RC Questions

"Prick" is a forbidden word

The reason that LL needs to make a FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT.....This is the current rumor going out to groups in SL....




CAN LL PLEASE GET THE PROPER INFO OUT, ASAP, before the rumor mill turns this into MORE of a clusterf*ck than it is now?

Thanks

~Brie

P.S. The new RC has some serious glitches... preferences aren't saved, and when folks change clothes, their avies disappear... and they are dancing heads till their clothes and bodies rezz back in....
CRAZY.

So is "cock" and "snuff"

However, if you search in totally PG mode (PG selected in Preferences and search) for "ass", which I understand is banned on SLXstreet, you get Kitty's Whorehouse, Escorts Lounge, and - top of the list - Swing Island XXX Theater Cinema

The whole thing is so laughable, it's tragic.

This reset to default has the added impact of not allowing you to login to your 'adult' home (tested with an alt who has Arapaima set as home).

Yes, some of us don't hate it, so please stop saying we all do.
"What percentage of residents asked for it?"
What percentage of LL's lawyers asked for it, is probably the better question.

My only concern is when is the verification system going to be fixed/replaced and will they re-verify all the fake residents we've managed to verify.

Otherwise, bring on the adult continent I say.

More likely the RC's been pulled due to crashing issues, but worked for me with shadows on for 4 hours straight, I guess being an RC viewer it's not perfect by any means.
If people kept a copy of the previous RC then they would be able to go back to it or try turning shadows off if their PC/ISP isn't up to the job, maybe they need to have a beta RC?

When the number of responses in favor of a plan is under a tenth of a percent, I think it's fair to say "all."

MISC-2727 is coming up on 1800 votes and that issue was added about a day & 1/2 ago. To compare, SVC-2833, which asks for more than 25 groups and is about 2 years old, has 1529 votes - that's the 3rd most popular issue in JIRA. Only MISC-1776, in all of JIRA, has more votes - that's the one begging LL to not raise the montly fee of their most popular product by 67%. Remember that great plan by LL? The one that caused the grid to shrink by over 20%?

I'm sorry, Tegg. I've got nothing against you but I'm going to continue to use the word 'all' as long as the support for this project remains so deep in the noise. If you think there is support and would like people to show it more, feel free to add a JIRA and ask people to vote for it. I would LOVE to see a real, grid-wide vote on this one.

Something similar was asked and Marty (Roberts) Linden, feel free to look him up at http://lindenlab.com/about/management, assured people that there weren't any lawsuits or anything like that driving this.

Why bother? You did notice that even LL is calling it "account verification" instead of "age verification," right? And they're allowing payment info to act as verification and any kid can get a prepaid credit card. Even the credit card companies say that their cards aren't any good for age verification.

So, I'm really asking, why fix this Aristotle stuff that's never worked right and probably won't work right any time soon when they're giving people this ginormous back door to use instead?

We've asked that too, a whole bunch of times. Have you seen LLs answer? Feel free to look but you're not gonna find it - that's another one of the huge gaping holes in this project that they refuse to acknowledge.

Yeah, well, a lot of us are saying it, too. And we're saying that if they really want to give people choice they should also make a PG-only continent. Doesn't that make a lot of sense? Wouldn't that actually give people more choice? Answer: "it's not part of the project."

If you read the responses, many people aren't opposed to the goals of this project - they're opposed to the implementation of it.

This has probably been said somewhere but I've missed it. The main question, why? Why do LL implement this change to begin with? Who actually wants it? Is there anyone who wants this? No one I know... Or is it because of some legal reason? Please explain.

It's been asked many, many, many times. I think some of the managment Lindens are still trying to say that we're the ones asking for it..

There are some residents that have asked for it but they're really in the minority. Some of them (NK!) are totally bonkers, some (Tegg, Darien) are good folks but misguided.

