Dear employees of anshechung.com...

Let it never again be claimed that there is not a list.

Although this really isn't the right sort of list and I am not sure if there is a way on or off.

1. Jillian Callahan
   
2. prak Curie
   
3. Nyx Divine
   
4. Cory Edo
   
5. Khamon Fate
   
6. Beryl Greenacre
   
7. Joy Honey
   
8. Sydney Jacobs
   
9. Toy LaFollette
   
10. Aaron Levy
    
11. Gabe Lippmann
    
12. Jim Lumiere
    
13. Ordinal Malaprop
    
14. Flavian Molinari
    
15. Marcus Moreau
    
16. Kazuo Murakami
    
17. Yuriko Muromachi
    
18. Moopf Murray
    
19. Ron Overdrive
    
20. Sexy Partridge
    
21. Newfie Pendragon
    
22. Hugsy Penguin
    
23. FlipperPA Peregrine
    
24. Oasis Perun
    
25. Satchmo Prototype
    
26. musicteacher Rampal
    
27. Argent Stonecutter
    
28. Pol Tabla
    
29. Enabran Templar
    
30. Huns Valen
    
31. Zapoteth Zaius
    

What list is that, the uptight ppls list ?

A list can be labeled in many ways and I did not explore any of these options. It is just a list to me.

It could be any number of things to you. It might just be a list to you but it also might be so much more!

If you wish to see it as a list of uptight people so be it, who am I to argue it is not? I might, however, point out that you are unlikely to find such a list very useful.

It might depend on the culture you belong to, but the way AnsheChung.com distributed notecards is considered spamming where I live, and perhaps in the States, too.

Sadly though, spamming is a fact of life. I would have just hit Discard and never thought of bringing it up to the forums.

Now that it's brought up here, the only thing the spammer can do is to apologise profusely and save half-baked sarcasm and self-defense for later. People don't give a flying fuke to your personal feelings and beliefs when you're part of a business. Get over it and go on with your life.

Finn, I once chatted with you in-world and my first impression of you was a very pleasant, calm and self-diciplined person. I seriously wonder why you're acting so unprofessionally and "childish" here. Obviously I'm not a member of FIC nor forum regulars so don't blame it on "flamers". Read over your posts again and try to view them objectively.

People have different morals and ethics, more so in a multi-cultural world like SL. If you're a business person, or even a grown-up, try to learn to respect different values and not to throw your values down others' throat.

Mixing the situation yet again by trying to turn this around to suggest I need educating on how to treat my customers is once again smoke and mirrors. This isn't about my business, it's about yours and the way you do business. Customer of mine or not, you attitude has been piss-poor over this and as you are representing a business, and not yourself personally, it is easy to seperate you as an individual customer of mine and you as a representative of a business spamming me.

However, fine, I accept your apology and I apologise in return for the "fucking idiot" comment.

Doesn't the abuse reporting just file into a database like most other games?
And after a certain number of reports it goes up the list for the lindens to look into right?
Unless they flaged it for popularity which someone like Ashe would have I would think. Anyone and everyone would be sending those reports because so many know the name.
That is how it works in most services I've seen online anyway. Thou I'm not sure about LL's.

Yoooo Toy!!!

Welcome to SL!

Infrickincredible. They will send a disciplinary letter for someone sending one notecard for business purposes . . . but they will let some IDIOT plaster HUGE BILLBOARDS all over the LANDSCAPE and charge extortionary prices to remove them and that's OKAY cause that's FREE SPEECH?

This little world is completely upside down.

coco

Wrong thread, Coco. Try these:
/108/5e/78682/1.html
/108/ed/77992/1.html
/108/cc/76166/1.html
/108/3b/76093/1.html
/108/7c/75849/1.html
/108/e9/74641/1.html

This thread is about spam notecards.

That notecard wasn't "spam" in the first place.

coco

The notecard in question was, and it is, an unsolicited commercial request and in violation of the CS. Quit trying to hijack every thread for your personal agenda please.

Of course it was. Once again I will explain why. It was an unsolicited, commercial, electronic communication. Additionally, it is against the TOS:

And my question is how can this be against TOS when those landscape signs are not?

