Xstreet SL and OnRez to Join Linden Lab!

Now Lindens own Xstreet will european sl members have to pay v.a.t on goods purchased through xstreet - or whatever you call it .....

Well this sucks,

I actually removed my xstreet account some time ago, and now i can't create a new account on xstreet with my avatar name. Hopefully they will do something about that.

I'm guessing that i'm not the only one.

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Figured I would get my plug in also since that is where this thread has gone.

I'm not crazy about the decision, but I hope you do listen and respond to feedback. The biggest problem I see is the loss of hundreds of hours of work from merchants creating onrez listings, and the assumption by LL that we can just migrate over there, no problem. We are talking about hundreds of hours of effort by many merchants. The planning of this merger should have included a method of converting existing listings from onrez to xstreet. To not make this conversion process easy is a huge mistake.

Does this mean that Linden Labs will be taking over the customer support and responsibilities for SLX?
Most importantly the DMCA process.

*Advert removed*

Talk about trying to exploit, I wouldn't step foot in there now since this is your second post about it. Why should someone help you when this is hurting all of us. Please stay with the issues at hand and getting questions answered that are more priority at this moment and stop begging.

not as outrageous as the three day notice some of us got when lindens started applying v.a.t I dont remember much support from non europeans then even though some of us warned you it would set a precendent for rapid applications of increases to charges etc in the future....

Very good idea...but i am going to be too busy in the near future changing my own stock to even know where my head is...lol

GOD lets all hope so! I am sure they will. The staff at Street may not know it yet but I am sure they are out VERY soon. The only one that will make out is what's his name over there, the owner. The one who let his staff do whatever they wanted to do to who ever.

Those days are long gone I bet. The sun is out! Now maybe things can get back to normal on that site before all the staff got big heads.

PLEASE GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOO ! *raises hands and looks to the sky*

Amen Nikolaidis.... I know that I personally have lots of hours invested in doing all the posting of items to OnRez... and the reason I left SLX was that it took even longer. Now you are telling me that because you've decided to merge them that I have to do all the work... seems like you should be paying me instead of forcing me to redo hours worth of work for no compensation. Lindens this is wrong and you know it.... and I'm a small potatoes merchant compared to some people.......I cant imagine the hundreds upon hundreds of hours some of the other vendors have spent doing their listings only to have the carpet pulled out from under them right now. Boooo! You should figure out how to mesh the listings not make us start over.... *sighs*

I shop on the web, as the inworld rez times are frustrating. Also, some stores are difficult to navigate to the desired items (even at 100% rez). In RL I prefer to shop on the web for the exact same reason.

I like all the sorting options, new items, featured items and so forth. I'd really hate to see it go by way of portals (SLURL) to inworld stores only.

The one item for which I paid this fee got buried on page ten of the search results. I'm totally baffled by the Xstreet search and do not understand why people like it.

The number they list for DMCA issues goes to an answering service and no messages are responded to.

I don't know if any Linden reads this, but here goes: There's a bunch of products of the adult entertainment variety. Products that lots of people sell and lots of people use. I'm talking of products like prim genitals, XXX furniture and the like, nothing that might violate the TOS.

You (LL) have made it clear that you don't want to see such products to be shown or explicitly named in any public venue (classifieds, land descriptions, profiles and such). Not even in mature classifieds. So the only place where such wares could be effectively marketed, without censoring product photos and carefully tiptoeing around "bad" words, was SLExchange resp. XStreet SL.

What is going to happen now that you (LL) took over? Will there be any changes to the uncensored section of XStreet SL? Simply put: Can I still list a prim penis along with a product photo? Or will you enforce the same "Everything has to be PG now, even the adult section" rule that applies to the grid?

They tell us your Xstreet balance will eventually be absorbed by Second Life.

They aren't doing this for themselves, they are doing this for you.

Believe it.

I know I do.

Boy, doesn't this suck.

LL is like the government. The government shouldn't control access to commerce.

This is anti-competitive and will end up reducing choices. What if some 3rd party wants to make a site like XstreetSL? Now the playing field is unfair.

Only good thing is maybe they'll change the name back to SLX.

It's good for the founders of SLX, and good for LL. Just bad for the rest of us, and I wish LL would show better judgement in these matters.

I doubt it'll affect me personally much. I'm just against it in principle.

I totally agree, Tigress was a nightmare and there was just so much selective ToS enforcement. They loved to talk down to people they did not like.. reveal confidential info publicly and so on.. just really awful people in my honest opinion. There were and are a few good people there or was until they left due to all the bla bla bla. Apoth just blindly did and also believed and trusted whatever Tigress wanted and they did not care about the average user unless they were in the slx clique. They allowed their favs to post and do basically whatever they wanted while wrongly banning others..

That's a pity too considering that it is such a great service.

So yea.. I'm all for this acquisition and think it's about time!

I'm sure you will. 5% of, say, L$ 1500 might not seem much but it can add up to a nice amount when you consider the number of sales. What was it again? A virtual world owned and created by it's residents? Then LL took the 'owned' out of the equation and sent out an oukaze about the proper use of the trademark 'Second Life'. The company did still acknowledge the fact that SL is created by its residents. And rightly so, because without residents the world would be nothing but land, water, a sky and some Linden trees. Now LL takes a step forward and gets a chunk of the few bucks residents make by selling their creations.

A solid business plan, really.


Promises, promises.

Good question, since there's the option to pay in US$ via paypal. I'd like to know that too.

Buying Onrez and closing it has me wondering if LL intends to sabotage any attempt to create a new shopping site. Why would they buy it and close it? If they don't want competition I hope they'll come right out and simply forbid it. I'd hate to be the one that expends any great effort developing a site only to have LL sabotage it.

That would be me.

Gack, I do NOT want my XStreetSL balance to go into my LL balance!

NO NO NO. I have them separate for specific reasons. (For example, a big mistake with a scripted object that gives money won't wipe me out. I trust XStreet more than I trust myself in this particular matter.)

Anyone looking to open up a competitive service? Sign me up.

Maybe if I just keep calling, someone will find the testicular fortitude to reply...

YO, LAB!

YOU HAVE PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS LEFT RIGHT AND CENTRE HERE! NOT ONE RESPONSE?

Are you aware that the Internet is accessible in almost every country in the world? This means that you can have 2 (or more) people working for the same organisation in different time zones! If you have a product or service that caters for customers or users across different time zones, you may wish to consider having people around to field these questions and points as they come in, rather than waiting for half the world to go to bed, sneak on, answer the queries with a few vague responses, then lock the thread before anyone is given the right to reply.

I would draw your attention to the following post, by a Linden, that I consider a binding contract. Don't make me hunt you down and bite your kneecaps.

/352/21/300019/4.html#post2271609/352/21/300019/4.html#post2271609

It would appear that the overwhelming majority of people posting here would very much like you to keep XStreetSL and OnRez as two seperate entities, certainly for the time being. I am sure that the price of a few premium accounts would cover hosting and domain name fees. I would respectfully ask that you agree to consider that option, and I would also very much like for you to acknowledge this post.

Regards!

Only the successful ones

Or, as LL put it in the FAQs: