Dear employees of anshechung.com...

(sighs and awaits the first time someone actually does buy something with a textured L$ check, and then leaves the recipient to realise there's no bank to cash it at)

I am the anshechung emplyee refered to here.
I think some peoples reactions on a letter/ merry christmas wish is more than childish.
Personally I seem to get all kind of notecards from verious ppl constantly, so i am sure others do also, so how come when I send out ONE notecard in one year to a selected group of ppl, it becomes such a hassle?

I visited a lot of private sims, did not see the owner there, so I left them a letter.

One person politely asked me to not recive any more letters from anshechung.com to which I responded about. If I go around in one year again, having something to ask a certain group of people, there is no way for me to remember who I am not allowed to talk to.

The other person demanded to be taken away from the spam list, to him I explained there is no spam list so I cannot take him away from something that do not excist. Only way would then be to make a list with ppl who I am not allowed to say hello to, ask a question or wish Merry Christmas to and maybe call that list " agressive ppl-list" or "jack ass list", however, i do not think I will do that. I suggest that antisocial ppl who do not want me to ask them anything, or want me to buy anything from their land, simply ban me.

But I guess some ppl always need to find a reason to whine about something, i guess these same ppl call person or companies who has sent them a christmas card also and yell at them.


Merry Christmas to all others than those who wishing it pisses them off

Finn....everyone is familiar with Anshechung.com and knows what their business is. How about just letting people come to you when they want to sell. I highly doubt anyone would be upset if all you did was come by to say Merry Christmas (which by the way not everybody celebrates), and drop them a holiday greeting in notecard form once a year. Let people come to you. Actually the responsible business-like thing to do would be to keep a list when someone asks you to not contact them again. That's what telemarketing companies have to do BY LAW or they can face prosecution. Again, I suggest that if your only motives were social that people would not be complaining.

Wow. Are you serious? You cannot be serious.

This is why AnsheChung.com has a public relations problem, folks.

Here, finn. Read this very carefully. Make sure your boss sees it, too. This is how you respond when your spam offends people (Hint: it doesn't have anything to do with calling your potential customers childish or justifying your behavior.)



That's how real companies handle things.

I actually only receive notecards (maybe a couple a week) from people within my groups for my private sim. I rarely (like once every couple months maybe) receive any cards from other, random people.

I could have come to you and asked not to receive these anymore. This thread was already here so I thought I would contribute. But the fact of the matter is that this delivery of advertising, whether or not you're giving wellwishes, is spam. And it is unwanted spam.



This is the way to do it. Let people come to you if they wish to do business. In my first life, if someone begs for money or business by throwing an ad at me individually/unwillingly, I rarely do business with them.

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So please take me off your advertising list for any future "wellwishes".

MM

Exactly. That's how spam works, it's almost always ONE notecard/email (etc) sent to a selected group of ppl.



Sure there is. It's called a notecard. You write down their name on a list you title 'people not to spam'. Then when it comes times to spam, you compare your list against that list. Easily done, and can easily last from year to year.



A banning if you're lucky. You're also lucky I dont have a private island (I own a mainland sim), because I would've made it an abuse report.



There's also lots of people who are fed up with spam, and the self-righteous attitude of spammers that say 'I only sent one notecard, I'm being victimized'.





Merry Christmas to you. May it also be joyful and filled with new knowledge of terms like 'opt-in' and 'opt-out'.


- Newfie

I am aware that a business like professional answer would have been something like, Yes ma'am I will remove you from the posting list, however, this would have made me lie, since there was no list. If I had promised never to ask a person a question again about their products or what they own, I might have made a promise I could not have kept, because who knows, maybe in 2 years I had wanted to buy 200 pairs of skates, and I might have aprocahed a person selling these and not remembering that I was not allowed to ask this person anything, so I had broken a promise.

So I gave the only humanly right answer to the 2 persons, no empty promises.

And I repeat, I am not going to make a list of people who i am not allowed to talk with, check each time the list if I have a question about anything. I think people here should be adults and if I ask " can I get a discount if buying 20 of your items?" They can chose to ignore, say no, or yes. No need to abuse report for asking a question. I think that is just childish.

I think this is more about people beeing anti-anshe , and now they find something extremely small they chose to over react big time on. I ask this thread will be closed since names have been mentioned and this was started for the pure reason of bashing ( for sending a letter to a few individuals, not even tryin to sell anything)

You are incorrect, my friend. This is about me not wanting any of your crap pushed on me. If I wanted something pushed on me unwillingly, I'd wear a big target on my chest and go stand in Rausch.

So, next time you want to advertise, keep it to people you have done business with and not random sim owners whom you have never met.

MM

PS: I have only owned my private island for 2 months - you think I'd want to take a 650 USD loss now? Think again. Nice try though.

Say it with me, ladies and gentlemen.

Wow.

Wow

Not me. The only time I got a notecard dropped on me remotely it was because the sim owner wanted to let me know they didn't like a script I was running, and I was kind of ticked off that they didn't IM me instead of dropping their "rules and regulations" card on me.

