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DogSpot Boxer
vortex thruster
Join date: 23 Aug 2005
Posts: 671
09-23-2005 13:13
The way new people are treated here is disgraceful. And the noob abuse comes from a small handful of people who under the misguided impression that this is their own personal playground where they can run roughshod over anyone.

I don't want to hear protests of but, but, but... We all have a good idea of who the real troublemakers here are.

I suggest that the problem children here who seem to thrive on trolling and provoking people pay careful attention to what you post. Because you will be taken to task for boorish behavior here. I know how to AR and I will not be shy about using it.

You should also realize that I now understand your tactics and I will not be provoked into violating the TOS. So don't bother. If you do try to provoke me, I'll AR it and laugh at you.

I speak for only myself, but I am confident that there are other forum members who feel that this board has been dominated by malcontents for too long and that it is not a generally friendly place to be unless you're part of the in-crowd.
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
09-23-2005 13:21
It's me. I was kicking the noob around at the end of that god-forsaken anti-intellectual thread.

Could someone with a soul come and mop up this mess? We still might be able to convert him to premium account, if we do some damage control. Same deal as always. Free chicken hats to those who direct his radicalism to your cause or find common ground through commiseration.

Thanks! :)

~Ulrika~
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Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Cory Edo
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Join date: 26 Mar 2005
Posts: 1,851
09-23-2005 13:24
From: DogSpot Boxer
Grrr!



Welcome to the forums.

Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
09-23-2005 13:28
But, but, but.....
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reddish Tigereye
antisocial recluse
Join date: 12 Nov 2003
Posts: 151
09-23-2005 13:48
what is AR?
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Huns Valen
Don't PM me here.
Join date: 3 May 2003
Posts: 2,749
09-23-2005 13:49
Rule lawyers provoking others into violating the TOS while dancing around it themselves?

Well, I never!
Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
09-23-2005 13:54
From: reddish Tigereye
what is AR?


Abuse report.
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
09-23-2005 14:17
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"Honestly, you are a gem -- fun, creative, and possessing strong social convictions. I think LL should be paying you to be in their game."

~ Ulrika Zugzwang on the iconography of pandastrong in the media



"That's no good. Someone is going to take your place as SL's cutest boy while you're offline."

~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game.
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
09-23-2005 14:24
From: pandastrong Fairplay
Where do you get all your amazing images?

~Ulrika~
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Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
09-23-2005 14:25
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Where do you get all your amazing images?

~Ulrika~

I produce them for him. Didn't you know?
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Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
09-23-2005 14:26
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Where do you get all your amazing images?

~Ulrika~



http://www.edotheimageninja.com
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"Honestly, you are a gem -- fun, creative, and possessing strong social convictions. I think LL should be paying you to be in their game."

~ Ulrika Zugzwang on the iconography of pandastrong in the media



"That's no good. Someone is going to take your place as SL's cutest boy while you're offline."

~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game.
Julian Fate
80's Pop Star
Join date: 19 Oct 2003
Posts: 1,020
09-23-2005 14:27
Just stay out of General and Off-Topic and you'll be fine. There's nothing good in them anyway and it's not like forum yakking dictates policy to LL. Or, don't rise to the bait. Internet debate is like two brick walls screaming at each other. Don't be a brick wall.
Isablan Neva
Mystic
Join date: 27 Nov 2004
Posts: 2,907
09-23-2005 14:34
Dogspot, I am sorry your SL experience is being ruined by the forums. One thing that should be understood is that the forums are not SL, the forums are a little game unto themselves and there are very experienced forum players who thrive on the acrimony because that is their nature. People are going to be people no matter how hard you try to teach them manners and maturity. Trying to reform people will get you no place worth going, you can either spend your time tilting at windmills or you can jump into SL and create something positive for yourself. If you must read the forums, read them as entertainment and don’t get involved in the drama threads. Laugh, shake your head, snort in disgust, but DO NOT get involved. You can either be on the Jerry Springer show or you can watch the Jerry Springer show (or better yet, pretend it doesn’t exist entirely.) Contribute when you have something positive to contribute. Getting involved in forum flame wars is a fool’s game that will only give you ulcers and headaches, leave those things to the people who enjoy them.

