Is Religion allowed in School?

Through this thread I have said the information shouldn't favor any particular religion. I just said the classes could be recorded and verified neutral. Would it upset you that a child would learn more about the faith of his/her family in school?

I don't see the point you are trying to make.

Do you have children of your own Kevn?

I know you don't, honey. It's okay.

This post is meant as a personal insult. Suggesting I'm too stupid to understand your "oh so wise" points shows an elitist attitude. I'm quite used to it, as it's very common.

Also, I have not seen you acquiesce on a single point. So, either you know everything and need to teach me, or neither of us have been convinced by the other's argument.

I haven't called you stupid. I have answered your questions and left you without an argument, as we are supposed to do in debate.

When you disagree, do you resort to calling people insane? If so, I'll not debate you.

So far you haven't debated anyone anyways so why start now?

Let me guess, you disagree with my arguments too? lol

where did she call you stupid?

You missed it?

She said "It's not his sanity, it's his faculties. He lacks the ability to think critically and engage in discussions which are guided by the principles of logic. Trying to reason with this fellow is not possible."

Meaning, I'm not crazy, I'm stupid.

That, simply put, says she thinks I'm too stupid. She is saying I'm so very stupid that I'm unreasonable.

I'm suprised you missed that.

Therefore, I will ignore her from now on.

It is a personal insult in exactly the same way that telling a person that they cannot play basket ball because they are too short is. It's not something that someone wants to hear but it is the truth.

In the hundreds of arguments that have appeared in dozens of threads, you have never acknowledged the validity of an argument nor acquiesced a single point. I repeated the sentence "do you understand that Natural Selection is not a random process" literally a dozen times to you, never receiving an affirmative, despite pages dedicated to explaining it. Instead you evaded.

To prove my point, you will now respond to this in a way that has nothing to do with the information contained herein.

~Ulrika~

I'm surprised a man of Faith surmises that the lack of critical faculties to engage in logical discussion is in someway an insult or the implication of stupidity.

Faith is the antithesis of logic. Up until now you've seemed quite pleased with your illogic.

Did you know the word logic comes from the root word Logos, which is a greek word, originally meaning "The word".

Do you know what that means?

yes --do you?

That is not correct. It is derived from the greek word logos which means "reason"

Yes, I'll tell you. It mean's God's word. The word logos means God's word, and Logos = logic.

Uhm. Not really.

Logic (from Classical Greek λόγος (logos), originally meaning the word...

Wikipedia

But it's implication of being "God's Word" was a creation of greek theologists of the 5th century AD.

Not true, Logos= The word.

Notice it's not, A word, it's not word, it's The word. Study the origin of the word.

Funny thing about words, one word can mean many things. As I understand it, the Greek "logos" meant both "reasoning" (thus "logic" and "word", "speech", or "discourse" (thus "dialogue".

I dont think the ancient Greeks believed "logic" was synonymous to "God's Word." The ancient Greeks were polytheistic, for one. This appropriation of "the Word" as synonymous for Jesus comes from the New Testament writers (esp. John --- "In the beginning was the Word...".

You didn't actually read the whole entry in wikipedia did you?

You are partially right in that I mis-typed AD instead of BC.

The term Logos was applied by Greek theologians who translated the Hebrew Torah into greek approximately 400-500 BC.

Prior to it's application as a biblical term for the word of God it simply meant "words which represent concepts".

Interestingly enough the Greeks believed "The Logos" was the female counterpart of the Godhead. The Romans would later also conceptualize Logos in this fashion, though they called it Sophia.

The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001-05.

Logos


(l´gs) (KEY) [Gr.,=word], in Greek and Hebrew metaphysics, the unifying principle of the world. The central idea of the Logos is that it links God and man, hence any system in which the Logos plays a part is monistic. The Greek Heraclitus held (c.500 B.C.) that the world is animated and kept in order by fire—this fire is the Logos; it is the power of order in the world and the order itself. It thus became the unifying feature of the Heraclitean system. The Stoics (see Stoicism) were influenced in part by Platonism and Aristotelianism in their conception of the Logos. To them God was immanent in the world, its vitalizing force, and God as the law guiding the universe they called Logos; with the additional idea that all things develop from this force, it is called the Spermaticos Logos. The Logos reappears in Greek philosophy in a much restricted form in the system of emanations of Neoplatonism. Certain books of the Old Testament present a principle called the Wisdom of God active in the world. At the same time there was a very ancient Hebrew idea of the Word of God, also active in the world. Thus the Wisdom and the Word of God, sometimes quasi-distinct from Him, coalesced. Philo, in his synthesis of Judaism and Greek thought, naturally hit upon the Logos as a union between the systems; hence his Logos retains qualities both of the Stoic Logos and the Hebrew Word of God. Philo’s God is remote, unaffected by the world, without attributes, unmoving; hence He must have mediation to connect Him with the world. At times Philo’s Logos is independent of God (because of God’s remoteness); at other times the Logos is simply the Reason of God (because Philo’s monism obliges God to act in the world through His mediating forces). St. John in his Gospel adapted the term to his purpose. In the prologue of 14 verses the idea of the Gospel is stated clearly and simply. The Logos, which is the eternal God, took flesh and became man, in time. The Logos is Jesus. The impersonal, remote God of Philo is not there; the intermediate Logos, neither God nor man, has been replaced by a Logos that is both God and man. This explanation of the relation of God and man became an abiding feature of Christian thought.

Indeed. Because Christians stole their religion from the Catholics, and Catholics stole their religion from the Pagans. Hense why super fundamental christians won't celebrate any of the holidays like Christmas, Easter, Halloween, etc.

For the record, generally speaking, Plato was a moron.