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Kendra Bancroft
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05-23-2006 11:26
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Cindy Claveau
Gignowanasanafonicon
Join date: 16 May 2005
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05-23-2006 11:26
Well Kevn, if you are all hot fired worked up about wanting to attribute Evangelical Christianity as the font of all that is good in the modern world, are you also prepared to accept responsibility for the destruction of the Library of Alexandria by Christian zealots? Much of the ancient classical Greek knowledge was lost from that petty and vicious act. Who knows how much history, art and science was lost in that act? Perhaps the Dark Ages could have been diminished or even avoided if that massive storehouse of knowledge had not been done away with. I believe it was Carl Sagan who thought that the burning of the Great Library set human knowledge back 500 years. I can't provide a source, but it seems as though it was in Demon Haunted World. I could be wrong. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
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05-23-2006 11:28
The first mass production was the Bible. As an inventor one would experiment with books not considered sacred. Once one has perfected the method one would use that expertize to mass produce the important, sacred scriptures that one so loves. No, Kevn, it wasn't. He mass produced a Turkish calendar before he did the Bible. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
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05-23-2006 11:30
Well then, we should think about what other things the Bible gave us: The Crusades The Inquisition centuries of intolerance misguided justification for condemnation of gays misguided justification for black slavery Kinda outweighs the whole book thing, doncha think?  -S Oh, don't forget the genocide in the 'New World'! _____________________
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Rebeccah Baysklef
Meow, Damnit
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05-23-2006 11:41
Oh, don't forget the genocide in the 'New World'! It seems to me, that scientific progress occured in the West by truly pious men who wanted to explore the glory of God's Creation, even if it meant torking of the Christian Powers-That-Be. To Wit: Gallileo, who was an incredibly devout Catholic, but was wise enough to believe his own eyes, instead of the Catholic Church on the matter of planetary models. Also to Wit: Darwin, who could not deny to himself what he discovered in evolution, even though it contrasted with his personal religious beliefs. Progress is made by those willing to buck the trend, not by those who obey and fit the mold. |
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Sparky Widget
Unsympathetic Bastard
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05-23-2006 13:12
Honestly? No. No? Really? All the awful things I mentioned are outweighed by the sketchy idea that the Bible "gave us books"? Fascinating. |
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Sparky Widget
Unsympathetic Bastard
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05-23-2006 13:18
It seems to me, that scientific progress occured in the West by truly pious men who wanted to explore the glory of God's Creation, even if it meant torking of the Christian Powers-That-Be. To Wit: Gallileo, who was an incredibly devout Catholic, but was wise enough to believe his own eyes, instead of the Catholic Church on the matter of planetary models. Also to Wit: Darwin, who could not deny to himself what he discovered in evolution, even though it contrasted with his personal religious beliefs. Progress is made by those willing to buck the trend, not by those who obey and fit the mold. Two quick counter-examples off the top of my head: Richard Feynman, one of the most brilliant physicist to ever live. Thomas Edison, needs no introduction really. Neither of these men were religious, in fact quite the opposite, yet they both contributed immensely to scientific progress. Organized religion in the West has probably contributed more to the retardation of science, rather than its progress. -S |
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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05-23-2006 13:19
I was reading "Watership Down" last night and thinking how wonderful it is we have access to inexpensive books, thanks to the Bible.
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Lucifer Baphomet
Postmodern Demon
Join date: 8 Sep 2005
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05-23-2006 13:21
I was reading "Watership Down" last night and thinking how wonderful it is we have access to inexpensive books, thanks to the Bible. That book features talking rabbits with powers of prophecy granted by their false god. I denounce you as a heretic. Burn, Heretic, burn. _____________________
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Kevn Klein
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05-23-2006 13:23
That book features talking rabbits with powers of prophecy granted by their false god. I denounce you as a heretic. Burn, Heretic, burn. I'm not Catholic. |
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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05-23-2006 13:25
Supposing that for some reason that it wasn't the Bible that got mass produced, what might the alternatives have been? What other popular cult's guiding documents might have made it to the top one list on the early book hit parade?
