200m BanLines!

What you've seen may not be what actually is.

Well, this shows no signs of being agreed on hear (or of even straying back into civility).

More to the point; if you feel that the decision to not allow flyovers to the general public lessens the SL experience and should be changed, what's the best way to address it to the Lindens?

Unlike you, I only ban those causing me problems, not over posts in forums. Oh, btw, I consider those flying near my skybox to be greifing.

See how easy it is to just turn that around on you? Grow a clue.

it was a bit anoying before when you would see somewhere you wanted to get to like your friends place a couple of lots over and you ended up hitting into ban walls.. but you could deal with that beacuse you could fly over them and carry on... they were a little short but this is just over doing it at the moment.. may be just about 3 builders tape mesure high not that high... i can see why they did it but it's just causing too much problems with getting about sims... i can see why they thought that way but it shoudn't be further than you can fly or so it goses into the clouds.
i realy feel sorry for anyone surronded by private ones, since at least with mine i'm only traped on 3 sides... where as if the other 3 were private ones i'd be completly tapped... the thing is it dosen't help privacy anyway... since of cam distance the only people it helps is sky boxes.. but i don't feel the urge to anoy the casual commutor... personaly i don't mind them..

Ditto.

I can't find Jonas' comment about 10 seconds being long enough to 'rifle' his skybox.

1. What message is that in?

2. If his parcel is so small I can reliably reach his skybox from the edge of his property and even begin to search at its contents before I'm ejected, then I don't need to even enter his parcel to 'rifle' his skybox just as effectively by steering my camera there.

Jonas: you need to explain this better, I can't figure out what the hell I can do in ten seconds even on a parcel as small as a first land that I can't do more effectively at my leisure from just outside it.

Umm yours really makes no sense though, that would be like somebody walking past your house on a sidewalk. Now if that person were to stop and look in the windows, yeah, then by all means, eject them!

You are causing me problems in a SL related way, therefore you are banned from my sl property, see how that works?

I'm not the one claiming to see things

It's post #245
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Visit Coonspiracy Central. Banlines to the north of us, banlines to the west of us, into the valley of death... ahem.

I took down the airstrip I was working on... there was a red wall right at the end of it!

You mean I'm imagining the 'oh it makes your neighbours sl lives more difficult.'

Nope. And thats an emotional argument. Saying you hate it when flying by to get no warning..thats emotional too.

Wanting to avoid losing my aircraft and having my client crashed is NOT emotional.

Wanting to keep you away from my skybox also isn't emotional. Guess whos opinion trumps?

What, another one?

[beside the fact that your argument makes no bloody sense at all]

OK, how about a 30 foot red wall that sprung up in front of the airstrip I was building, over a parcel that has never been visited since the week it was bought, and that's got nothing but test builds on it?

That's as real, solid, and concrete (hell, that wall's harder than concrete) an example as I could want.

So you're saying you ENJOY crashing people's clients?

Where is your skybox so I know to stay away from you and avoid your bogus AR's?

Bit of a tangent here, something that's got my gears grinding.

Why must the solution often given to wanting higher security to be 'get an island'. Not everyone can afford this. I doubt the average 516 land holder can even consider this an option. Should they rent from an island owner? No, I don't think that's a good idea either. What if the owner decides to sell or just kick everyone out. Not to mention the greater sense of community on the mainland. Wanting better controls on our land does NOT mean you don't want to be a part of said community

Now let's say for sake of argument that everyone was able to and did get an island instead. What's left of the mainland that's worth flying over, large empty spaces? Are you going to hop islands instead? You still have the other issues with mainland travel, biggest being sim crossings. I think in my days flying about I've had far more trouble with sim crossings than with orbs and access lines.

Now, I agree that 'restrict parcel access' should perhaps be lowered, but still, a bit higher than its initial token gesture (60 - 75m really sounds about right for me, for best of both worlds) and 'ban' should be kept where it is, or perhaps extended even higher.

In this n00b's emotional opinion...Freyr's, not yours.

Actually, by your own admission, your desire is emotional. You find it disturbing.

By contrast, your solution creates a tangible loss of time, makes navigation difficult and dangerous, introduces the potential for property loss, and and potential to crash the client.

I leave the land under my skybox unbanned..its open, with an autoreturn. If the premium is still active, perhaps its prim farmland.. either way I'd talk to the person and see if they would just set an autoreturn in this case. Or turn the airfield the other way.

Difference: I own the land. By contrast your solution ruins sl for me. On my land.

In linden labs opinion: the land owners. Yours is insignificant and not meritting concern.

What is my solution - that I haven't given - and why does it ruin SL for you?

Why? There is nothing anyone can do with access to your skybox that can cause you damage, that you can't prevent by dropping this script into your poseballs...

list allowed_names = ["Jonas Pieterson", "Jonas Altman", ...];
default
{
  changed(integer mask)
  {
    if(mask & CHANGED_LINK)
    {
      key avatar = llAvatarOnSitTarget();
      if(avatar != NULL_KEY &&
         llListFindList(allowed_names,llKey2Name(avatar)) == -1)
      {
        llUnSit(avatar);
        llEjectFromLand(avatar);
      }
    }
    else if(mask & CHANGED_OWNER)
    {
      llRemoveInventory(llGetScriptname());
    }
  }
}

This is precisely as useful as your security script, and inconveniences no-one.