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Are you for or against AV child porn in SL?

Spoony Spork
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Join date: 24 Feb 2006
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03-27-2006 09:06
Eer... I'm not voting here, but if you people who think EVERYONE saying they're an adult here is actually an adult... then man, are you naive.

It's VERY easy to get on here if you're not actually an adult. Someone I know RL who is barely 16 showed up on SL, not knowing there was a separate place for teens. I didn't ask her how she got the account, but it was obviously pretty easy for her.

She left as soon as I told her, but I wonder how many other children have done the same, except not on accident?

As a mother, this worries me somewhat :P

Just some food for thought.
Corvus Drake
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Join date: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 1,456
03-27-2006 09:07
From: nimrod Yaffle
I guess we're all sick, I bet 70% of the people here thought that was funny.


The other 30% were trying to find the spot on the doll....
Kiari LeFay
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Join date: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 223
03-27-2006 09:11
Spoony, maybe the methods have changed... But I thought you needed a Credit Card to get onto SL?

The teens that get on here aren't the responsibility of LL, they're the result of lazy parenting.
Spoony Spork
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03-27-2006 09:22
I used a cell phone that's not even affiliated with my name before realizing that was probably a bad idea and added my credit card... since said girl has a cell phone, I'm assuming she did the same. I'd like to think she wouldn't steal her mom's credit card. :/
Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 09:25
From: Kiari LeFay
Spoony, maybe the methods have changed... But I thought you needed a Credit Card to get onto SL?

The teens that get on here aren't the responsibility of LL, they're the result of lazy parenting.



::dons 'W' mask::

Well, I'd like ter make uhm...erm....a .....erm....statement, that's right, on that. You see, Keeareee...this is Amerucuh. Not some 3rd-world country like Idaho, Japan, or New Hampsterdance. We...we have uh....a...uh....responsibility...ter....well we're just a little more grown up is all, so we gotta show the world taht this "personal responsibility" mumbo-jumbo is just a bunch of talk. We're out of the Medium Evil times now.
aEoLuS Waves
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Join date: 10 Jun 2005
Posts: 279
03-27-2006 09:29
OMG I see the light!

Yes playing a child and having porn is good!
Geee, how could I see it different its just a ROLEPLAY!
So You play the pedo dude and I play a little baby girl and you fuck me good in the ass and we all laugh about it! HAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry that I didnt understand it. I thought that is was sick and perfert and that at least a Linden (the Lindens) could make a statement against it in public without you folks on their butts!

But its ok! Come lets have a private pedo party and mabey they can shoot some pictures for my SL friends to hang in their SL walls (ofcourse all private).

< cough >

Anyway I stop with this thread. I am glad a Linden explained a bit more about it all. And therefor it has no use to go on about this. Some of you really showed me some things of SL I didnt knew that it existed.

Sorry if I insulted any of you. You must feel hurt about me telling you that child porn is a criminal act if adults do it.

Sorry sorry sorry. You keep on going!
Cocoanut Cookie
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03-27-2006 09:31
Aeolus is in no way trolling.

One point - this idea that if an actual pedophile acts out his/her fantasies in here, then it's a good safety valve against it occuring irl. Not true. They will do it anywhere, everywhere, and in any way possible, whenever the opportunity arises - the more, the better.

Although I agree entirely with Robin Linden's well-reasoned and well-written policy statement, I would also say this: There will be pedophiles and there will be children on the adult grid, and almost without doubt are right now. The people who are concerned over this have good reason to be concerned, as it is virtually inevitable.

I don't think doing anything to prevent it, though - beyond what Robin stated - would be appropriate. It is the risk you must take in any mature online environment, else there could be no mature environments.

coco
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Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 09:33
Aeolus, attempting to retreat from a whatwithal forum slaughtering by hurling defamations over your shoulder and very poor attempts at sarcasm that indicate you're probably crying right now just emphasizes the tail tucked between your legs as you go.
Nolan Nash
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03-27-2006 09:35
From: Cocoanut Cookie
Aeolus is in no way trolling.

One point - this idea that if an actual pedophile acts out his/her fantasies in here, then it's a good safety valve against it occuring irl. Not true. They will do it anywhere, everywhere, and in any way possible, whenever the opportunity arises - the more, the better.

Although I agree entirely with Robin Linden's well-reasoned and well-written policy statement, I would also say this: There will be pedophiles and there will be children on the adult grid, and almost without doubt are right now. The people who are concerned over this have good reason to be concerned, as it is virtually inevitable.

I don't think doing anything to prevent it, though - beyond what Robin stated - would be appropriate. It is the risk you must take in any mature online environment, else there could be no mature environments.

coco

I'd add to this a bit by saying that yes, there are children on the adult grid, just as there are children allowed to play games like Grand Theft Auto. Ultimately their parents are responsible for that, not consenting adults engaging in ageplay or any other adult play.

If one thing has to go, then it ALL has to go. No sex in SL period. (Not that you're saying anything remotely like that Coco)
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Elspeth Withnail
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Join date: 24 Jan 2005
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03-27-2006 09:37
From: aEoLuS Waves
OMG I see the light!

Yes playing a child and having porn is good!
Geee, how could I see it different its just a ROLEPLAY!
So You play the pedo dude and I play a little baby girl and you fuck me good in the ass and we all laugh about it! HAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry that I didnt understand it. I thought that is was sick and perfert and that at least a Linden (the Lindens) could make a statement against it in public without you folks on their butts!

But its ok! Come lets have a private pedo party and mabey they can shoot some pictures for my SL friends to hang in their SL walls (ofcourse all private).