Additionally, it is news to me that such a notecard is against TOS. I think what you are referring to is the fact that the TOS has a clause in it against spam.

It doesn't, however, define spam as "a notecard sent out by a business to see if an individual is interested in selling his land," or in fact define it in any specific form, as far as I recall. You are defining it that way. And going to town with it.

If sending out a business notecard were against TOS, then I would already be in violation of TOS three times, because I have sent out three notecards to neighbors of my business who are never on, to see if they would like to sell their land to me.

I guess I am fortunate that I didn't receive three letters about being in violation of TOS as did that person I quoted above.

So: Apparently one notecard sent out by one business to see if another person would like to sell them their land is spam and against TOS. But the Impeach Bush extortionist - that's free speech? Or would you consider that spam, too?

coco

P.S. Correction: I didn't send out three notecards, come to think of it; I sent three IM's because it didn't take that much text to ask if the person would like to sell their land to me.

Wrong thread, Coco. Try these:
/108/5e/78682/1.html
/108/ed/77992/1.html
/108/cc/76166/1.html
/108/3b/76093/1.html
/108/7c/75849/1.html
/108/e9/74641/1.html

This thread is about spam notecards.

Finn and Anshe if you are reading this and god willing you are

This is why Anshecorp has the reputation it does. Anshe you are far from a stupid woman very far from it, nor are you the devil. So, please dont let you or your employees act like it. I hightly suggest, and if you were one of my any clients would reccomend you giving your employees a good solid course in customer relations. Finn's initial deed was not so much wrong as stupid, however his responses via this thread were uncontionably dumb and wrong.

In a reputable setting an RL setting someone who took Finn's response and attitiudes would be fired. I certainly would fire him on the spot.

And Anshe please remember your fame and power and money are potentially fleeting. There will come a day when someone says I can do Anshe one better,, creates another 60 sim area and does it better, then where will you be. Also one day the lindens may decide to just play god and create 60 new sims themselves and offer every Dream Land resident a free plot for life just to show you they can

Fame and fortune Anshe, is fleeting dont let rouge rude and bad employees, deplorable customer service and non exisitant community relations hasten the end of your glory days

It's almost like a desparate cry for attention, over and over and over

Again, this was not a spam notecard.

coco

Of course it was. Once again I will explain why. It was an unsolicited, commercial, electronic communication. Additionally, it is against the TOS:

Interesting that you found that, cause I just went on my own little hunt for that, but instead, found this, under Community Standards:

"Disturbing the Peace
Every Resident has a right to live their Second Life. Disrupting scheduled events, repeated transmission of undesired advertising content, the use of repetitive sounds, following or self-spawning items, or other objects that intentionally slow server performance or inhibit another Resident's ability to enjoy Second Life are examples of Disturbing the Peace. Policies and Policing

One notecard doesn't fit into that definition.

As for this:

(vii) upload, post, email or otherwise transmit any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, "junk mail," "spam," "chain letters," "pyramid schemes," or any other form of solicitation;

That refers more to if I were go come into the game and send everybody an advertisement about my actual real-world business, such as you get on regular e-mail.

If what Finn did is against TOS, then thousands of us would be in violation, merely from trying to conduct SL business within SL.

coco

I am glad you accepted my apology Moopfs. Now I can keep on going the sensitive customer of yours, and if not adressed Sir when asking you questions I need to bring it into forums and start a huge flame war over bad customer service... No, dont worry I would not do that, because its very lame.

In that case, you best be careful.

I must say that quite often I have been contacted by people who has been interested in buying some of my personal land ( or even asked about some build I have made); NEVER has it occured to me to abuse report a person who politely aproach me asking me something.

If this will becaome the standard, say hi to your neighbour and you will get ARed, I am not so sure I want to live in such a triggerhappy community.

Maybe instead of arguing yes no yes no, we should ask , could lindenlab in next update make a change like: Have a setting " do not accept transfers from people not on my friends list" or "automatically discard everything sent" and for the extreme hermits " block IMs from everyone".

I think these changes in the browser would be something we need to discuss, not a single notecard.

Or, much more simply, you could stop sending unsolicited commercial notecards. Problem solved!