The Bible gave us books.

hehe and with the new statistics on HOW MANY people are in prison we will guarantee a rise in Christianity int he US?

=p

Thanks for the link, if you read on you will see this....

"The most striking finding is the dramatic rise in the belief in life after death among the youngest cohorts in all but three countries (Ireland, Cyprus and Britain—in the first two, it was already high). In the whole European sample, 56 percent of the cohorts born before 1930 believe in life after death, 50 percent of those born in the 1950’s, and 60 percent of those born after 1970. Grandparents and grandchildren are more likely to believe than parents. Since belief in life after death is one of the core components of Christian faith (and utterly abhorrent to the patrons of modernity), it can be asserted that Christian faith has increased in Europe as a whole."

My source was reporting on a study the UPI had reported. The UPI is hardly religious.

Those articles concern the decline of organized religion. I agree with that accessment.

Actually... this is incorrect. The printing press was invented in China during the Song Dynasty (A.D. 960-1280), perhaps even earlier than that. Christianity was not practiced in China during that period. In fact, Christianity didn't start taking any sort of hold until the 1800's.

I think you missed the rest of the thread.

I do that sometimes

Me too

How do they make that conclusion?

Since when is beleif in life after death a Christain monopoly?

At times I wonder , how many people paid attention in College. Especially Journalists.

Ah, unfortunately... journalists are just people with loud mouths, they will put their own spin on things like anyone else.

Belief in an afterlife dates back to the earliest religious practices. Long before christianity came to be.

Well, one can be certain these people aren't atheists. At the very least they believe in God. The reason they suggest Christianity is because that's the faith that suggests there is life after death.

Which religions would that be?

Buddhist believe in life after death, does that make them secret Christians?

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Um, no, buddhism doesn't teach life after life. Unless they are Christian Buddhists.

The study said nothing about them believing in the christian god, it seems it asked them if they believe in life after death. Heck, Shinto even believes in life after death, as did the ancient greeks, neither of which are christian in even the slightest sense. Is 'Total Willful Ignorance and Logical Escapism 101' a required course at sunday school?

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Incorrect, buddhists believe they are reincarnated over and over until they get it right, as do Hindus and hundreds of other religions. Reincarnation is also life after death.

You, sir, are a victim of your own narrow vision.

Virtually every major religion in man's history has believed in some kind of life after death (despite a very pronounced lack of evidence for such). Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, ancient Canaanite/Phoenician religion -- yes, even Mithraism, from which Christianity stole its dead gods, believed in life after death. Furthermore, many people who are non-religious believe in life after death. It seems to be more of a human tendency than anything Christians have a corner on. Do a logic check once in a while, will you?

All that aside, my link also debunked your notion that religion was on the rise across Europe. That was another flawed generalization and you tried to do a clever dodge around being caught, but you're still caught.

Well Asatru for one, which is the current name given to the Norse pre-christian relgion. If you are valorous, you get to go to Vahalla.

Hellenic pagan religions - Elysian Fields if you're good, Tartarus if you're not, etc.

Islam - eternity for the faithful sitting in gardens eating wonderful foods with a hareem of sex slaves (houris).

Even popular media's secularlized "go into the light" Mythology suggests life after death.

Of course the majority of people believe in an afterlife - the alternative stinks.

It like saying "Hey heres some free money, would you like some or are you good? " to a bunch of people who are homeless.

When Karl Marx wrote Religeon is the Opiate of the Massses he didnt mean it was becuase people liked to get high in church.

I have thought, with Envy really, on how most people can suscribe to one belief or another and it will set their world veiw , they may doubt but its not huge to them. For example often, when i discuss my personal veiws with people often they shrug and say "when you die you go heaven" - obvious they havent done a lot of soul searching on the subject. I think many people are born optimists. And beleif in life after death is the ultimate optimism.

The quote was from an article posted by another poster to this thread. The article was posted to discredit the other article I had posted. But in fact it agreed with my article, as I proved by posting that snippet.

My god, man, where do you get this stuff? I posted the article to dispute your contention that religion was on the rise in Europe -- which it did admirably by noting that it's on the decline in some parts, it's stable in others, and rising in yet others but one can NOT make the general statement (as you did) that it's rising.

Then you pull a trick rabbit out of your ass by trying to link a belief in afterlife to a rise in Christianity. And after a good 6 or 8 other posters point out how utterly wrong you are, you try to claim victory?

You should found your own religion, really. You've got that whole logical fallacy thing down to a T.

On the subject of "life after death"

Ive often wondered why people are afraid of ghosts -

Since, Logically, a verifiable ghost would be proof in an afterlife.

*blink*
*stands dumbfoudned for a moment*
*breaks out laughing*

have you ever heard of The Wheel of Life ?

I read the article you posted from. It was the one that suggested belief in life after death is evidence of Christianity. The article I had posted didn't make such a claim.

If you reject the article you posted, don't complain to me.

Have you done any research on religious history aside from that of christianity?

When they asked about life after death, it concerned spiritual life after physical death. But ride that pony if it suits your purpose.

So basically, that would be a "no". Since it does describe spirtial life after physical death.


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