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Are you for or against AV child porn in SL?

Corvus Drake
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Join date: 12 Feb 2006
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03-27-2006 12:50
OT: Bloody hell woman, you can't go telling me you're pretty much in my back yard and leave it at that....

I'll be watching my inbox for IMs. Send me one or ima cry. Little glowy tears.

OK OK enough OT for me too.
Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 12:51
From: Kendra Bancroft
I was thinking of being a cute l'il cowgirl -- not a prostitute --get your mind outta the gutter.


You could always go as Cartman from when he appeared on Maury.
bella Ophelia
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03-27-2006 12:54
From: Kendra Bancroft
I was thinking of being a cute l'il cowgirl -- not a prostitute --get your mind outta the gutter.


You go do that... I'm only concerned with the sexual objectification of children, not someone who doesn't want to grow up.

Just keep your cowgirl's legs together.
Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 12:55
Not much of a cowgirl if she isn't riding something is she?
Kendra Bancroft
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03-27-2006 12:55
From: bella Ophelia
You go do that... I'm only concerned with the sexual objectification of children, not someone who doesn't want to grow up.

Just keep your cowgirl's legs together.



wow --talk about projection.
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Csven Concord
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Join date: 19 Mar 2005
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03-27-2006 12:55
From: bella Ophelia
Good, the first step is for more normal people to see this behavior... people only pass laws when they feel it affects them personally... seeing a few new child prostitutes walking around SL might wake a few normal people up.


I guess simply making a child av means it's a child prostitute. Wow.
Kris Ritter
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Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
03-27-2006 12:56
From: Csven Concord
I guess simply making a child av means it's a child prostitute. Wow.


Those poor prim babies face grim prospects :(
Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 12:57
You know, typically by more "normal" people seeing something more and more often, especially when tempered by idealists' rantings and humor at their expense, tends to make something more accepted as a norm.
bella Ophelia
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03-27-2006 13:00
From: Corvus Drake
You know, typically by more "normal" people seeing something more and more often, especially when tempered by idealists' rantings and humor at their expense, tends to make something more accepted as a norm.



That might be true in this case too. I hope not but it may very well be.
Ewan Took
Mad Hairy Scotsman
Join date: 5 Dec 2004
Posts: 579
03-27-2006 13:02
From: Tiger Zobel
And I still want to know exactly what is the definition of a Child AV....



Someone, somewhere must know...


Hmmm in their profile it says 'I am a child AV"?
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Kiari LeFay
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Join date: 27 Jan 2003
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03-27-2006 13:03
Kendra, does your lil' cowgirl need a chibi fish side kick?

Cuz I know what I'll be doing when I get home...
Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
Join date: 17 Jun 2004
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03-27-2006 13:06
From: Kiari LeFay
Kendra, does your lil' cowgirl need a chibi fish side kick?

Cuz I know what I'll be doing when I get home...


sure --don't all li'l cowgirls have chibi fish sidekicks?
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Selador Cellardoor
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03-27-2006 13:12
Coco,

I am disappointed in your post. You normally get to the root of things.


From: Cocoanut Cookie


One point - this idea that if an actual pedophile acts out his/her fantasies in here, then it's a good safety valve against it occuring irl. Not true. They will do it anywhere, everywhere, and in any way possible, whenever the opportunity arises - the more, the better.


Evidence please? Could you cite the studies in which it has been proved that having sex in a virtual world with a child avatar will lead to the molestation of children in real life. They have to be genuine studies though - not something done under the auspices of a religious or other special-interest group.

If you can't do that, then the above is an opinion, presented as fact.

From: Cocoanut Cookie


There will be pedophiles and there will be children on the adult grid, and almost without doubt are right now. The people who are concerned over this have good reason to be concerned, as it is virtually inevitable.



And those children will be child avatars, will they? I think not. If you are worried about minors pretending to be adults, then that is another matter than what is being discussed here.

From: Cocoanut Cookie

I don't think doing anything to prevent it, though - beyond what Robin stated - would be appropriate. It is the risk you must take in any mature online environment, else there could be no mature environments.



Now there I agree with you.
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Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 13:13
From: bella Ophelia
That might be true in this case too. I hope not but it may very well be.



I do hope you understand my problem isn't with you, it's just with your angle on what you're doing. I'm crusading against the real problem too, you could say. We're on the same side in that, just not the SL venue.

I can tell you, though, there's probably going to be an upswing in ageplay from all this out of spite and an incensed curiousity.
Tiger Zobel
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Join date: 13 Jan 2006
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03-27-2006 13:15
From: Ewan Took
Hmmm in their profile it says 'I am a child AV"?

I check a lot of profiles due to my SL jobs, and that information is almost always not there, even when the character is blatantly a child...