I hate this whole thing, it's LL giving into the "Moral Majority" and this will only get worse with time, but there is one thing we have to keep in mind. SL is just a product being offered to the consumer (us) by a private company. They can do whatever the hell they want with this product. If that means breaking it by giving into the whims of those who would impose their views on everyone else. The only thing that would have a real impact is if everyone who opposes this change were to boycott it long enough to have a serious impact. I just don't see that happening.

I'm sorry but LL doesn't even have to carry out the charade of pretending to care about what we have to say if they choose not to. I started out with a feeling of outrage, then despair. Now it's just a loathing disgust for what is happening.

The invitation, to discuss the content of the soon obligatory censorware and the invitation to assist the developement of the lock (the so called "viewer" of the soon obligatory ghettoware is new in history of censorship and ghettobuilding.

In former times it was unthinkable, that the victims of such arbitrary measures would be asked for their assistance, nor that they would be additional asked to pay the space, bricks, fences, doors and locks for the designated ghetto.

How comes, that we customers have the dubious "honor" to help you to construct the container in wich you want to lock us in 4-6 weeks, Sir "Linden"?

I'll be blowed if I'll do it.

You can test and construct your repression-tool by yourself, Mister "Linden".

I will not activate a single synapse or finger for it.

I would say, as a suggestion to myself, that I will log in, in ca. 5 minutes, after a cigarette. And then, Sir, you can have your so called "land" back, Sir, - these parts of a carbon-dusty hard disk surface I payed so far, because I trusted - and this was 100% a mistake - in your company slogan.

I have then ca. 3000 Euro more in *my* pockets this year.

And you have 3000 Euro less in your pockets this year, Linden Research, Inc., or how you like to call yourself.

And you know what, Sir "Blue"? I will invest that money into another US-American Company and buy a first-class PRS-guitar there - with a lifetime guarantee. There I know that I will get quality and service and deluxe friendlyness.

And I am not restricted in what I play then on that guitar.

I will not sell the "land", just to prevent that too soon others would be in the trap to fill your pockets for nothing than stress and impertinence "courtesy" brought to us by your company, Sir.

Because after 6 weeks effectless references and manifestations by others and myself, related to the changes on the so called adult content, your company can - if you will excuse me - sniff at my mature crotch and your company can say goodbye to my Euro's and Cent including VAT from now on.

I felt impelled to say it.

Have a good day "Linden Lab" and take care of yourself.

Actually, it has happened before. Which makes certain historical comparisons even more pertinent.

Was that a competent or cunning linguist?

This needs to be translated into several languages so non English speakers are aware of the impending changes

and Escort is one of the forbidden words

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Adult_Content_Keywords

So should our rallying call be?

"No Implementation without representation"

There doesn't have to have been lawsuits for a companys legal department to deside to take precautionary steps, and personally, I'd feel a bit happier if there was more than a "tick the box if you are 18" system to reduce the number of kids able to access adult areas.
First time an innocent resident gets their name plastered accross the paper after being implicated on dealings with a minor, they will be suing LL for failing to take any reasonable steps to keep mnors out.
Sorry but I don't trust the US or any other countries legal system to protect me from that.

I really don't think Linden Legal had anything to do with promoting this one. If LL had any way at all to blame this on the lawyers, they would have done so long ago. (I rather think counsel is present at all these meetings to make sure the corporate officers don't say anything actionable by aggrieved residents.)

They've kind of vaguely hinted that some residents (Stroker) asked for this as a way to protect themselves from minors. And that might even be a good idea, except that the proposed implementation is vanishingly close to that "tick the box if you are 18" system, given that every kid can "adult verify" with a Visa debit card they know they can score at the corner convenience store for US$2.

What good is a $2 credit card, from what I've seenyo had to buy a $50 credit card for $52 making it a debit card really. And making it $52 harder to get than a "check this box if you are over 18" system.
And if you listen to the adults, a lot of adults are saying they can't get any credit card, so "every kid" is a bit of an exaduration.

A $2 card will allow you to get Payment Info On File. Nuff said.

Yep. I wouldn't object to actual, working age verification. LL letting people believe that that's what the plan involves is, to me, one of the more annoying aspects of this project.

Please DON'T take our word for this, Tegg - go back and read what they've said objectively and see for yourself.

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First time I've heard that. I may pick up a few different denominations this weekend and try creating some 'verified' alts..

Both, maybe - now that could be a cunning stunt...

Agree with you totally about the translation - and yes, even though I wrote the damn sentence with 'escort' in mind, I overlooked it in my subsequent post because a) it's such an innocuous word, and b) it always reminds me of the two or three capital E escorts I've been happy to own

Have you noticed that she's completely dropped off the face of the earth? Her last post here was nearly a month ago, her last login was on April 9th.

Anyways...

I'm not against the adult continent. Honestly, I don't think too many of us are. The mere existence of an adult-only continent signifies choice. The execution of this plan, however, is wrong; completely, utterly, wrong. While the existence of Ursula creates choice, the rest of the plan is all about taking choice away. If you have adult content on your land, you must move. If you have adult content in your private residence or have borderline content in your publicly-accessible property, then you either must move or live in perpetual fear of Linden Labs' "shoot first and ask questions later" philosophy when some vigilante, griefer, or jilted ex decides to AR the hell out of you. And any new adult-oriented businesses that open up after Ursula's land goes to public auction will be forced - yes, forced - to abandon all such plans for an adult-oriented business, or pay usurious and extortive prices for the only land on which such a business is authorized.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-2727 is now at #2, with 1819 votes, or 44% of what the #1 issue has. This JIRA is averaging 36.38 votes per hour. By contrast, the #1 issue is drawing 0.92 votes per hour, or 5.53 votes per hour during its one-month peak. This is the fastest-growing issue the PJIRA system has ever seen. At its current rate of growth, this JIRA will overtake the current #1 issue by 5pm PDT, Monday, May 4th.

I'm so tempted to open a tabacconists which sells pipes and snuff!

The other thing to note that in the UK the word twat is often synonymous with twit and not rude at all (even appearing in childrens books with that meaning).

Matthew

You do not even need to spend any money to verify just use true information with Aristotle and it doesn't have to be your information and it is all perfectly OK with Aristotle and with LL as they accept the Aristotle flag to say the account is verified.

Just read the "SL Verification (Age & Payment) - Issues and Information" page at the SLapt.me wiki in my sig line.

Good news there and i saw LL closed it again this morning before it was reopened again it seems they do not like the fact people are voting and showing their disdain at the implementation of this plan.

I and i know many others will continue to publicize this JIRA amongst our groups and all other means apart from spamming. It is important that people are aware and that they do vote so LL can see just how much support for the implementation of this plan (in its present form) they don't really have.

I don't think LL want to see how little support there is for this plan in its current form, so lets hope everyone keeps up the pressure on LL in every way possible to hopefully get them to make some changes to this very flawed plan

Not an issue with the RC viewer, but with the 1.26 (or whatever version was recently rolled out to complement the new 1.23 client) server: Ever since the latest server upgrades, my gestures no longer stay activated if they are touched in any way. What I mean by this is this: If I edit an activated gesture, or deactivate then reactivate a previously-active gesture, or if I activate a previously inactive gesture, they all deactivate upon next login.

Additionally, avatars do not consistently rez. If someone lands off-camera and out of whisper range, the avatar does not appear whatsoever. The only indications an avatar is standing there are the floating tag and floating, disembodied prim attachments. Camming within whisper range causes the avatar and all remaining attachments to suddenly appear.

So now we have this forum which is even more hidden than the previous hidden forums. The Lindens are making a complete mockery of these changes they are so proud of, by completely silencing the part of the community against their changes, and hiding us away. This is an example of how they will treat current and future adults within SL.

Lindens, if you are so proud of these changes and feel that the community is behind you, then ANNOUNCE them to EVERYONE via the LOGIN-IN page and via EMAIL. To continue to ACTIVELY HIDE your plans is unprofessional and deceptive. Things we have all come to expect from Corporations these days. PLEASE PROVE TO US YOU ARE NOT THAT KIND OF CORPORATION.