< cough >

Anyway I stop with this thread. I am glad a Linden explained a bit more about it all. And therefor it has no use to go on about this. Some of you really showed me some things of SL I didnt knew that it existed.

Sorry if I insulted any of you. You must feel hurt about me telling you that child porn is a criminal act if adults do it.

Sorry sorry sorry. You keep on going!



From: Cocoanut Cookie
Aeolus is in no way trolling.


*blink*

(eta) Not slamming you for defending him, CC; you were posting at the same time as him and couldn't have seen the mini-meltdown. Just seeing those posts together had me going '... buh?'.
Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 09:38
Ah well, at least he did that whole open his mouth and remove all doubt thing.
Elspeth Withnail
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03-27-2006 09:41
Am I the only one who finds it really interesting that the most vocal anti-ageplayists on these recent threads are also the only ones who feel a need to post sexually graphic posts?
Nolan Nash
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03-27-2006 09:43
From: Elspeth Withnail
Am I the only one who finds it really interesting that the most vocal anti-ageplayists on these recent threads are also the only ones who feel a need to post sexually graphic posts?

No. Sweet irony eh?

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Memir Quinn
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03-27-2006 09:44
From: Elspeth Withnail
*blink*

(eta) Not slamming you for defending him, CC; you were posting at the same time as him and couldn't have seen the mini-meltdown. Just seeing those posts together had me going '... buh?'.



Indeedy. O.o Ah well.
Corvus Drake
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03-27-2006 09:45
I think most of the naysayers had a negative IRL personal experience, honestly.

A rather alarming percentage of children run into some sort of sexual abuse in their early years IRL. The numbers tend to match up with the percentage of naysayers against Ageplay on SL, at least the loud ones.

You'll notice the OP took a totally different tone after my "show us on the doll" pun. That pun was intended to be double-sided. I wanted to see if it shocked due to the OP's personal experience, and his reaction seemed to indicate it had.

So now we understand a strong possibility as to why his opinion is so colored, though there's no way to assert it as fact. Still, it would explain a lot. I say this because thinking about it, I feel more pity for him than derision.
Cocoanut Cookie
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03-27-2006 09:53
No, I still say he is in no way trolling. This is a serious issue, and being concerned about it is a good thing.

coco
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Taco Rubio
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03-27-2006 09:55
From: Cocoanut Cookie
No, I still say he is in no way trolling. This is a serious issue, and being concerned about it is a good thing.


No it ain't, and no it ain't.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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03-27-2006 09:56
I don't think he or she is actually trolling deliberately, just being monumentally obtuse.

N.B. are the two of them the same person?
Elspeth Withnail
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03-27-2006 09:58
Being concerned about a serious issue is one thing, failing to employ logical reasoning and screaming 'you all want to make CHILD PORN LEGAL' when someone disagrees with you is another. Maybe he's not trolling, maybe he's just very simple-minded, or on drugs... but I'm betting on trolling.
Kris Ritter
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Join date: 31 Oct 2003
Posts: 6,627
03-27-2006 09:58
From: Ordinal Malaprop
I don't think he or she is actually trolling deliberately, just being monumentally obtuse.

N.B. are the two of them the same person?


*BZZZT!*

You have just insinuated the use of an alt and thereby invalidated the entire topic and discussion. We must start over.

So...
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Elspeth Withnail
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03-27-2006 10:00
From: Kris Ritter
*BZZZT!*

You have just insinuated the use of an alt and thereby invalidated the entire topic and discussion. We must start over.

So...


Maybe he meant 'the same person' in a metaphysical sense?
Ordinal Malaprop
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,607
03-27-2006 10:01
From: Kris Ritter
*BZZZT!*

You have just insinuated the use of an alt and thereby invalidated the entire topic and discussion. We must start over.

So...

Dammit, you mean that doesn't get the thread locked? We have to start again? Bumweasels.
Nolan Nash
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Join date: 15 May 2003
Posts: 7,141
03-27-2006 10:02
From: Ordinal Malaprop
Dammit, you mean that doesn't get the thread locked? We have to start again? Bumweasels.

Your sexual slur against weasels has been duly reported. :mad:
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Elspeth Withnail
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03-27-2006 10:03
From: aEoLuS Waves
OMG I see the light!

Yes playing a child and having porn is good!
Geee, how could I see it different its just a ROLEPLAY!
So You play the pedo dude and I play a little baby girl and you fuck me good in the ass and we all laugh about it! HAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry that I didnt understand it. I thought that is was sick and perfert and that at least a Linden (the Lindens) could make a statement against it in public without you folks on their butts!

But its ok! Come lets have a private pedo party and mabey they can shoot some pictures for my SL friends to hang in their SL walls (ofcourse all private).

< cough >

Anyway I stop with this thread. I am glad a Linden explained a bit more about it all. And therefor it has no use to go on about this. Some of you really showed me some things of SL I didnt knew that it existed.

Sorry if I insulted any of you. You must feel hurt about me telling you that child porn is a criminal act if adults do it.

Sorry sorry sorry. You keep on going!


The above is the sort of thing that will get a thread locked. As much as I'd like to lock some threads, I won't stoop that low.
Memir Quinn
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03-27-2006 10:04
From: Elspeth Withnail
Maybe he meant 'the same person' in a metaphysical sense?


Maybe, lots of spirit channeling about, anyway I agree about the likely trolling. I don't like to think anyone could be that... mule-ish, unable comprehend/read without it being deliberate. Intentional or not, in the end he/she was trolling when he/she said they'd just keep posting till they got their way. Empty threat as it turns out thankfully. *shrugs*

So how about those damn mages? ^.-
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