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Kevn Klein
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05-23-2006 13:26
Supposing that for some reason that it wasn't the Bible that got mass produced, what might the alternatives have been? What other popular cult's guiding documents might have made it to the top one list on the early book hit parade? The Bible is still the best seller. I don't think that has changed ever. |
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Juro Kothari
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05-23-2006 13:26
I was reading "Watership Down" last night and thinking how wonderful it is we have access to inexpensive books, thanks to the Bible. Now, Kevn, that's just trolling. You claim to want to have a mature discussion, yet when people provide many references that refute your assertion that the Bible is the reason we have books - you ignore them. I think you really don't care about this topic as much as you do trolling and trying to irritate people. _____________________
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Lucifer Baphomet
Postmodern Demon
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05-23-2006 13:30
I'm not Catholic. So? Burn, Heretic, burn. Im the lord of darkness, Yahweh, and I go way back, and hes pissed at you for having truck with heathen rabbits.  _____________________
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Kevn Klein
God is Love!
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05-23-2006 13:34
Now, Kevn, that's just trolling. You claim to want to have a mature discussion, yet when people provide many references that refute your assertion that the Bible is the reason we have books - you ignore them. I think you really don't care about this topic as much as you do trolling and trying to irritate people. Juro, Every reference you posted is countered by my references. You accept yours and not mine. I could continue arguing with you that my references are better, but why beat a dead horse. Don't be upset I still disagree with you. I don't really care if you agree with me or not. No need getting upset, it's just for entertainment. That's why I stopped arguing the point with you. Peace! |
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
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05-23-2006 13:36
I was reading "Watership Down" last night and thinking how wonderful it is we have access to inexpensive books, thanks to the Bible. Interesting. I was reading the Bible and thinking how much better it would have been if written by Richard Adams. _____________________
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Kevn Klein
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05-23-2006 13:36
So? Burn, Heretic, burn. Im the lord of darkness, Yahweh, and I go way back, and hes pissed at you for having truck with heathen rabbits. Beelzebub, I swat flies for fun! Heretic is a Catholic term, as I understand it, God isn't Catholic. |
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Juro Kothari
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05-23-2006 13:40
The Bible is still the best seller. I don't think that has changed ever. Fiction sells, what can I say? On a side note, think of all the money generated by the sale of the Bible. One source listed the number of units sold at around 6 Billion. At, let's say, $10.00USD per copy, that's a bunch of money. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
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05-23-2006 13:48
The Bible is still the best seller. I don't think that has changed ever. 2nd best seller is Chairmain Mao's little red book. What does that tell you? _____________________
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Lucifer Baphomet
Postmodern Demon
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05-23-2006 13:51
2nd best seller is Chairmain Mao's little red book. What does that tell you? Also, Kendra, the Little Red Book, has sold almost one billion copies in just over 50 years, while the Bible has taken over almost 2000 years to sell 6 billion copies, 500 yrs of that with the benefit of the printing press. This means Mao sells faster than the Bible. _____________________
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Kevn Klein
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05-23-2006 16:39
Also, Kendra, the Little Red Book, has sold almost one billion copies in just over 50 years, while the Bible has taken over almost 2000 years to sell 6 billion copies, 500 yrs of that with the benefit of the printing press. This means Mao sells faster than the Bible. The Bible sells more every year than any other book. |
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
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05-23-2006 17:54
Fiction sells well.
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Zuzu Fassbinder
Little Miss No Tomorrow
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05-23-2006 18:03
I was reading "Watership Down" last night and thinking how wonderful it is we have access to inexpensive books, thanks to the Bible. I especially liked the bit where mother rabbits faced with overcrowding could re-absorb their babies into their tummies so that they wouldn't have to give their babies horrible lives. _____________________
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
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05-23-2006 18:16
The Bible sells more every year than any other book. Interestingly enough that's not true. The book that sells the most copies every year is Lord Of The Rings. _____________________
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Kiamat Dusk
Protest Warrior
Join date: 30 Sep 2004
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05-23-2006 20:13
I was reading "Watership Down" last night and thinking how wonderful it is we have access to inexpensive books, thanks to the Bible. You are so right! I mean if books were really expensive I'd have to think twice about burning them, yanno?  -Kiamat Dusk _____________________
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