SLCC 2006: August 18-20th, San Francisco, Fort Mason Center!

Quick, buy those tix now -- the rivalry between the Giants and Dodgers is legendary and the meet ups usually sell out. And with three months to pull it together, who knows what home run Barry'll be gunning for.

You didn't reply to any of the content of my post, but point taken. I'll rephrase my statement: "That said, we'll definitely take these criticisms into account when planning next year's convention(s). I just wish a single person who consistently had disagreed on this issue had IM'd me or shown up for a meeting. That would have been a start."

Evangeline: It sounds like Lusk and Taco will be there in force! This should be fun.

I'll get the Newcastle for Siggy.

And...the baseball outing sounds cool! If you'd like, I'd be happy to post it on our web site once its up as an option if you want to try to get a group together...although the advice about getting tickets soon is probably good. Who knows, maybe Barry Bonds will still be stuck on 713 then. We can only hope!

Regards,

-Flip

I'm excited to be going this year, as I've never been to San Francisico. I hope everyone can make it!

It looks like I may be able to attend. I am getting very excited

I for one dont see the real problem. newfie you gotta be choking on those sour grapes by now, let it go man, let it go, the stress of imaginary slights will kill ya bruh.

SF is a hot ass town lots to see as was NYC, sorry I missed it, and hella yeah Miami rocks lets not dismiss the Bo mans home town!

Let it be known BushidoBrown Hightower, Jeantte Haily and the one the only Boliver Oddfellow will be in the house in full force and effect.

Flipper I want in on Siggys burger request and conidering my involvement with a little sim called Dublin and a tiny little concert called Dublin Rocks, make my beer a Guiness chilled to 45 degrees please

See ya ALL is SF- IVM will be in the house!

PS: Jennyfur Flipper, and all the others who worked on the SLCC- good job guys, thanks for steppin' to the plate

I don't care where it is because i'm in the direct center of the US. So everything is equally far-the-hell-away.

So, Luskwood will be there. Verified that with Eltee, Arito and Liam. (uh. and me. i guess. maybe.)

But we will be packing heat. And nunchucks. So don't get any ideas.

Fate Gardens will be there as well. I verified that with, well, me ha ha.

You'd better.

Or.....something.

So tell me why is your ability to attend the SLCC more improtant than mine? I mean no matter where it is held, someone gets shafted. So why should I get shafted instead of you. I couldn't attend last year, but somehoe I just don't feel left out of the SL community because I was not involved in picking the location.

Really if your only connection to the SL community is based on having a say in where the SLCC happens, then you aren't really connected at all. If you can't show up in person, then show up at the virtual version.

But attacking the whole insitution as not being community based because the locationwas not voted on is silly. Basically there are people who will be unhappy with the location whereever it is, even if they are consulted before hand.

You could throw a drat at the map of a globe and hold the convention there, and somepeople would still come, and others would not. Thus the location of the SLCC is immaterial.

As far as calling it a community convention, well if the community is invited, even if they don't pick the location, well its still a community convention. I doesn't have to be done by the community, if it is done for the community.

And yes adolescent grandstanding is my expert opinion in relation to this subversion of a topic.

I will be there and holding a service. I hope many of you will attend. I am looking at a few places nearby to hold my Sunday Morning Service.

I'll only come if it is on mature land and we are allowed to use poseballs. lol

well.. Beau did say he was getting excited.

Hm, San Francisco sounds like PG to me. Guess I have to pass. I don't have enough money for a plane ticket anyway.

Yanno, life would be so much easier if they actually did as suggested and read the original posts, instead of making this off-the-target question every time.

My beef with the location is, was and always has been about the decision to be in San Fran, not where I am physically located. As stated thrice, read the original posts, it's all there in great detail. It's made nice and obvious what my reasoning and motivation is.

Then again if you can't lift a finger to make sure one's opinion is an informed one.....then you may as well yell 'zOMG FIC!' and skip the entire concept of rational and adult discussion.


- Newfie

Newfie my man, Pinky never does take over the world, and dude neither are you. Give it up, bruh its old news move on my man move on.

On a side note, please let me know if that statement ever works for you.


- Newfie

it sure does. and I suggested most respectfully you follow my advise for your own sake. I dont want to see you on high blood pressure meds and this is obviously making you edgy.

Thanks for the advice. However, as you can tell, I'm quite capable of deciding these things for myself, and also as capable of speaking about them.

Now, do you have any actual statements that are relevant to this thread? I'd be more than interested to hear those thoughts.

