Want a baby in secondlife? Be careful

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zomg singing my forum title

I agree with most of your points. However, the OP was inconsistent. It was neither fully RP or fully OOC...therefore, being somewhat provocative. Had she stayed in character, I'd have been impressed, or had she simply complained I would have sympathized. As it was, i was unsure what to think. Which leads me to the store owners reply in this thread. He clearly stated in detail what he'd tried to do to fix any problems. I know the OP replied in return that she'd gotten emotionally carried away, but IMO she didnt counter his post enough to convince me that he didnt do everything possible to satisfy her.

~ just my humble opinion ~

You want to experience the joy of motherhood in SL, and it gets all F'ed up because someone keeps making mistakes... over and over and OVER again???? Sad isn't it??? I encountered many problems, as I have heard many have trying to create a Second Life by adding children to the family.

My SL husband and I thought it would be a wonderful event to have babies. Something to make our relationship even more perfect, to enjoy children, yes i said children. We were expecting twins. At a whopping 3500L, which was nothing to us to be able to experience the joy in SL. Well... what we thought would be a joy... turned into a nightmare.

The "company" in SL is, well... how should I say... incompitant?? That seems like just ONE of the many terms that I could use to explain my thoughts and truths about this company. From Day one there were nothing but mistakes, and lack of communication on their end about the baby birth process. # 1 ... My Shape- I was asked to give them my shape so that they could mod it and give it back to me. I made my own shape, so I had no issue passing it over to them. They said they would have it to me w/i 24 hours. When the time came, no shape was passed. I even waited a little more, because I understood that there were many people out there wanting the same service that I was wanting. I eventually asked the female partner at this "company" about the status of my shape, since it was over 3 days late. She acted like she did not know what i was talking about. I had to resubmit my shape to them, A day had passed, when I finally got my shape... I was SO excited to begin this process. Once I put on the preggy shape, to my surprise... it wasnt me. I was about a foot shorter and looked NOTHING like me. I was livid. When msging the 2 partners (HS & MK) I got NO responses. Completely ignored. The male partner immediately logged off. Hmm.. I left a direct, but respectful offline about the mistake. Withing 24 hours I had my shape dropped into my inventory. The nightmare didnt stop there. It went on and on. Making the ultrasound appointment (where i even left work a little early to be there), Mr. MK was no where to be found. Was told by the female counterpart that "he would get to me when he had time". I was livid, once again. The next day, my hubby msged and msged. Wanting to know when we could get another appointment for the ultrasound. Finally, at HIS "convenience", Mr MK tped us to his office.

I wont go into the other "lack of follow-through" into TOO much detail. But it goes on and on, and STILL is going on! When we received the babies with the wrong clothes on that we requested on the notecards initially when we made our order. RUDE, AND DISRESPECTFUL TO THEIR CLIENTS.. is what I can say to sum up the issues. They have their money... so what do they care right?? You are needing THEIR services!

In a nutshell, these people are in a market on SL where they have a great product and they know it. They do have cute babies. However, they treat their clients poorly, and do not make the experience at all what it should be. By the time you are through, you have a headache, and left with an awful experience. I will NEVER EVER refer anyone to this company. If I could, I would boycot their whole company and send them into a slum without a "diaper to piss in" (parden the joke). But that is what these blogs are for right? To pass the word on so others dont experience the nightmare that others had to? If you want to enjoy raising a family in SL, do not go through these people. You will really regret it. I dont regret the children added, but I regret the experience and who we went through. Good Luck out there!

Forgive me if I sound insensitive here, but if you had your heart set on having a SL family and a new baby, why not just chalk up the LL$ loss and go buy another baby? It seems from your post that "not getting the baby" is what bothered you the most...not the loss of your LL dollars. So how difficult would it have been to seek out a new supplier. Iinstead of wearing black and dismantaling your nursery as if you had no other options, wouldn't the logical choice be to seek out what you wanted to begin with instead of crying over spilled milk?

This is a computer game. It has it's limitations.

There are TV's in SL..They need to be implemented.
Which brings me to something. Let's open up the TV venu in SL big and wide.
We need them to be able to function with out having to enter URL's. And they should work anywhere we are.

I can't believe I keep seeing this thread rear its head.

I say rent a n00b, slap a baby av on him, give him a light spanking and call it a day.

your fault for getting it stuck in my head!!!

then of course I had to head to nugs to listen to it which got me in the mood and then led me to find a gem of a show at http://stash.nugs.net/vault/show.asp?artist=2&show=79&cmd=shows which led me to take a dose and spill my brain all over the floor

so, it is ALL YOUR FAULT Cory Edo!!!!

