RC Questions

Has anyone found any words that are filtered in PG search but not mature, or is mature just a behaviour issue and PG search worthy to all intents and purposes?

I just want to say, after reading some of the forum posts surrounding the SLB6, I'm pretty saddened. Why does it feel like anyone who does not support the Adult Content Changes is being called trash, dirty, and that they belong in the sewer? Why is the thinking that we are now all representatives of porn? I'm not. I'm just a normal person who enjoyed Second Life very much for many years, including some sexual aspects of it. Isn't that normal? Isn't that Adult? I know I'm probably taking this way too personal, but it just seems that people are suggesting anyone opposed to the AC changes is now some how slutty, smutty, and just down right trash. That is the worst part, the name calling from both sides is just out of hand at this point. I'm not a deviant because I enjoy being an adult and doing adult things, any more than someone else is a prude because they enjoy a more conservative lifestyle.

I feel so caught up in all of this because I find myself to be in the middle. I want to be able to continue to experience ALL aspects of Second Life from the more PG to the more Adult. In my opinion, these AC changes will not accomplish that. These proposed changes have already accomplished a huge rift in the community that I can see. If you are for the changes you are automatically labeled a prude... If you against, you are labeled trash. It is sad to see this massive rift in the community and the changes haven't even gone into effect yet. I do wonder what it will be like after people can clearly apply these labels upon your forehead for all to see, because that is all I can see will be the outcome of these changes.

Just my opinion and thoughts on the matter.

Obviously ... her post was two pages after that was pretty clearly pointed out. ;-)

Mr. M needs a new position in the company...the fukkin stock room

Do i need to submit some kind of support ticket?

Hans

Thanks and I have added a comment as well

Yes, LL plans to establish special tickets for that (not established so far)



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There is no clear answer from Blondin and others so far, but as far I know, any open-air adult items or activities will be rated as adult and can move too, or has to move too then.

Even this will be case by case checked by some Lindens. Jack Linden promised a staff of 10 Linden-employees for that... - only 10....

So the process will be: if you feel that your items or activities are smutty enough, you fill this special ticket then and a Linden drops in to check your stuff. If this Linden thinks too that you are smutty enough, you can swap the land then and moving to Ursula.

Sadly I have to agree with you, it is these people both sides of the coin, with name calling of the opposite side that need to grow up and act like Adults. Reminds me sometimes of junior school kids in the playground Everyone in this issue has the right to be heard, for or against without the need to resort to name calling or labels.

Just my opinion though

Thanks for the very full answer. I will just watch out for the new type of ticket then. This thread seems so well hidden now in the blog i wonder whether there is a large proportion of the user base has no idea this is about to happen. Perhaps they are hoping most people won't bother to submit a ticket: because if lots of people did it's very hard to see how they would get round everyone's house to assess them for how 'smutty' they are.

Also i am really nervous that it will turn out i am not smutty enough. And frankly the idea of being really smutty for a couple of months in order to get moved i find really repugnant.

They should just let anyone who wants have a free move without bothering to check how smutty they are

Hans

PS and i suppose check the people they really do think are smutty really did move

That's not saying much.

What makes Google's search is a hideous amount of effort from people constantly tweaking and weighting. A Google Search Appliance may have the necessary code functions to perform similarly, but only if the required effort is put into it.

As an analogy, they may have God's Own Spreadsheet Appliance, but if all they are using it for is a 4-banger calculator, it's not going to be very spectacular in its operation.

I agree it would be dumb of them. It would happen though if LL offered free swaps, and it would be in no ones intrest.


That's exactly how I thought. It's like subscribing to pay TV then getting some channels removed because you didn't watch them. However, when I'm honest with myself I'm really not going to be hosting public adult activities on my home parcel (I rent out another parcel which is a another story). For me, if I changed my mind I'd be happy to know that I can sell my M land and replace it with A land without incurring unreasonable cost.




