RC Questions

Can you seriously give any reason someone who has no desire to see anything adult of any nature should be bombarded with ads for cocks and whatever else every time they search anything at all? Can you really say that people have no right to a sex free SL?

I have to take umbrage to that.

There is nothing misguided about this.

Can you seriously give any reason children should be able to see adult content?

Can you seriously give any reason someone who has no desire to see anything adult of any nature should be bombarded with ads for cocks and whatever else every time they search anything at all?

Can you really say that people have no right to a sex free SL?

People seem to have lost perspective. Second Life isn't an alternate universe. It's a service run on computers in the Real World. Real World Rules, Real World Values, Real World Laws, all apply to Linden Lab.

They can't just declare themselves their own country and ignore the fact that they could easily get their ass sued off for some of the stuff going on in here. The Supreme Court just upheld that the FCC has the right to fine TV stations huge fines for even *one* small slip of profanitiy on any show, at any time.

LL may be trying to make a better world, but that world certainly doesn't exist outside where LL's offices are. And LL has to protect LL, Foremost, and First. Their plan is incredibly minor in comparison to the alternative, which is to IMVU Secondlife by removing everything. I frankly think people are damn ungrateful for what they are doing.

And I thought this thread was about the RC client, not about rehashing all this again.

Fine. Maybe LL can give us somewhere else official to talk about it. There are still many unanswered questions..

Or is your point that we should just shut up and take this?

/me searches around a little online and finds many places, with very little work, where you can get US$20 pre-paid Visa cards. It's been.. er.. a few years since I was a teen but I don't think US$20 would be too hard for a kid to come up with nowdays.

Again, total failure of this project to meet the goal. Or do you have something else that makes you think this stuff is going to help keep kids out? Keep in mind that they're already lying to get onto the adult grid.

This whole issue to me is not so much about what I do at my land now, but what I could do with it. And that, LL, bothers me most. You take away my freedom of using the land as I wish (which I could, and can, do under the old rules).

Indeed. You should be given the same right to a free transfer to the Adult continent as anyone.

I have to take umbrage to that. There is nothing misguided about this. Can you seriously give any reason children should be able to see adult content? Can you seriously give any reason someone who has no desire to see anything adult of any nature should be bombarded with ads for cocks and whatever else every time they search anything at all? Can you really say that people have no right to a sex free SL?

And I thought this thread was about the RC client, not about rehashing all this again.

I have read much of the information presented and it seems to me that you have given a small percentage of residents, those who are most vocal, a more significant impact in how SL is structured then what is the wishes of what appears to be an over whelming majority. You keep referring to a this group as being substantial but you have not so far as I can find defined just what percentage of the SL residents in total are represented by this vocal group? So I would like to know, just how many residents have requested this new restrictive structure? It seems to me that you are doing what so many before you have done, caved to the "Moral Majority" (aka the vocal minority). These people have totally fucked up the real world, and SL was the last safe refuge from them and now you have given it over to them. I am severely disappointed.

One of the things that has always bothered me about this small group of people is how they feel privileged to be able to dictate to me just what is and is not acceptable. I work in the media industry, I run several cable television channels and a web site. I always find myself telling people that God invented the remote control so they can change the channel. If they don't like something, they have the choice change the channel to avoid the undesired content. But for some reason this is not good enough, they would instead impose their standards on me and violate my 1st Amendment rights under the guise of "morality" and "community standards". Same thing with the Internet. Rather then chose not to go to adult content sites, they make sure they become very familiar with it's content so they can better oppose it's very existence. That is pure and simple bullshit!

Do you honestly believe they will stop with just moving all "Adult" content to a special area? You gave an inch, they broke you, they will not stop. I know, I've fought this battle before. Once you show any sign of movement, it's like blood in the water. I'll be watching for the feeding frenzy and when that happens, you can kiss SL goodbye. It will not even be yours to control anymore and you will at long last decide it just isn't worth it anymore and shut it down. Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt to prove it.

I would very much like to know just how many that actually have requested this change. Figures please, how many?

Just because LL wants to change the topic does not mean that we *as customers* have to go along with it.

Darien, you had your very public moment of angst in the old thread a while ago. Just because you're sorted now and aren't affected by the requirement to move since all you have to do is reclassify, doesn't mean everyone else is happy by the way LL have dealt with their customers regarding this change ****NOR**** that what they are offering as the sweetener to us to make it happen is acceptable.

Until we have some decent answers and can be satisfied that we are not going to be unduly inconvenienced, I don't care what LL want to talk about, I want to talk about those issues.

tough huh?

SVC-3039 Filters on Search, "Would be nice to be able to filter searches by Mature Content, rating of Sim...." Votes: 0

VWR-11013 Search filter should properly support PG versus MATURE content Votes:28

VWR-7219 LL should provide a viewer that allows access _only_ to parcels marked PG Votes: 6

Here in SL, Jack claims there have been few complaints in support calls and tickets. But he seems unaware that there is no suitable category to choose, and when people ask for help entering complaints, the people processing the support calls and tickets have been directing people with complaints and questions to these forums, and have not been ACCEPTING support calls or tickets for Jack to see!

In the same way the Vogons don't understand the fuss the human beings made over the destruction of earth in order to make way for an intergalactic highway. The plans for this had also been on display therefore it was Earth's fault for not keeping up with local affairs! Mind you, if earth had the ability to travel lightyears away to see into "local" affairs they might have!

I would very much like to know just how many that actually have requested this change. Figures please, how many?...

I completely agree. one the most interesting questions in the press conference yesterday was when some guy asked about stopping the penis attacks etc Cyn admitted they couldn't and started rabbiting on about how this would offer more choice etc.

And this is the crux of the matter right there. Linden Labs' entire premise for implementing these changes is to "provide a more predictable user experience" for those for whom adult content is not part of their expected experience. Fair enough. But what events happen today that disrupts this "predictable user experience" now? Is it the strip club two sims over from a virtual University campus? Or is it the random griefer dropping screaming-prim bombs and pelting people with prim penises?

I guarantee the nightclubs, BDSM sims, and everyone else being relegated to Pornadelphia are NOT disrupting anyone's "predictable" experience, nor are they in any way inhibiting good order and discipline on business and educational sims. It is the random griefer who is NOT being relegated to Pornadelphia, about whom even Cyn admits nothing can be done.

In short, it is the people who have been, for the most part, keeping to themselves and complying with community standards who are getting screwed by this deal. The people who are actually doing the dispruptive and abusive behavior will not in any way be affected by this. Once Ursula has been established and populated and all adult content has been "safely" hidden behind aggressive search filters, these griefers will STILL be bombing PG sims with screaming prim bombs and pelting people with prim penises.

And there's *NOTHING* Linden Labs can do about it, according to Cyn.

/me notes that one reason why SL is so much more compute-intensive than other environments is because of the user-created content. I doubt LL has the will/resources to ever back away from that part of their platform, even just in a corporate product. It is a big contributor to what Argent correctly cites -- SL is well-suited to entertainment.

I have to take umbrage to that. There is nothing misguided about this. Can you seriously give any reason children should be able to see adult content? Can you seriously give any reason someone who has no desire to see anything adult of any nature should be bombarded with ads for cocks and whatever else every time they search anything at all? Can you really say that people have no right to a sex free SL?