ToS. I believe you should refrain from attacking me personally and attack my idea.

Well i am new and maybe my evidence is miniscule but i can only speak on my own experience. It was a flawed argument. I agree.

I'd have to agree that you've proven me wrong on these points about forum behavior and the TOS. I don't think you have.

Just because you haven't convinced me is no reason for me to take my keyboard and go home.

Why don't the others roll over? I think THEY are wrong.

coco

I'm not going to argue the particulars of how you've come to your conclusions - no need.

Your method, however...

For over five years I worked with at-risk children. These kids (mostly teens) delighted in tearing into one another physically, verbally and emotionally. For the most part, all I really had to do was break up the fights before they became dangerous. Ocasionally I'd have to seperate one from the rest to keep the peace. But on the whole, the almost-controlled chaos worked well as status quo becasue things did get settled eventually as they got to know one another.

The young fellows who would wreck this dynamic and cause me untold greif weren't the bullies. It was the ones who railed against the fighting. They called it unjust, uncivilised, and unfair and were determined to bring it to an end.

Of course, they were right. Such an environment is uncivilised and often unjust and unfair.

However, changing it is impossible by way of force. The boys fought no longer simply becasue they were agressive, but now becasue they were threatened. And since the "less civilised" were more willing to deal out the damage - they were used to it, after all - guess who was the one in the infirmary every time?

There was only one way I could reagain the control over the house I needed to run it. I had to teach the child who wanted the civilised environment how we ran our program.

I assure you, the method did not involve reporting the others to me, or making threats, or telling them they were wrong to be doing what they were doing. All these things are woefully inneffective.

The technique I tought was one of simple reward and peer modeling. To encourage the behaviors you want, and to always respond with the proper behaviors - no matter the provocation.

Teaching a teenaged boy how to do this was time consuming, and they rarely got a grasp of it in the short time I had to teach them. But, they were just kids - that's to be expected.

Fortunately here we're adults. If you want to start changing the tone of the boards, stop matching the tone. Be the voice of civility, the calmed and reasoned voice. Reward those who act similarly by taking to them, praising thier presentation, and then responding with your own views similarly. For those who bully or provoke - ignore them entirely, no response, and definately no chiding.

It takes time, but people generally perfer to discuss issues without fighting. Eventually you'll find more and more people being civil.

It will never be the perfect lil world. There are simply too many personalities involved. There comes a point where you just have to let it be - and concentrate on your own behavior and worth.

You should have seen the celebration after Prok was banned from the forums.

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That's the one. Works on a subliminal level. People on the road automatically give way.

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