Abortion "rights" unpopular

I am against rape. I am against abortion. I am against forcing women to become pregnant.

The fact I'm against forcing a women to become pregnant doesn't mean I suddenly support a woman's right to kill the child.

I'm against robbery, but I wouldn't support killing the offspring of the criminal because he robbed you.

I'm against rape, but if you get raped I only support jailing the rapist. I don't support killing the child.

You see, my belief women shouldn't be forced to become pregnant has no bearing on the woman once she is pregnant.

If I see a man raping a woman I would do all I could to stop it. If I saw a woman trying to kill a child, even the child of a rapist, I would do all I could to stop that too.

I hope you see the logic, if not no worries.

You cannot force a woman to be an incubator for the state. Not going to happen now, not soon, not ever.

You lose.

Twisted logic, but I see it. Congratulations, you win a year's supply of pretzels from the Pretzel of the Month club.

Then how did she get pregnant? She didn't want to become pregnant, it was forced upon her. She should have the choice to terminate that pregnancy. You are really not applying any logic to this, you are applying your beliefs.

Are you a foster parent?

Have you adopted a child?

Have you given up your spare kidney to someone in need of one?

Personally, I would have been happier if I had been aborted. 18 years of living hell because my parents had no money or love for me still hurts. Are you going to start paying for my therapy bills?

Do you go pass out free condoms to teenagers in an attempt to keep them from getting pregnant?


It's alot easier to tell other people what to do, than to do something about the issue yourself.

I wish I still had my friend's recipe for Yak-amole. It was delicious with tortilla chips and margaritas.

Ah, so you blame your parents for not aborting you? Interesting. You can have a post-birth abortion by your own choice. But that's illegal.

So you posted something inane again? Interesting.

Here's what I found when I went looking for something explaining it all.

Well no wonder our prisons are over-crowded! They are arresting all those dead people who comitted suicide! Pro-life, but telling somebody they can commit suicide...brilliant.

Pro-choice, but not wanting people to have choices....brilliant

Insert Post 209 repeat except -interesting +brilliant

Nice that you totally ignore any of that thread directed at you and instead change the subject entirely.

Where did I say I don't want people to have choices?

Der is an absolute pro at that. There is no such thing as debate on his planet, creatures just spout counterfactuals and then pretend they are the mouthpieces of god. Silly world, that one is. Unfortunately, they reproduce like rabbits, have a fondness for voting for people who tell them what they want to hear, and have been slowly invading the US until it collapses under its own lack of intellect and gets contracted out to some Asian country.

Actually, that'd make a hell of a screenplay if you could make morons at least as gripping as Snakes on a Plane.

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I remember a time, when a conservative republican meant you believed in fiscal responsibility. When it meant you believed in a small, noninterfering government. Wow, what the hell happened there?

I remember a time when the church was told to butt out, because the church isn't always right. I remember a time when people believed in the freedom of choice, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom FROM religion.

A Right is not bestowed upon the people due to popular vote. Infact, that's fallacious logic, completely. Ad populam. Liberals, in general, believe that people's civil liberties, their RIGHTS, are not compromised. Conservatives do not believe anyone has free will, free rights, free choices. Right wing conservates are anti-freedom, anti-choice, to the fullest extent.

I refuse to follow that flock.

What people consider morally reprehensible is based upon opinion. Everyone has opinions. What is against my morals, Christians don't seem to care about. This also goes vise versa. You can't make law based on morals or opinions. You have to base it on logic.

A woman should always have the right to CHOOSE if she wishes an abortion. That is what liberals stand for. The CHOICE. The world would be a wonderful place if people NEVER chose to have an abortion. The world would be a wonderful place if people were RESPONSIBLE.

But the world is NOT, nor will it ever be a wonderful place. But they still deserve that choice.

Conservatives: If you really want to interfere with everyone's lives, why don't you make sex a crime. Infact, interfere more and force people to get sex permits. Make it so no one can have a kid without getting in severe trouble. Afterall, it's in the bible. Don't sleep around. Right? Want some shrimp with that?

I'm asexual. I think sex is morally reprehensible. So if I went by conservative logic, we should outlaw sex altogether. That, my friend, would solve the abortion problem for a great many people! No sex, no worries!

Chances of that happening? Nil. Because people are people. People make mistakes. In this case the woman gets the punishment. A child should NEVER be considered punishment. A woman should not be forced to have her body, and her life violated because of a mistake.

If a right is unpopular, it means people have the CHOICE not to exercise it. It does not mean we should take that right away for all those who DO exercise it.


She should have the choice.

Just my 2¢, from an asexual, liberal, agnostic, democratic female. Obviously the OP's arch nemesis.

Apparently, nowadays, being a conservative means dictating every part of a person's life including what goes on in the bedroom.

Well Said

I thing being a conservative in the USA means protecting life, including those of battered women. I think it's ingenuous to suggest people are against personal freedoms because they don't support the freedom to kill weaker humans.

Speak for yourself. I'm a conservative and most assuredly do not think that's the essense of being a conservative. You're a pretty good example of exactly why the conservative party is misunderstood these days.

Which part of being a conservative makes you NOT want to protect weaker humans?

That statement is in no way connected to your first nor my response to it. To be blunt, your inventing things I didnt say to respond to.

Then please explain this statement. Do you think social conservatives believe is protecting weaker humans. Or are you a fiscal conservative, which isn't at all what I was talking about?

It was in response to this...


Originally Posted by Kevn Klein
I thing being a conservative in the USA means protecting life,