Abortion "rights" unpopular

You're trying to get me to answer a question that isn't part of the discussion. I never said conservatives DON'T believe that. I said that's not what being a conservative means.

What does it mean then?

It's about embracing traditional values over change for change's sake, generally including a focus on church and close family ties, as well as a focus on what is considered "wholesome" in life.

Before you even try it -

Opposition to abortion is absolutely a part of that for many social conservatives. That is NOT the same thing as saying "Social conservatism means protecting life".

Let's make it clear, then you can argue with the dictionary.

Noun Phrase
social conservative

(US) One who favors social policies based on a particular reading of Judeo-Christian values, generally in favor of public prayer and the right to own guns, and opposed to abortion rights, same-sex marriage and the teaching of evolution in public schools.

Now, if I say a conservative supports human life, this definition supports that. I didn't say that's all it means to be conservative. Did I?

It's hard to see what you say, because you keep changing the way you say it. You contort words and what other people say, into something unrecognizable...

Then just give your opinion instead of seeking to define what others say. k?

I met a girl who could speak deep meaning with her eyes, and she said, "Do you see what I'm saying?"

Which dictionary, pray tell, is that, first of all?

What you DID say, however, could be boiled down to "to be a social conservative, you have to believe this". Which isn't true. You're confusing the symptoms with the disease, to use a strange metaphor.

Instead of picking at how a word is used, how about you give your understanding of the word and how it was misapplied. Or, if you aren't really interested in the topic and only want to derail it, please continue.

I already gave my definition. Forget to read my post?

What dictionary, again?

That was my opinin Kevn.

That's ponderous...

Is this your definition of a conservative?



If so, all those pro-abortionist are very conservative, insisting we keep things as they are, and us pro-lifers are very liberal as we want change. Or does the church part throw that off? Maybe the wholesome part?

When the previous poster used the term "conservative" do you think they had a certain type of conservative in mind? Do you think your definition fits the context of the discussion?

I'll take it you are sidetracking for the sake of derailing the actual topic. But who cares, I'm bored, so I respond

It's wiki dictionary, btw

I meant your opinion on the topic at hand, not the abilities of other posters. lol

What part of my post did you derive "insisting we keep things as they are" from?

I find it funny you disproved your own claim twice with that statement, by the way, so weak it was



Not relevent. I was adressing YOUR post.



You take it wrong.

The thread was dead, anyhow, it can't be derailed at this point.

The context of the use of the word is not relevant? Squirming a bit I see.

Not at all. Avoiding your squirm

Wait a minute here, my post was a comment on the previous posters point. I used the term in the way it was used by that poster. In a forum it's assumed you have read the previous posts before responding to the very last post.

So if you are saying it's ok to ignore context, we'll have to agree to believe the other is in la-la land

Has anyone seen Minority Report ? In it they jail people before they actually commit crimes on the guise that fate had already shown that they'd kill someone if they weren't stopped. I feel this is just like when people condemn abortion for being the same as killing someone.

Fortunately people get a grip and at the end of the movie the prisoners are all freed (some are kept under eye by the Police of course).

You said it was your viewpoint, though

The only real difference is abortion is the actual taking of a life, not a possible taking of a life. Big difference.

In regards to her point.

My opinion of the topic at hand has already been posted, I'm saying that it's hard to gauge what you mean when you say something, that the topic could be just about anything and we don't know it.

Does your personal viewpoint change depending on the subject at hand?

You even have to ask that?