: (looks for smiley with spinning eyes):

ps if you didn't catch that, it was a recommendation. that show is great from just over one month from my 1st shows, the legendary Spreckles Shows from San Diego in December 94. Can't find them online, but they are gems and highly traded, I got both nights on analog.

So your friend gave you the scripts and then got the guy to replace the baby? You and your friend ripped this guy off and you're complaining about his service? Amazing.

Farking hilarious just like the last time.

I hate to beat a dead horse, but there is one issue that I'd like to bring to the plate.

I'm not, by any means, aware of the background information regarding this particular complaint, but some of the things said about her were just really awful.

My offering to the plate is this, if you dont know that there may be underlying reasons behind this persons strife, refrain from insulting them.

This may sound silly, but I have a friend who is here on SL. She cannot have babies in real life, atleast not in the past 8 years of trying. Not since she delivered her last baby..dead.. She is now pregnant on second life. Imagine how screwed up it would be for her to go and pay out her money expecting a "fool proof" pregnancy, and bypassing the risk of losing yet another "expected" baby, only to have been robbed of her money.

I realize this is a "virtual reality", but when you have lost a child you deal with it whatever way you can. This may sound foolish to alot of people, but thats life! People have different ways of dealing with things.

After all Second Life is intended to be the life of your alter ego, and for some, maybe even the life they wish they had. I saw how truly happy indeed my friend finding out she was pregnant was. And I really cant think of any rational reason why someone would begrudge her the tiniest bit of happiness by not making good on the promise of delivering the baby to her. And for God's sakes why would anyone say horrible things about her and plaster images such as the ones posted here, if the owner of said clinic took her money and happiness away. Not to mention gave her a really shitty ass experience in SL?

Incase any of you harrowing insulters have overlooked this... Some peoples real lives SUCK in every definition of the word. Some use second life as a way to "escape" the real world. Who in the hell are any of us to judge what should or should not have anyone upset, or happy for that matter? NOBODY!!! And the fact that some of you have taken it upon yourself to use this person's upset as personal amusement brings up a question of dignity in my mind's eye. Quite easy to point the finger at someone else's "alleged" insanity while you're busy getting your jollies off by torturing them over their misfortune.

Now, I realize that this poor woman posted on this forum to "infact" get feedback from the community. But I mean come on? Was all of that juvenile banter really needed? The fact that, I suspect, it gave some of you warm fuzzies to attack her character and mental health frightens me a bit. *sighs*

Anywho, I'm done, just had to state the obvious here. Maybe it is over the top, maybe it is strange. But "if" someone is in "mental" distress, I should think belittling them would be of absolutely no help. Just a thought.

Getting bad service, bad products for something you paid good money (dollars or lindens) or all of the above are very good reasons to be upset about. We all have experienced something like that somewhere along our RL and SL lives. Hell, I would be rampaging now if someone scammed me.

However what I and I'm sure more than one person pointed out is the concern over the overly huge emotional attachment over something that isn't 'real.' SL is an escapist fantasy come true but it is in NO way will it ever replace RL no matter how sucky, deplorable and difficult real life is. People who emotionally, psychologically invest in imaginary lives and are affected by it greatly are and will be viewed as people with 'issues,' very big fruits-and-nuts issues.

Now, I realize that this poor woman posted on this forum to "infact" get feedback from the community. But I mean come on? Was all of that juvenile banter really needed? The fact that, I suspect, it gave some of you warm fuzzies to attack her character and mental health frightens me a bit.

As for feedback, I don't think she can say that she didn't get any. Feedback can be in the form of anything, constructive or otherwise especially here in the public forum. If what you mean by 'feedback' to be 'pity' then I'm sorry, the forums is the LAST place to look for it. Posting in a public forum opens your post to all kinds of replies, mocking ones included.

I think what Sinnocent was referring to was not pity but compassion.

Oh mans I will absolutely check that out. Up to '95 is really my favorite time period for the band and December of '95 was my first show in Binghamton NY - I'm sure the one you linked to is classic, I will absolutely grab that one. And I know people that would trade you their entire glass collection for those analog tapes.

Best part of my last ever show (Saratoga Springs farewell tour) - they played NICU. Of course.

