Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Geographical Separation of Adult Content

this sounds like a concentration camp...is it for SL perverts

I agree, this is the way to to. It certainly works for porn sites, and keeps them legal. And as HORRBILE as SL is, I do not think it qualifies in any way as porn. It may be as bad as Fox Tv though.
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Maybe because some of us with 3 year old accounts *will* fight for a group that is being treated unfairly. Whether we are part of that group or not.

I'm expecting 'them" to take me in a white padded van myself

almost to 1000! and no word on if it will cost you to move!

Well if some people are hysterically threatening to leave (which is like threating to commit sucide because you don't like the government that got voted in) then they can hardly do so with their main account, so why not get as many alts/bots as they got to post idle threats, no one will remember them in 12 months time when they proclaim they are leaving again at the next major evolution step

I've read thru the majority of these pages and I think i only read a few that touched on what I personally and alot of others are wondering if this is really going to happen we have something for you all to think about.

Going to push everybody into a new piece of landmass ( they state over and over this is just for mainland ) ( not for private island people ) okay so you get everybody in this one nice area correct now mark my words so you can come back and read this in 6 months or extended period of time.

Look at how many open space sims they lost in the current price increase ( 100,00's of sims ) are you understanding what i'm getting at yet think about it people.

They are going to push all the " adult " people on mainland into one area and then say ahh well we are going to close down this area you are all going to have to get private islands ( i have a idea lets use all these abaonded openspace sims we will re-label a new class called Mature Homestead ( owe me money use that idea lol ) and everybody will have to move to them

Mark my words that has been mentioned in a meeting and somebody said well lets no say that up front but yeah good idea we can boost up the sales of all these boxes that we have sitting empty but how can we do it with our major revolt.

I know lets slow move them to one area and then close that area saying okay we have these islands and this is what your going to have to use. ( IE: that is why private islands are not effected from the start )

It's all about money people all about money ... think about this .. Linden Labs for the longest time had alot of boxes at a NOC - ( Huge Server Warehouse ) at this place you could rent a box to run second life for XX USD a month with so much bandwith yada yada yada This place is called The Planet you can look it i up it's in Texas they host alot of big companys GE , HP , Google etc okay anyway so say LL gets mass discount 1 box ( server lets see can run 4 - sims or ( open space is 4 = 1 so 4 x 4 = 16 open space per server ) in theory never truely tell you ( Link to the website https:// www.theplanet.com/servers/ ) okay anyway so lets say you goto get a server from LL 1000 USD up front and 300 USD a month in Tier ( goto buy any box here what is setup cost ) ( https://www.theplanet.com/servers/configure.aspx?id=3012&series=16 ) $25 USD okay so that is $975 dollars startup that LL gets to keep right off the bat care you starting to understand now lets setup open space sims you can see it goes up 10X from there

Okay lets play devils advocate ( no pun intended on my name ) there is alot of cost to keep LL running beyond server rental yada yada

Got off on a rant there any way back to what i was saying think about it people that is what this is all about is finding a way to fill back up all those boxes that are sitting there save this post and call me crazy or whatever but when it happens remember this post

END OF RANT

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The departments concerned probably don't work weekends. Do you expect a price per prim or per metre? I don't see anything saying much land on the new unnamed continent will auction for either, or rental rates by the Landbarons owning land there.
It's probably tax deductable anyway, we all declare our incomes don't we?

Your assumption that private islands are not affected is false. If there is any adult content on a private island then the whole island (including PG business and residential occupiers of that island) will have to be redesignated adult and will, to all intents and purposes, be indistinguishable from and subject to the same access restrictions as the new adult continent.

I keep seeing this mentioned but don't quite understand why it is being said. Currently on one of my islands I have a Strokerz Toyz vendor and I've ticked that parcel as "mature content" the island is mature anyway but the "Mature Content" flag is at parcel level, why wouldn't the "Adult content" flag be at parcel level?

It's being said because that's exactly what LL have told us will happen. NPIOF accounts will be blocked from accessing the entire sim or seeing any of it in search.

I could be wrong, but I think the Mature content tickbox is only for search purposes where the Adult checkbox will be an access flag.
And I don't see the point in someone making half an island PG and the other half Adult as it defeats the whole advantage of having an Adult island people can't weasel into.
To me perhaps they need to make 4 access controlled land zones

Teen only

PG- Accessible by both adults and kids for family interaction, scenic builds etc.

Mature- no kids allowed, but no tentecle sex pony rape clubs or product sellers either

And "Near anything goes"

If they supply these choices residents will vote with their feet and the appropriate continents will expand accordingly.

You haven't been paying attention, Nina. It's been done several times already.