Not exactly a fool-proof definition of a child av, is it?
Zee Feaver
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Join date: 7 Oct 2003
Posts: 37
03-27-2006 13:17
http://www.stopitnow.com/index.html

Alert Signals For An Adult With Sexual Behavior Problems

Someone you love may be acting in a way that worries or confuses you. These behaviors may be a way for this person to ask for help. Many people with sexual behavior problems wish that someone had asked them what was going on or had told them where to call.

Do you know someone who:

Talks again and again about the sexual activities of children or teens?
Masturbates a lot or takes breaks from other activities to go masturbate?
Talks about sexual fantasies with children and is not clear about what's okay with children?
Was abused as a child and won't deal with it?
Encourages silence and secrets in a child?
Looks at child pornography?
Asks adult partners to dress or act like a child or teen during sexual activity?
Often has a "special" child friend, maybe a different one from year to year?
Spends most spare time on activities involving children or teens, not adults?
Makes fun of a child's body parts, calls a child sexual names such as "stud", "whore", or "slut"?

If you do not know how to approach this person or you need other support, please call the Stop It Now! Toll-Free Helpline at 1-888-PREVENT.
vivi Odets
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Join date: 4 Sep 2005
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03-27-2006 13:21
From: Kendra Bancroft
The funny part is --in 2 years I never have --and it's the first thing I'm doing when I get home :::::grin::::


A quick and easy way to start is with Little Red Riding Hood -- an AV so graciously provided to one and all for free in their Library folder!
Ewan Took
Mad Hairy Scotsman
Join date: 5 Dec 2004
Posts: 579
03-27-2006 13:21
From: Tiger Zobel
I check a lot of profiles due to my SL jobs, and that information is almost always not there, even when the character is blatantly a child...

Not exactly a fool-proof definition of a child av, is it?


Yep agreed. It may look like a duck, sound like a duck, tell everyone in the world it is a duck but that doesn't mean it is one. It could really be a spoon. :D
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Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 13:23
The problems with groups like that, unfortunately, start with this:

From: someone
Was abused as a child and won't deal with it?


Because crusading against a thing is as much a compensating action as trying to enjoy it. You've got the sick trying to heal the sick.

If you want to help prevent child rape, donate to a group that addresses rape in general and ask their opinions. If you want to prevent child abuse, work with a group that addresses abuse in general. RAINN is an excellent organization.

Groups like the one you quoted are so purpose-driven that they tend to witchhunt and find problems based on a few signs, even if the person will never be problematic.
Jessica Robertson
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03-27-2006 13:42
From: someone
Or..one might say..as long as there are people that feel their view is the only one that EVERYONE should have and follow, and go about trying to enforce their will on others, that the world will never fully embrace a compassionate, tolerant and just society.


This is the best post I have ever read on the forums.

Jessica
Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 13:44
From: Jessica Robertson
This is the best post I have ever read on the forums.

Jessica



Amen. I'm printing that one up.
Fenrir Reitveld
Crazy? Don't mind if I do
Join date: 20 Apr 2005
Posts: 459
03-27-2006 13:49
So, uh, anyway...

Hey, I just noticed the Linden is falling! Did anyone else know that???
Armandi Goodliffe
Fantasy Mechanic
Join date: 2 Jan 2006
Posts: 144
03-27-2006 15:54
From: Zee Feaver


Do you know someone who:

Talks again and again about the sexual activities of children or teens?
Masturbates a lot or takes breaks from other activities to go masturbate?
Talks about sexual fantasies with children and is not clear about what's okay with children?
Was abused as a child and won't deal with it?
Encourages silence and secrets in a child?
Looks at child pornography?
Asks adult partners to dress or act like a child or teen during sexual activity?
Often has a "special" child friend, maybe a different one from year to year?
Spends most spare time on activities involving children or teens, not adults?
Makes fun of a child's body parts, calls a child sexual names such as "stud", "whore", or "slut"?


One of these is not like the others. Having been in a mostly male work enviroment and having been around the internet a time or two, that one line would mark most of the male population.
Zee Feaver
Registered User
Join date: 7 Oct 2003
Posts: 37
03-27-2006 15:59
http://www.stopitnow.com/index.html

Stop It Now! Toll-Free Helpline at 1-888-PREVENT

Maybe you could call them or email them and ask them about it
Corvus Drake
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Join date: 12 Feb 2006
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03-27-2006 16:02
He'd probably be..."Hey, this StopItNow? Erm...I have a question, I jack off a lot, that OK?"

S.I.N.: "Sure!"

The next day, he's in irons.

This thread was almost off the bottom of the page and someone woke it. Let the effer die.
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