Compassion and pity do not mean the same thing. They are similar, but have different connotations.

coco

Just a thought, but Second Life is not intended to be, equiped to be or definitely not qualified to be a psychological aid in any way. Transfering emotional needs and issues to virtual objects is not healthy, no matter what heart-felt justification for it has been given in this long thread, and should not be enabled by others, nor should anyone expect people who are NOT support personnel, psych professionals, or willing to engage in this level of emotional support to handle the situation in a supporting fashion. Period.

Blaming others for not participating in the unhealthy psychological support process shows a real lack of understanding of these key points, and I think the best ever you could expect (and what should happen, ideally) is Utter Silence in response. Best to go to people who are willing to react the way you want them to react, e.g., your friends, not post eTrauma to public boards. That's like begging for further trauma on the Internet (though if psychodrama is your meat and potatos, I imagine it could be intentionally done!)

This brief reality check brought to you by the letter C. Outraged flames may be directed to the local First Life human services outreach program of your choice, but not to me.

While I didnt just fall of the 'Yam Wagon', I am fully aware that the "prim baby" isnt real....

What is real, however, is the deception.

People are on here ALL the time complaining about how they've lost their inventory. I myself wrote a post about this very thing. People have drafted letters to the lindens telling them to forget their tier fees. This is the very same concept. All the "things" I lost in my inventory were just "objects" but ya know what? They were MINE. I did not EXPECT to be robbed by this game. Those were my things that either I spent MY money to obtain, or MY time and effort to make.

That is the same thing as this woman. Yes its just a pile of wood to some of you, but she not only put out her cash for the 'baby' itself, but also in furniture, the time spent decorating, and what was supposed to be a 'special' moment with her new second life hubby.

The attacks on her were ludicrous!

And I'm sorry "Webster" but compassion and pity are VERY different! It is easier to just stand around and suggest that you pity a person because YOU think they're a tad screwed up. It is quite another thing to have compassion for that person. To know that while you may not agree with everything they've said, you agree that a wrong was placed here.

What this guy did was fraud, plain and simple. This lady wrote a forum thread with the soul intent of WARNING those that may want to have a second life baby themselves, that they may very well get ripped off.

And come to think of it... If everyone thought the way most of you in this thread feel, this guy would SURE be in business! Rake in ALL the dough and put forth NO effort. I'll just take their money and run.. No need to give them their product. And all the customers are to say what? "Oh well, it's just a pile of prims." "No big deal!" Yeah, that'll happen.

I generally dont post in this forum, tho I do browse through it. I try to avoid drama at all costs. But then a thread comes along that is so uncalled for that the decent person in me has to say something. Such was the case here.

All I'm saying to you all (the rude ones anyways) is that it wouldn't have killed you to cup your hostility. You dont care about a stack of prims that form a baby that someone instrusted their faith into to being delivered, but you do care enough to viciously attack someone who you dont know from a second hole in your ass!

I dont know. I guess its really a judgment call decided by your character. I'm glad my character, my conscience, would never allow me to treat another human being the way some of you do. And the fact that, for some of you, it just blows your dress up.. is very depressing. Online, you can be whoever you want to be, its a shame that some take it as an opportunity to actually reach out and lash a person across the globe. Technology... Hoo-freaking-rah!

Sure can!



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Have to agree with you Leck.. People getting this upset over prims is just wrong..

If they highlighted the fact they were scammed out of a product, rather than acting like this was a real baby they were talking about, the responce would've been very different..

People do tend to ramble on in irratic ways when they feel something is wrong or screwed up? That has sure as shit been proved in this dooky thread!

Compassion does not mean pity, despite what your crap dictionary says. Unless of course, it's a cultural thing, and in the US they are synonyms.

Compassion means sympathetic empathy.

Pity means being moved by another's plight.

That is why you can actually insult someone by saying "I pity you", but don't get the same effect if you say, "I have compassion for you".

I don't think anybody has been 'blaming others for not participating in the unhealthy psychological support process'. Indeed, I don't know where that has come from - it bears no relation at all to the reality of what has gone on in this thread.

Utter silence would be acceptable. Ridicule is not. It's as simple as that, IMO.

They are not synonymous in the U.S. either. And in any case, things which are not identical in meaning are often listed as synonyms. Check Roget's thesaurus and tell me that everything listed under each word means the exact same thing.

If words listed as synonyms were actually identical in meaning, we would have only a couple of thousand words in the language.

coco

Huggggs cape and Ang

Wait, so you left work early to go to an ultrasound appointment in a VIDEO GAME? You're trying to have a baby in a VIDEO GAME? You're willing to pay 15 dollars for a baby in a VIDEO GAME?

What the hell? Am I missing something vitally important? To me it just sounds like someone is nuts.