- Newfie

Gah, enough you two! Try IMing each other in-world, we don't want to hear your problems.

It would also be much easier if you gave us the Cliff Notes. I don't have time to sift through 600 posts that were put online six months ago. Care to give us the skinny? Or will you just continue referencing it?

...

On another note, does anyone here wonder why the North American Auto Show is held in Detroit, Michigan? I mean, nobody really got consulted; I don't remember a CNN poll at any point, nor was there a plea from General Motors to get "the community" of car drivers involved. They just sorta picked it.

I mean, could it be that Detroit has been known as the "automobile capital of the world" (due to three of the largest automakers having their world headquarters and main manufacturing plants there) for the past 60 years have anything to do with it?

I wonder.

It's not like Detroit's an overly friendly town; it's pretty depressing to drive through, and a smidge dangerous. You think they'd pick someplace better, more... accessible to people. Like Topeka, Kansas. Or somewhere in the Pacific Ocean.

Maybe the moon. I bet that'd be a good place.

Lordfly,

There are all kinds of conventions that are held throughout the world, and many are not in the home city of the particular business or industry. For example, why is E3 held in Los Angeles? LA is not the capital of the video game industry. Why was BlizzCon held in Anaheim? Blizzard is based in Irvine. Why are the Republican and Democratic National Conventions not held in Washington DC? The arguments about all of this are getting silly.

San Francisco is certainly a logical choice for Linden involvement in the event, but again, NYC was also a great choice as OH MY GOD THE LINDENS CAN ALSO GET ON A FUCKING PLANE and this event is not just about LL, it is about the SL community itself.

The issue wasn't about SF specifically, it was about the attitude at the time it was originally announced and the perceived lack of inclusiveness, right or wrong. Hopefully communication will be better all around the next time, as it is a great event and a lot of effort is going into it.

All debate aside, i'm thrilled that I have the chance and the means to make it! yay!

Most of IVM will be represented there, as will the Courtyard, Inc. See ya'll there!

What is? Can you name a place that is defined as "video game capital of the world?" I'd probably have to guess Austin, Texas, but that's more First PErson Shooter -centric. In which case, indeed, cons devoted to FPSes are there. QuakeCon? Hmm.



So, again, where's the "logical" choice? Every place on the fucking planet is going to be inconvenient for SOMEBODY. Why not just drop it in SF and let it rest? It's the least amount of effort for everyone involved.

Again, the wonderful use of the airline transportation system can pretty much get you from any point A to any point B in under a day. The choice of place is completely, totally, irrevocably irrelevent if we factor OUT the Lindens; which would be pretty tardtastic, considering they run the joint.



Fair enough, although in my humble opinion I didn't perceive any "hey, we're all holy and shit, we're going to decide FOR YOU PEONS where to have OUR CON WHICH YOU CANT COME TO so NYAH" that some people are purporting to have felt.

In other words, this is much ado about nothing.

It won't matter, anyway, after I drink you all under the table, and/or get us kicked out of the SF pubs.

I read the orignal posts and found the argument devoid of reasoning then, as I find i there.

You don't want it to be in SF, because SF has been done. Well that your opinion, mine is different. I live in Cali and I rearely go to SF, and I like the city. You don't offer any more reason. You assert the world is not centered around san francisco, but in point of fact the worls is a sphere, and every point of the sphere can be the center-its a math thing.

You try and break it dow to some ridiculous demogrpahic argument about where the most SL users are, but reall that does not matter..and location is going to be conveintied for some, and SF is not a difficult city to fly to, unlike say, Wichita. Thus no location will be perfect for everyone in the community, and no sigle place is represented by teh entire community. The east coast excludes europeans, and is farther fro the japanese to travel, europe excludes the americans, and australia is hard for everyone to get to. Ultimately the demographics of the SL users are not esepcially relevant to a virtual world.

Apart from this your big beef seems to be about the way in which this was planned. My point is that member ship in the SL community is not dependent on an ability to plan where the SLCC is. As I said its a community covention because it is for the community, not because it is by the community.

Now if you have an argument other than those I have outlined above, either link to it or state it.

Check out Crissy Field, which is part of the GGNRA. It's a beautiful restored wetland, right on the Bay, with stunning views of the Golden Gate Bridge, the water, the hills. It's a truly inspiring location with some nice open areas for groups to gather. I often go there for Sunday morning walks with a friend -- it's a very special place, and not far from Fort Mason.

http://www.crissyfield.org/