Xstreet SL and OnRez to Join Linden Lab!

I also think the rating is unfair. It is an easily abused system.

i agree Chaff!

They'd do better just transferring the forums here over to there, at least the SLX ones work.

We run two shops with Lucky Chairs, right next to these are a set of On rez vendors, the lucky chair groups i belong to have upwards of 10000 members all of whom can easily be linked to On rez via the vendors, does LL really want to throw away this potential custom ??

This whole buy out sucks.

It is a power control move by LL. I am sure we will see the real reason within the next 6-8 months.

Time for someone else to make a 3rd party market website and keep it out of LL's hands.

The xstreet forums were badly abused and the staff selectively enforced their ToS.. in otherwords, no thanks. I prefer Linden Lab any day of the week. At least Linden Lab is fair and unbiased.

Maybe if I just keep calling, someone will find the testicular fortitude to reply...

YO, LAB!

YOU HAVE PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS LEFT RIGHT AND CENTRE HERE! NOT ONE RESPONSE?

Are you aware that the Internet is accessible in almost every country in the world? This means that you can have 2 (or more) people working for the same organisation in different time zones! If you have a product or service that caters for customers or users across different time zones, you may wish to consider having people around to field these questions and points as they come in, rather than waiting for half the world to go to bed, sneak on, answer the queries with a few vague responses, then lock the thread before anyone is given the right to reply.

I would draw your attention to the following post, by a Linden, that I consider a binding contract. Don't make me hunt you down and bite your kneecaps.

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It would appear that the overwhelming majority of people posting here would very much like you to keep XStreetSL and OnRez as two seperate entities, certainly for the time being. I am sure that the price of a few premium accounts would cover hosting and domain name fees. I would respectfully ask that you agree to consider that option, and I would also very much like for you to acknowledge this post.

Regards!

In addition to the custom vendor feature that has already been requested multiple times, there are a couple of features from OnRez that I would love to see added to XStreet:

- all reviews are signed, including simple star ratings, and all ratings are added to the star rating average. Currently there is no way for vendors on XStreet to judge if a low rating is due to an upset customer or someone greifing the ratings unless the customer adds a written review (which the system doesn't encourage since written reviews aren't added to the star average unless you make a simple star rating vote first, then add your review). Similarly, customers can't tell the source of ratings. Signed ratings would give them more context.

- the item management system on OnRez is vastly superior to the one on XStreet, and I would love to see a full port.

Not alowed you mean. It has to be an official BS response after all.

I think it means that people living in the same house as you aren't allowed to rate your items.

It would be nice to see them glean the best from the two, OnRez and Xstreet. OnRez was superior but I did not like how complicated it was to set up items for sale. Xstreet setup was much less complicated.

Is this the future of xtreet?

https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=1086226

I hope its not..XD

What SL currently did is messed up both web sites (im talking about layout itself only) by putting their "yeah we acquired them" banners.
If you can say how day will be by morning, then i better get my umbrella with me.
I know that this may sound insignificant comparing to service and all, but website that looks broken only implies that content is broken as well.
(Which actually is, as i have withdrawn my lindens from OnRez as i already have Slex acc and that money never got through, and waiting a bit more before issue ticket to LL)
So this is "lets mark our territory firs, and later (we have to fix SL to work properly, we are postponing 1.25 server code for few months now) we COULD work on slex and onrez".
That aint gonna work. Of course if somebody in LL actually care about this thread at all.

Anywey, I loose my onrez vendors in world. I will miss them very much.
Please make a new ones as soon as possible.

I noticed that the homepage has only 6 featured items now instead of 9, plus the 3 land items.. will you please restore the original 9 because now the rotate is even longer. Thanks.

So all the companies on SL who sell vendors, are going yippee, we are about to make lots of money cause all those poor suckers who have On Rez vendors are now screwed and have to buy a vendor system from us. They are all saying TY to LL.

While the small business user is saying - great we now lose the $$$ we put into on-rez, and now we have a very short period of time to resetup our shops, and having to buy a vendor and waste that $$$ as well, till LL decides they are going to start a vendor system.