Don’t let the childish behavior of others ruin your SL. This is a wonderful place, full of amazing possibilities to enrich all of your lives. Of course there is a lot of B.S., but nobody is forcing you to be a part of it, you are choosing to be a part. Choose not to be a part.

Let go and walk tall.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
09-23-2005 14:39
From: Julian Fate
Just stay out of General and Off-Topic and you'll be fine. There's nothing good in them anyway and it's not like forum yakking dictates policy to LL. Or, don't rise to the bait. Internet debate is like two brick walls screaming at each other. Don't be a brick wall.
Apologies in advance for being contrary but I have successfully lobbied the Lindens for change and had meaningful debates here in the forum.

With regard to lobbying, it is my opinion that it is the primary mechanism for communicating with the Lindens. With regard to internet debate, I find that diametrically opposed individuals, who both have something to lose if they don't compromise, can do so over the internet. A perfect example would be the heated debates we have in the Nburg forum that always lead to some sort of compromise or resolution.

However, I grant you that it is difficult to successfully lobby the Lindens in the forums and quite difficult to find compromise on the internet if there are no mutual interests.

~Ulrika~
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Chik-chik-chika-ahh
katykiwi Moonflower
Esquirette
Join date: 5 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,489
09-23-2005 14:39
From: Isablan Neva
One thing that should be understood is that the forums are not SL, the forums are a little game unto themselves and there are very experienced forum players who thrive on the acrimony because that is their nature.
But the forums are part of the Sl community. This is our arena for discussion and debate; our community newspaper, especially now that the SL world is so large and communication by particle smoke signal is no longer working the way it did in BETA. :D
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notpandastrongsalt Faulkner
Registered User
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 22
09-23-2005 14:56
JackBurton Faulkland
PorkChop Express
Join date: 3 Sep 2005
Posts: 478
09-23-2005 15:03
From: Isablan Neva
Dogspot, I am sorry your SL experience is being ruined by the forums. One thing that should be understood is that the forums are not SL, the forums are a little game unto themselves and there are very experienced forum players who thrive on the acrimony because that is their nature. People are going to be people no matter how hard you try to teach them manners and maturity. Trying to reform people will get you no place worth going, you can either spend your time tilting at windmills or you can jump into SL and create something positive for yourself. If you must read the forums, read them as entertainment and don’t get involved in the drama threads. Laugh, shake your head, snort in disgust, but DO NOT get involved. You can either be on the Jerry Springer show or you can watch the Jerry Springer show (or better yet, pretend it doesn’t exist entirely.) Contribute when you have something positive to contribute. Getting involved in forum flame wars is a fool’s game that will only give you ulcers and headaches, leave those things to the people who enjoy them.

Don’t let the childish behavior of others ruin your SL. This is a wonderful place, full of amazing possibilities to enrich all of your lives. Of course there is a lot of B.S., but nobody is forcing you to be a part of it, you are choosing to be a part. Choose not to be a part.

Let go and walk tall.


1) Well i believe its misleading to show this site as a source of information when it is just a playing ground for a few malicious people to get a rise out of Noobs. 2) If its not part of SL then why link it in game? 3) So by being an expierienced forum user all you do is personal attack people? 4) If you believe it to be soley entertainment then i believe that the forums should blatently state the real purpose and not mislead.
pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
09-23-2005 15:04
From: notpandastrongsalt Faulkner
some kitty image that is supposed to be oh so funny


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"Honestly, you are a gem -- fun, creative, and possessing strong social convictions. I think LL should be paying you to be in their game."

~ Ulrika Zugzwang on the iconography of pandastrong in the media



"That's no good. Someone is going to take your place as SL's cutest boy while you're offline."

~ Ingrid Ingersoll on the topic of LL refusing to pay pandastrong for being in their game.
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
09-23-2005 15:07
From: JackBurton Faulkland
1) Well i believe its misleading to show this site as a source of information when it is just a playing ground for a few malicious people to get a rise out of Noobs. 2) If its not part of SL then why link it in game? 3) So by being an expierienced forum user all you do is personal attack people? 4) If you believe it to be soley entertainment then i believe that the forums should blatently state the real purpose and not mislead.
This should help.