It's one vendor in a store mostly of clothes. Upstairs I have that vendor, some skins and an animations vendor. There's no way I'm turing my whole island adult for a 15 prim vendor, that would be completely unfair to the other commerical renters on my sim. Maybe this is LL's plan, someone else suggested eleswhere this would be the case. The vendor will have to go, there would be no point in me even buying a plot on the new continent for that sort of vendor.



I'm pretty much in favour of this proposal but I think LL have got their thinking arse about face, the first thing they should be doing is moving PG and Mature to different continents. It's not a lot of fun when you have a PG parcel next to a mature sim, it can easily make the PG status on your parcel pretty damn meanigless.

Cheers, that's just plain silly. There really isn't much choice being offered on this issue at all then.

Little choice, Kieran! In your case, as LL wants, the adult vendor must go as that fits your business model. In other cases, and ironically, the PG businesses and residential occupiers may have to go owing to the access issues and even though they have been quite happy and content in the company of their adult neighbours.

That's what it originally sounded like they were doing... the original FAQ described M in terms that read a lot like PG, and PG like some kind of "business casual" professional environment... so that most "M" parcels would end up having to move to "A", and a good many "PG" parcels would have to move to "M".

And nobody's fussing about the sex, now are they? They are complaining about being thrown off their land and marched at Banpoint into the ghetto. It is wrong whether the reason is public pose balls by ones own pool on ones own parcel, or M waking up in a poor mood and deciding to ban the color Pink. Makes no difference the reason - your property is being forcefully taken without due process.

It's because of the Lindens' incompetence in handling the mainland that I live on an island.

good morning fellow outraged residents, good morning as well Lindens and residents who agree with this idea...

another day, another repeat...

if you're going to make me (and my alt) move out product, where is the signup sheet to get adult land? Please give me a link or an address to send my signup info to.

Thanks, and everybody on either side please have a nice day.

This thread assumes two things:

1. This is going to happen, and its only a question of how and when.
2. There will be PG, Mature and Adult sims/continents in some form.

Has Linden Labs considered letting this evolve on it's own? If they made an adult area, and offered meter-for-meter land swaps, you would have a lot people going there looking for an upgrade ... people with lesser land, looking for better land. Then the people that currently had better land, would rush in before all the good land was taken.

The Lab should do the same with a PG area ... offer meter-for-meter land swaps, with the same dynamic at play.

At that point, it would only be a question of policing a smaller sub set, but my guess would be that it would be very small, because nobody would want to be the adult theme that gets thrown off their land after all the good land in the adult area is taken.

In post #968, Ewan Mureaux mentioned land cutters and extortionists. It might have seemed off topic, but it really isn't. If Linden Labs is going to do this, and it's pretty obvious they will, they had better get a handle on land cutters and extortionists. They will also need a method to ensure that land in adult areas is offered to actual adult interests FIRST, less the land barons, who actually don't have an adult interest, will snap up all the good land and extort it later to those "forced" to move ... or anyone wanting to open an adult interest in the future.

Dear Lindens,

"SL is an 18+ service."

(Linden Lab Quote)

Why the hell do you treat adults like kids who can be pushed around for being "nasty"? If SL is 18+ then the content is 18+ and as long as this content does not violate any law there is not the slightest reason for any "moving". Okay, i am fine with the AVS, it was overdue. But if there is an AVS, and if SL is 18+, i see absolutely NO reason for this "adult" continenet, because every user WILL be ADULT, anyway.

I consider all of this being balant nonsense. If you want to improve the experience, care more about the governance of mainland, get rid of all the ugly pink ultramegaprims and ultratemprezzers littering any other sim, improve region handshakes, connectivity and and and and....

There is so much to be done. Why don´t you just do your job and let the 18+ inhabitants of SL do theirs?

As long as this isn't the beginning of a system designed to merge SL teen with the "standard" SL, I don't see the harm in this for the majority of residents. Frankly, I think there should be age verification required to even be in SL. As far as a few adult businesses taking a financial hit, well, you had to know that you were pursuing revenues in a highly volatile market, and these are the inherent risks.

Please reserve me a 1/4 sim of beach front property. As my partner and I own a photography studio. We do have request of customers wanting nude shots of them and their lovers.
Thanks,
Kasen

They bought XstreetSL to make it so only age-verifieds can see mature items.
They are now trying -- in a backward half a**ed sorta way -- to hide mature stuff inworld.
The heads of LL have repeatedly said they will combine the grids.
All the Adult sims, you'll have to be age verified to enter; unnecessary for +18 game.

If this isn't the teens coming in, I don't know what else it can be. And listening to the lindens this long I have learned one thing - don't pay attention to the hand they are drawing your attention to. They use misdirection and verbal obsfucation to keep you focused on their left hand and ignore their right. No other company I can think of would use Newspeak to talk about improving choices while denying a number of people ANY choice about whether they want to abandon their current builds or not.

We suggested several times over the last year or so that they move all the adfarmers and extortionists to their own "continent", but LL didn't go for it. :-/