LL do not make zoned continents... until now. This is a special case, they can change the rules, it doesn't even need to be permanent. It's only a suggestion for a solution though. It seems unlikely that LL would ever offer free land swaps for all, no questions asked. However, I'm sure that there would be general agreement that it should be easy for residents to get themselves into the correct rating. Discussions should work to solving that problem.



I don't know this is true, although it is becoming a reasonable assumption given LLs silence on the issue. I wish they would engage a little more.

Yes, on the other hand it's easy to block keywords, it doesn't take much programming so there's hardly any effort wasted if it doesn't work.

Most of the changes in this RC have nothing to do with Adult Content, and most of them should probably have been deferred. They should have done a 1.22.12 release based on the 1.22 code base if they needed to get their nanny client out quickly, instead of advancing the regular release cycle to force it out on schedule.

You're missing the point I was making, which is that they made minimal changes *in the client* for the Adult Content stuff.

The lost preferences and many other problems in the client are due to unrelated changes, that they seem to be forcing out early so they can meet this implementation deadline.

The problem is that *everyone* who has land is getting a downgrade under this plan. Even the free swap winners. Everyone's land will be more restricted. I've concluded that is the main issue here.

Land owners have to chose between:

* Having two locations to cover their range of activities = higher cost

* Choosing adult land, and losing some visitors who cant get there

* Staying on mature land and restricting their activities

Thats a lose, lose, lose proposition

I also think we are kinda worn out talking about this, I'm trying to collect the good ideas in one place, but we are repeating ourselves a lot.

Have not tested that, partly cause we have been told the list is changing.

At the other end, some words are filtered even at the adult level (pedophile for example), so we know they have multiple filter levels in principle.

It just occurred to me that either this RC is gonna become a required SL Viewer update, or if it's not, they're gonna have even more complaints and trouble tickets than one may have previously imagined, as people try to figure out what's keeping their teleport or search from working as expected... This may be spectacular

I'd like to hear what people think about this alternate plan:

* Upgrade ALL mainland regions one rating level (PG to Mature, Mature to Adult)

* Create Ursula as a PG only continent

True =)
Mr Jack Linden should strike that word judgment from the GTeam vocab. Is not a good word in this field. Some people dont use their common sense when asked to use their judgment.They go a bit power crazy sometimes and also take chit personally.

A job on GTeam is quite simple really. Enforce the ToS, favour no one, use your common sense, stay calm and be professional and if you not sure what to do then ask your supervisor. And if you cant do all of these then youre sacked.

This is too easy and too intelligent. If not to say: too brilliant. I vote for it!

But we can imagine the chorus of the Linden-singers: "lalalala, this doesn't meet the criterias of our prooohohohohooopro - lalalala - gram, lalalala"

Yes.

I'm a little confused about this. To my recollection, at some point they'd said that there was to be a transition interval during which time the old viewers would work as expected. But I'm not aware of any way to get to Adult land without a 1.23 viewer and appropriate preference settings--and that's now, before the policy is even in force.

Does anybody remember what they said about how this was *supposed* to work? Did they ever announce that they'd changed the plan to neuter older viewers right away?

Straightforward common sense, it's the way to go - I'm guessing you won't even get an answer to the question other than 'we don't want to do that' or something equally uninformative - I hope I'm wrong.

^L^

What forum posts regarding SL6B? Do you mean the blog comments that turned into a fight between 2 people on the extreme far ends of the issue?


I have not seen any other SL6B discussions. I would love to know where they are.

that is a fantatic pitchfork

Blondin is aware he's going to have another full house this week... we now have placards, pitchforks and torches (although that torch does need a little working on). Should be a nice colourful turnout.

After he bolts again, don't run off and I'll take a group photo.. We might as well have a little momento of the event

And maybe I'll wear a sound cube of the song Exodus and play it when he arrives

There aren't enough regions in Ursula to accomodate the current mainland PG regions that would be displaced.

Presumably there are some people living in Mature regions that would prefer not to be upgraded to adult.