Xstreet SL and OnRez to Join Linden Lab!

In real estate, they say that the three most important factors are location, location and location. In any business dealing directly with the public, the three factors are perception, perception and perception. (And if you think about it, in real estate, location has everything to do with perception.)

I am generally supportive of LL; I love SL and I understand many of the challenges LL faces in making it work, and respect their efforts. I know a number of Lindens, and they're great people. I generally agree with what they choose to focus their time and efforts on. But they are historically and chronically bad at gauging perception of their moves.

I think this is a bad move at a very bad time. Coming on the tail of weeks of general instability and a week of major problems, people are inclined perceive it as fiddling while Rome burns. All the other aspects of this move that people have discussed here -- monopolistic aspirations, Big Brother clenching down -- are their perceptions, and they are bad.

This may well turn out to be a really great thing. But LL has got to learn to handle these things more smoothly! For crying out loud, people, learn to handle PR! If LL had PR staff half as skilled as their techies, the SL community would be jumping up and down in excitement at this move.

I don't think there's ever been a company which has made so many moves so badly perceived by its clientele, and survived. It really speaks to the essential vision of SL.

And shortly after that, a land-less environment? My "commission" to Linden Labs is basically 100% - I earn enough to pay my tier and don't worry about it, and most of my sales aren't in XStreet. They'd rather make a few percent on fewer sales?

this is how I feel about it....

with my sl experience, I would say that its turning to become a major copyright infrigement problem at the moment in the sl world...

when a real life compagny like myself is comming for marketing, it seams that they will do anything to not support them...

i have sent many reports about this issue, I never got any lindens to contact me or to write back to me....

in the futur if they want real compagnys to come in secondlife they will have to make some efforts on this point.... communication

because i dont think what happened to me is very funny... sure i do not need xstreet to sell my guitars inworld, i sell plenty....

but its a question of being fair and to have respect and what happened here is clearly not...

sorry for my bad english

See, there is always an ulterior motive from what companies tell when they make an acquisition like this. XStreet changed it's name to XStreet SL to begin with because they were going to expand beyond SL, by buying it, Linden is preventing that from happening, and by buying OnRez and shutting it down that is preventing the competition. I am not blind to this being anti-competitive, and don't tell me it's not. Anytime that happens, it's bad for us all period. One company controlling everything is always bad.

Like others have said, it is better to fix what you have first, rather than go out and do something like this, the constant problems are just unacceptable, I would have quit again already but some avatars will hunt me down.

well i say good luck with that, i wonder how many OnRez users wont switch because of that pathetic commission, the reason MOST people used OnRez for the fact it didnt have commission, so they kept all there hard earned Lindens for the time they spent making and texturing all that they goods... this commission idea sucks and should be removed. USE the best of both sites, not everything from Xstreet because they now WORK for you

I don't give a hoot, two hoots, or all the Hoots in the land - it's 1.30pm my time, there are Lindens based in this country, people have been banging on about this for at least 5 hours, and not a single acknowledgement from ANYONE. Why are all of these decisions being left for some tool in California to deal with? Why can Linden Lab not understand the concept of networking?

one good point about onrez....

they dont act as if they are the king of the univers towards residents... onrez seams to be very friendly...

I have done the same over the last few days. I sell on both sites and was beta testing the 8 pic vendor for on-rez. I had been looking forward to see what XStreet vendor system was going to be like, since I had already spent so much $$$ uploading images,

So is anyone at LL going to reimburse us for all the $$$ to upload into on-rez?? Yeah right, they don't care about small business, they only want to take more of our $$$L.

In case you didnt notice
LL has clients all over the WORLD.
THere should be lindens in England too, or in Australia, those people need support too and have questions too ^^

Now maybe we can blame the owners of SLX and OnRez too.
IF they had the guts, they would have told Linden Lab to fuck off and dont ever try to bribe SLX or OnRez out again...

But I guess money rules ^^

This is like the US government buying Microsoft, proclaiming Windows to be America's "official" OS, then taxing us for purchasing the product.

I pay you for premium membership, I pay you for tier ... now you want the fees I pay to sell products via the web too? And, I think I can safely infer that you intend to *increase* those fees, since you seem to consider XStreet a "free service" and that we are getting "well more value to the merchants than they pay back in fees".

I'm no attorney, but this stinks of anti-trust to me.

I sure hope that this doesn't mean that doing a search in xStreet is going to revert to the horrible way searches are done in SL. The main reason I love xStreet is that you can actually do a search and find what you are looking for. Not so in SL searches...they suck...you can never find anything.

I should imagine they are all cowering in a corner reading the vitriol coming at them....waiting for a corporate bullshitter to wake up

Good.

What was her name again?

I was a member of SLExchange (yes, that's the REAL name for it, XStreet is a name forced by Lindens) for years and today I'm saying goodbye. Not to SLX - but to Lindens and their monopolistic Microsoft-like approach.

"In an effort to kill SL we decided to remove all competition within OUR world for which YOU pay. Thank you and keep paying us for nothing"

seems i missunderstood something, but you terminate Onrez !!

I personally hate Xstreet, the layout, the search..bah.

And my question, again : What will happen with the Vendor system? Later maybe? You must be kidding...you give us onrez merchants three weeks to change everything? What are you thinking about, i have an RL !
And when you only give us only 3 weeks,make sure the grid is stabil..at the moment...*logins disabled*....to me!!

No Logins, no comments here, but messing up the Onrez design...i´m soo pissed now.

I knew this would happen sooner or later. And I have to say, I couldn't be happier at the announcement. I'm hoping that it's sooner rather then later.

Yes and they do have representatives globally. However, not all are able to respond to the specific questions.

The full name was XStreet SL and they claim they changed it because they had always planned for more than just Second Life. Now Linden is preventing that, that's a thing we call greed.

And they're gonna rip down and delete all the SLX forums, so so long to years worth of advice from there!

btw the xstreet rating is unfair....


1) in order for the stars to appear your item must be rated at least 3 times

also there are some competitors out there (i have experienced that) who enjoy logging in in an other name and who badly rate the products....

so i think that the rating system must go or a system letting the creator choose to have his items rated or not....

You do not know if that is the case or not. I doubt that is the case.

Why would LL buy and then close Onrez? What did LL get from that deal?

Am I the only person that thinks this seems like a backwards step?
I thought the point was to get the rest of the world off their boring browser based 2d web experience into the immersive world of second life.
How come you are sending us all back to the browsers?
You could maybe buy a stake in Skype. Then we could lose voice from inworld too.

Xstreet announced at some point that they were a company to penetrate all the new virtual worlds. Has LL just squashed valuble future resources for those other worlds and a chance for more integration of Web 3D?
I'm fearful of LL trying to get too much inhouse rather than concentrate on running"your world" infrastructure for the residents.