Are you for or against AV child porn in SL?

I believe it takes a child to be involved for child porn or child abuse to happen. Two consenting adults involved in roleplaying, even with an avatar that resembles a child, would NOT involve an actual child and thus not be either child abuse or child porn. It might be distasteful to you, but certainly not illegal.

Ah, David, welcome to Banging-your-head-against-a-brick-wall 101!

maybe they are looking for a spankie wankie?

That's like six concurrent threads in a nutshell right there.

I believe the correct response is "but child porn is child porn".

I'm only 3'1" in SL, that is SO SICK to even suggest!

Ohnoes! Someone call the MPAA!

Everyone vote "for" so this poll looks worse than the thread does.

I submit this counter, then:

Yes, child porn is child porn. Since there is no child porn involved, then no child porn is no child porn.

So by their own lack of logic, using their own illogical thought process, you can come to the logical conclusion that the rest of us smart peoples be usin'. Two negatives make a positive I guess.

aEoLuS Waves, are you still beating your spouse?

(Loaded questions are fun!)

edit: Oh, and I got beaten badly, it hurts!

That is incorrect, Cris, as has been already pointed out numerous times (and bears repeating). The original act was ammended with the following language:



That would clearly allow depictions within SL because they don't meet the requirement of being indistinguishable. Even if the avatars themselves were photorealistic it still wouldn't qualify since it's known that the participants are avatars and so couldn't possibly be mistaken for real children.

The reason the language was inserted was because of the following:



Everything within SL is clearly computer generated. The Protect Act of 2003 does not render depictions of child pronography in SL or similar virtual simulation illegal.

Edit: I should add that if you were using SL to create screenshots that were being distributed outside of SL that were of such a high quality that to a reasonable person they might be indistinguishable from the real thing then this law would cover it.

In SecondLife unless you're on the teengrid, the idea of a child av is moot. The essence behind this entire debate is what two consenting adults are role playing and what they're using to visually represent their fantasy.

I do and do not have issue with this topic.

The issue I do not have is that I could careless about what anyone does in SecondLife as long as it doesn't violate my SecondLife space and rights - even that is a broad statement.

What I do have issue with is the fact that anyone would need to roleplay/ageplay with one of the others acting significantly younger ie, under the age of consent. I would be suspicious of the "adult" role player in real life. It's creepy.


But that is MY morality and while I frown on the activity being discussed I would not presume to force my morality on another.

I would much rather the activity occur here in virtual space or the privacy of someones bedroom in rl, than to truly be acted out on a real child in real life. Again, one has to wonder about the "adult" and their desires...would trying to satiate the appetite here lead to wanting to know what it is like out there?

A long as there are people that think that because there isnt a law against it in their country that this is good (or something you just shut your eyes for) then I need to continu with saying that it isnt good. Its awfull and thank goodness forbidden in a lot of countries.

Now I can understand you getting sick of me, tired and even dont understand why I keep on saying this over and over again. Just as I cant understand you defending this child porn ( more or less) and bring crap about freedom to do what ever you like.
Child porn should not be defendable it should be forbidden especialy in the comfort of the SL homes.

It all started with an opinion from a Linden and my post about that.

Its all against AV Child Porn.

Now keep starting again about that they arent children behind the keyboard so it doesnt mather ( I think that THAT just is the issue.. Adults shouldnt have do Child porn). Just close your eyes and keep on going about the freedom to have porn as a child av in SL.

I still hope that those SL pedofiles stop doing it with Child AV's.

Exactly what Nisa said. That could be my thoughts word for word. Except I'm not that eloquent. Actually I think it's what a lot of us here think. I mean, they think what Nisa said. Not about me not being eloquent. Although a lot of people think that too.

Yah. What were we talking about again?

Other people's freedoms should not be curtailed simply because you can't separate fantasy from reality or a child avatar from a real child. That would be your problem. I find it as distasteful as you do but I have very little tolerance for irrationality, and your argument simply isn't rational.

Well if this is all about AV child porn and not real child porn, then there is nothing to argue. It's now a matter of opinion and not legal...ity.

This post is so full of shit it should be wearing diapers

Or..one might say..as long as there are people that feel their view is the only one that EVERYONE should have and follow, and go about trying to enforce their will on others, that the world will never fully embrace a compassionate, tolerant and just society.

Is your life so boring that you have to worry about someone elses? Is your bedroom so desolate that you need to peek in and police what your neighbors are doing in theirs? Are you so morally superior that you can handily pass judgement upon what other consenting adults do with and to each other? Be careful, lest someone peek into your closets...

Aeolus, was your child av touched by an adult av?

:gets out a prim baby:

Here, show us on the doll where he touched you.

<snickers>

OMG! that was like so funny!

I object to this lewd sexual image! It's obvious these are glazed doughnuts, and we ALL know what THAT means!! Disgusting!

You are a very sick person.

Red, I think I hate you a little, now that damned episode of Drawn Together won't get out of my head.

Mmmm toddler pot pie baked to a golden crusty goodness!!

Not quite as good as good ol roast baby ...but close, close

Find me a "well" one.

I guess we're all sick, I bet 70% of the people here thought that was funny.

...and seeing that you've as much as admitted to trolling I'll be ARing every one of your posts from this point forward. You aren't interested in discussion, or even debate or making a point, you're apparently only of a mind to stamp your feet in as many threads as possible and continue to derail this forum.