~Ulrika~
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Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
09-23-2005 15:08
From: DogSpot Boxer
The way new people are treated here is disgraceful. And the noob abuse comes from a small handful of people who under the misguided impression that this is their own personal playground where they can run roughshod over anyone.

I don't want to hear protests of but, but, but... We all have a good idea of who the real troublemakers here are.

I suggest that the problem children here who seem to thrive on trolling and provoking people pay careful attention to what you post. Because you will be taken to task for boorish behavior here. I know how to AR and I will not be shy about using it.

You should also realize that I now understand your tactics and I will not be provoked into violating the TOS. So don't bother. If you do try to provoke me, I'll AR it and laugh at you.

I speak for only myself, but I am confident that there are other forum members who feel that this board has been dominated by malcontents for too long and that it is not a generally friendly place to be unless you're part of the in-crowd.


DogSpot,

I have seen your posts over the past few weeks or so. I even tangled with you myself, and had the lovely experience of being told how clueless I am by you because I criticized a statement made about Ethiopia/Somalia. I didn't make the post to you, but you felt the need to interject and attack me personally, and insert yourself into the situation. I wasn't abusive at all of the person in question, in fact he and I mutually apologized to each other, but honestly you were just a complete jerk in the thread for no apparent reason.

In your thread about the land market, Jauani was sarcastic with you. Jauani is sarcastic with EVERYONE - he posts often just to be contrary. It has nothing to do with being a new player. So where is this wretched hegemony that has treated you so aggregiously? You have been free to express your opinions, impune the intelligence of others, tell people to shut the fuck up, etc. It seems to me you give as good as you get, so what on earth are you complaining about? People who are supposely all about free expression have a funny way of wanting to keep other people's expressions in check. Feel free to abuse report away - if you want to play hall monitor, that is your business.

Are there opinionated, intelligent, vocal, sarcastic, witty people in these forums with incredibly strong personalities? Fuck yeah, and I would not want it any different, including yours - I happen to like a lot of your posts. This us against them bullshit gets old though - it is a divisive tactic that doesn't have much basis in the reality of how you have been treated in these forums.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
09-23-2005 15:08
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
This should help.
Jesus. I'm like an amateur compared to pandastrong. :D

~Ulrika~
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Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
09-23-2005 15:12
From: Cristiano Midnight
DogSpot,

I have seen your posts over the past few weeks or so. I even tangled with you myself, and had the lovely experience of being told how clueless I am by you because I criticized a statement made about Ethiopia/Somalia. I didn't make the post to you, but you felt the need to interject and attack me personally, and insert yourself into the situation. I wasn't abusive at all of the person in question, in fact he and I mutually apologized to each other, but honestly you were just a complete jerk in the thread for no apparent reason.

In your thread about the land market, Jauani was sarcastic with you. Jauani is sarcastic with EVERYONE - he posts often just to be contrary. It has nothing to do with being a new player. So where is this wretched hegemony that has treated you so aggregiously? You have been free to express your opinions, impune the intelligence of others, tell people to shut the fuck up, etc. It seems to me you give as good as you get, so what on earth are you complaining about? People who are supposely all about free expression have a funny way of wanting to keep other people's expressions in check. Feel free to abuse report away - if you want to play hall monitor, that is your business.

Are there opinionated, intelligent, vocal, sarcastic, witty people in these forums with incredibly strong personalities? Fuck yeah, and I would not want it any different, including yours - I happen to like a lot of your posts. This us against them bullshit gets old though - it is a divisive tactic that doesn't have much basis in the reality of how you have been treated in these forums.

Thank you for spelling divisive correctly. :p
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Lecktor Hannibal
YOUR MOM
Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
09-23-2005 15:12
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Jesus. I'm like an amateur compared to pandastrong. :D

~Ulrika~

NOOB!!1
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
Posts: 5,813
09-23-2005 15:24
Omg I Rul2!!!!! I M Teh H363m0n4!!!!!!!!!
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Cory Edo
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09-23-2005 15:28
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