200m BanLines!

PWND!!

Actually on my plot my opinion is the only one under consideration. If I'm not satisfied with the next change I will take whatever measures I need to to gain satisfactory privacy even if it is by necessity more draconian that what i would accept as a workable minimum.

Consider this, what if all land was on the restricted list? The only place you could visit on the mainland is yours the now high population/lag welcome centers and the small amount of "public" land. What a great place Second Life will become! It would be as much fun as visiting the maxi secure or flying on an airline. All of this in the name of your "privacy" which you still would not have.

Oh what is PWND??

LL's World > Your Plot

I alrdy spend the vast majority of my time on my land. And pwnd is newb speak for owned.

Jul 2004 > Oct 2005 != newb

Indeed it's a collection of thousands of people saying "my" plot. Each with their own ideas of private and public access. And no amount of arm twisting or legistlating will make those who want their privacy give it away to you. What you want is access to other people's land. You have to convince those thousands of land owners that the proposed balance is good enough for them individually. Not just tell them their desires are unacceptable. Or they will collectively flip you off and get their privacy one way or another which could be far worse for you. If you convince LL of an unsatisfactory solution to the majority of land owners wanting privacy you'll see the results and won't like it.

lol

Actually, no, I don't.

lol ok believe as you wish lets hope your ego doesn't come back to bite you. I'm not gonna debate it further. If I don't like the result I'll craft my own result I like and don't come whining to me if you bounce off it.

Can you translate your conversation for those of us whos first language was not English. I don't have a clue to what this means.

And dont whine if you get in trouble if you use methods LL doesn't approve of

Whats REALLY stupid about this, is that, If I were so inclined, I could launch a centurion missile with push turned on, and hit your land with it from ALL THE WAY across the mainland from you, pushing everyone within 96m of the point of impact, now, doesnt this "200m ban wall" thing seem silly when put under that light?

No, not really.

That's a bit like saying a hammer and nails are useless becasue those pipes are made of steel. You're asking the wrong tool to do the job.

Ban lines are for you run-of-the mill greifer who just wants to annoy folks and get a reaction. Can't get a reaction from two sims away.

the real solution to the griefers bombing you is to turn on "no outside scripts" that will stop those pushbombs. what LL SHOULD do is make scripts from objects owned by people on your blacklist not work. That would solve the problem a lot better than this wall thing.

Besides, the "across the mainland" thing was an EXTREME example, one could just as easily lob a pushbomb a couple meters over the line, as previously said. heck, I have a gun that rezzes a whole pile of physical objects 50m over the point where the bullet impacts. those walls are basically useless against anyone with a gun of any sort. all they are doing now is keeping people from flying freely over the land at a decent height.

It would help - I think it would be better if objects and scripts from the banninated would cease to be on parcels they are banninated from. That would really cut way down on the available annoyances. Wouldn't eliminate 'em thogh. Problem with the greifer typs is they're more clever than they are smart, ya kno?

Nice thought but on group owned land turning off outside scripts or creating objects turns off everything even scripts owned by an officer and set to group. Those functions are useless on group owned land.

people wouldnt be able o do much but yell obsceneties at you if all their stuff would cease to function after being banned. And this is just in relation to the ban wall increase , having the ACCESS walls go up that high as well is COMPLETELY stupid, doing nothing more than making un-assisted flight nearly impossible on the mainland. Seperate those from the ban wall and leave it at 50m =/



Thats only a temporary solution, like I said, they need to make banned persons objects cease to function on the parcel they are banned from.

This is exactly why I don't use 'turn off outside scripts' as well.

I'd love to, and it could have been a useful protective tool. But the fact that it only allows deeded scripts to function kills its usefulness on group land.

If Linden modified 'turn off outside scripts' to not harm group-associated scripts, now we might have something.

If your security system teleports someone home (kill) without warning, thats pretty clearly an Assault. If you just eject them from the parcel, thats arguable, though it would also seem to count as an Assault in this case.

By this I mean for innocent passers by. For people you have already banned or warned, by all means fire away.

I once almost lost a no-copy vehicle because someone's security system sent me and my passengers home without warning, living the aircraft in place. Getting it back was awkward at best.

I like ban lines better than security scripts. They may be ugly but hold no surprises btw my land is open to the public with the exception of a small list of banned residents. The number of which is much smaller than the max of 50 allowed in the land controls. Perhaps the Lindens can it possible to turn off banned lines.
A better solution for privacy types is for Linden Labs to make special sims that incorporate the maxium privacy possible. It would sort of be like PG/Mature ratings on the current sims. The difference would be that each plot of land is entirelly seperate from all others. There would be no interaction possible, none. This way everone would be happy and the amount of them would depend on demand.

Yeah, I know there is a difference, but he is saying there is no difference, and then there is a difference. I just wish he would make up his mind.

OR

Yeah, I know there is a difference, but YOU are saying there is no difference, and then there is a difference. I just wish YOU would make up your mind.

how about a "ban ip" function so that anyone from a particular ip cannot access your area??? rofl....man now THAT would be something.........

Naw - "Ban by machine ID hash"... that'd be the ticket.

wait...
bans are not the same as NO ENTRY red lines..
I do not understand how banning up to that high will affect vehicles etc..
Can anyone explain?