We are getting screwed right and left, this is really fair!

Good to see that LL put a junior tech onto changing the 2 websites overnight and screwed that up to. Guess we can all look forward to him being head of the technical change over then.

This is NOT what I wanted to wake up to this morning. SOB

Oh great, a monopoly. Well thank you LL. I use ONLY Onrez because I sincerely can't stand anything about SLX. Well, goodbye web sales 'n buys then. NO WAY I am moving my stuff to SLX, and buying anything there is a PITA too. The only reason I have an account there is that I sometimes use it for money. Oh, and they charge commission, too-I don't sell much anyway, and the last thing I need is commission on that.

I preferred OnRez over Xchangestreet or whatever. Yes there were some things with it I would have changed, but over all I enjoyed using it more. I recommended it to friends who hated doing in world shopping thanks to idiots wearing scripted attachments everywhere they possibly could and causing all sorts of issues.

I have RSS feeds for the blog and grid status and have been appalled by the growing number of problems I see daily. Why should we expect that this new "merger" (read: monopoly) will be any different in terms of off world shopping quality? All I see is things going swiftly downhill.

Fortunately I have an inventory with enough things that I don't need to do much shopping anymore, so I'll just transfer my money back into my in world account and let Linden Labs shoot itself in the foot with yet another failed project.

Way to (further) alienate your users LL.

I think I'll go join the legions of WoW zombies.


BTW, OnRez/Electric Sheep, I am THOROUGHLY disappointed in this move. Yes, you're a business, and yes it's natural that you want to turn a profit, but you have sold away the one thing that made your service worthwhile: You weren't part of Linden Labs.

Thanks for the big "Go F.ck Yourself" to those of us who enjoyed and utilized your service.

Sole market ownership, otherwise called MONOPOLY.

about the vendors... I prefer to simply use the hippo vendors... easy to set up and i also place an affiliate system into my vendors....

onrez vendors are static and can not be set to affiliate which would be pretty cool....

I feel that the new service must work as closely to the OnRez model as possible. Setting up the dropboxes on the web was just so much easier then using the XStreet model. Additionally, the new service should remain free, and charge minimal fees for featured listings. It's my personal preference to use OnRez for listing items specifically because it is more user friendly- both for setting up and for the fees.


The strength os XStreet is that it has more catagory listings and more ways to find things, and it was easy to buy Linden Dollars using XStreet. I also liked how the XStreet template for listing items cold be saved, and changed could be made for specific items. However, it was a bear to set up; ONRez offered an easier method of setting up items.


I was not very happy with Xstreet at all. The service charges ridiculous fees for featuring items. With so much competition in that market place, it can be almost impossible to earn out your featured listing cost. The trap here is, you HAVE TO have your items featured or they don't get seen because there is so many items listed.
And then, users have to pay a commission for each item sold, whether it is featured or not. I'm not willing to pay twice - once for a featured listing and once for commission.

Oh in fact, I'm not willing to pay a high fee to have featured listings. And I definitly am not willing to pay a commission on my items. They are MY items, for MY selling.
I already know I will discontinue selling on the web in the XStreet model of web selling is kept.

And that's my point, OpenLife is adding currency, there could have been XStreet OL.

If I am wrong, I am wrong, either way this is bad, VERY bad.

I would like to have at SLX-XStreetSL-OnRez-LLStreetRez:

- the onrez tag system

- the onrez item management

- the onrez storefront

- And I hope, something will be done against keyword spam. Some Biab/Freebie Sellers use every imaginable keyword per item. I dont want to get hairs, skins, clothes, pets.... when I search for pumps. If every merchant would do that, the whole product range of the market would show up. This makes every search completely senseless.

I really look the way ONREZ is set up and I think its much nicer than XLstreet. I am hoping that you can keep the look of the website. I think it will be much easier to have to load items to one website instead of two. I also think Linden can drive more traffic to this website so I am looking forward to it. Thanks!