I'm sorry you're getting spammed by notecards, but for people who aren't used to it it's really annoying.

I'm floored by this statement. Someone who wants to conduct business in an electronic arena who refuses to maintain an opt-out list? In this day and age?

This is so completely out of touch with reality, its simply amazing.

It's a wonder this organization has any success at all, what with their deft public relations skills on display for all to see. One wonders just who their customers are? And why they put up with such treatment.

No, telemarketing companies BY LAW have to check against a *single* opt-out list maintained by a central clearing house.

Individual "opt out" lists do not work. The email spam problem proved that model unworkable a decade ago. If LL had a "no notecard" list and would TOS people for ignoring the list, that would work. Giving everyone "one bite" at every user doesn't.

It's not a problem yet because SL is small enough that social pressure still mostly works. But down the road, when it does become a problem, individual opt-out lists will fail the same way they have in every other medium.

It would also have ben a spammer's response.

The business-like response would have been something like "I'm sorry, we won't do it again".

Given that you're going after the equivalent of million-dollar estates, you should be showing million-dollar class. When a realtor's operating at that level, they don't just send a notecard. Send a gift, a real paid-for copy-no-transfer gift. Something that costs a hundred lindens or so. Talk to one of the content creators at Plush, and see if you can get a discount on 1000 copies of an outfit... I'm sure you'll be able to cut a deal so that the total outlay would end up being reasonable.

That would show class. People would remember you well. That's how you get sales.

For the record, this particular Christmas greeting you spammed me with was entitled "Buying private sims." Why, the title alone fills me with the spirit of the holidays!

I would understand a need of a list if I sent out notecards regulary to a group of people. I do not see what a list is good for if I ONCE during my SL lifetime ask a sim owner if he has considered selling his sim.

What comes to spam, it is something sent out randomly and to people who it do not concern. Like if I get an offer for a vagina tickler in my e -mail I consider it spam, if I get an offer to buy a shock absorbers for a Borgward, I consider it an offer ( since I have a Borgward car). If I need the shock absorbers is up to me to decide and nothing the e mail sender could know. So I compare what I did here to the later, I did not send the notecard to masses but only to a few, I also did send it because the owners were not in their sims at the time I visited. If they had been I had said hello and chatted a bit. I also spend time in their sims, from 10 minutes to 30 minutes, I do not hear anyone complaing about getting dwell money from my visit, or anyone complaining I did some shopping in some of the sims, no, just a lot of hassle from mostly 2 people for me saying hi, if you want to sell your sim let me know, and merry christmas.

Well fix it so it wont be a lie... you know how to make a notecard right? That is just a temporary fix. Being the largest realtor in SL i would figure the resources of the company would more that cover something as simple as a nocall list. Or do they just hire ppl and tell them to look for land to buy from ppl?

Blah... No Spam != No Contact.

You are just making excuses at this point to alienate anybody who tells you not to send them your notecards. hollow threat to take your business somewhere else dont do anybody any good ... What i suggest your company does is set up a company shared no contact list. Make it as public as possible that you can be added to the list and wont receive anymore spam from an employee if they add themselves to that list. There are 1000's of way to do this in SL.

Pol, that was what it was about. You have a sim right? I said hi, I am interested in buying, and merry christmas. If you do not own a sim and has gotten this notecard, I am terrible sorry. If you have a sim and do not wish to sell, then do not sell ( do not even keep in mind me the day you wish to sell, give it back to lindens for 0, whatever makes you happy), just have a Merry Christmas No idea to make such a big fuss out of it

Besides, I did read each ones profile, NONE said do not send me notecards, do not ask about my business, nothing like that. Maybe people who get jumpy over an Im or notecard or basically anything , could pit some note in their profile telling them that they are not to be contacted under any circumstances, just an idea. Would save others from "drama" like this

Ahh, that's a great justification - because they are not there, you will send them spam. You could also leave an object on the parcel that shoots an ad-covered watermelon at any user who walks by. Hey, they were not there when you came by, so why not bug them when they are.

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Try this innovative method: setup a shop, and advertise it in "Find". Any interested parties will surely find you, especially associated with Anshe Chung, Inc.



Oh, give me a break. It is -your- job not to spam us. It is not -my- job to ask that I -not- be sent things I don't want. "Well, Officer, he never said he didn't want that bullet in his head."

MM

Spam is unsolicited email, regardless of the offer. Or in SL's case unscolicited notecards. Imagine if every business in SL did this.

Finn, your best bet in these situations is to ignor the thread and come up with a system to not piss these folks off that make you money.

You have a list for you X-mas greetings, somone asked to not be included, you take there name off the list.

There is no list you say? Then make one. Then take the persons name off it.

This you don't like us cause were sofa king good attitude kind of rubs potential coustomers the wrong way.

My profile doesn't say "Please don't IM me with obscene material" but I have every right to be annoyed if someone does.

Does your boss care when you make her look bad in a really public fashion?

You are a favorite.