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Anabella Spark
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Join date: 2 Nov 2006
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05-03-2009 08:44
Why everyone is so mad?
Don't you see that Big Brother is watching you? You are just people, you can't think by yourself. You need government to think for you. Spend millions in taxes so the government can protect you better. Same goes here, LL is protecting you from all danger, they closed casinos so you don't get drunk and spend all your tier money.
There can't be banks in SL, because you are too stupid to run a bank. Guys at Wall Street are so smart, they know how to run the banks, They don't give credit to people who can't afford it. they didn't put entire world into recession, because they are professionals, look at you - you are just a silly avatar. Big Brother is watching you and protects you every single day.
Homestad sim? Let me get this right, you as a customer wanted to pay LESS... LESS? (less?) tier for your sim and have same stuff like on regular sim? It can't be.. You need to pay more man, so we can protect you better. If you want a cheaper sim you are not a good citizen. Paying less is like cheating. You are a cheater!
Adult content? Come on... who cares if all of you go out of business. The idea is good, the new policy is great! You people just suck, you dont understand the bigger picture! You need to give up your business because you are too perverted you know. Be a good boy and girl and play with micky mouse, sell bears etc. but if you really really really need to sell adult toys... please for god sake.. DO NOT ADVERTISE IT! use different keywords. Nobody will know about your place? oh who cares, we told you to move to the ghetto... and it's so great in the ghetto, we have thought police and new interesting laws. In the future we want to implement new feature like ban for everyone who we think might commit the crime in the future. We will just filter the profiles and see if some "qualify". This way our environment will be clean and safe and predictable. Safety is important. As long as we are here- you are safe. You could be broke - but safe. Still safe..you see!
Everything is under control. There is no need to panic. There is no need to panic.
Now be a good boy and girl and pay your tier and SHUT UP!
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Wynochee LeShelle
Polykontexturalist
Join date: 3 Feb 2007
Posts: 658
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05-03-2009 08:54
From: Matthew Dowd c) it is the LL form forcing you to add some data in the passport/drivers license/id field, but it doesn't seem to matter what text you actually put into that field
Matthew Blondin told, that the Moles developed Ursula in a futuristic style. A Ferengi Drivers License ID will work. Or a short marmelade recipe from Tajikstan, but in estonian language. Or the barcode-numbers from Fruit De Monde Apple Juice, mixed with some korean letters. These sorts of textfields are eating all and everything without a hiccup. Like the old trick, to put only an @ - sign into an e-mail field, wich works in most standard web forms - and the field "thinks": "hey, great. I got an email-adress" Stupid technology.
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Tcko Cazalet
Less Freedom=Exodus
Join date: 16 May 2007
Posts: 163
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All aboard
05-03-2009 08:56
It was said that Jack owned the mainland....how in the hell CAN"T he be a part of all this? I believe he's the ringleader myself. We are being railroaded big time! http://www.flickr.com/photos/37993573@N06/3496759525/in/pool-we_are_adult_contentLord Sullivan and Couldbe Yue...I want to say thanks and if you need anything just yell. I hope everyone survives all this crap Take care
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Ann Otoole
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Join date: 22 May 2007
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05-03-2009 09:02
From: Matthew Dowd And via phone - so the only way the Aristotle service could use this is if someone from Aristotle phones through with your entered details before the verification can succeed!
Anyway from discussions with others who have verified in the UK, the verification only checks that
a) the postcode entered matches the address entered (as postcode is not a required field those having had trouble verifying in the UK are typical those who do not enter a postcode). b) if you are in the 60% (or so) on the public electoral register or a registered director checking the name matches the address c) it is the LL form forcing you to add some data in the passport/drivers license/id field, but it doesn't seem to matter what text you actually put into that field
Matthew Ah good so does everyone now agree that if anyone actually performs due diligence and checks stuff out they will discover that Linden Lab's "Account Verification" is about as good as they need to be from a legal liability perspective and we can let that topic hear the sound of crickets or will there still be some people in here pushing for draconian mandatory identity verification that will be so dumb sounding that it turns potential new residents away faster than a random encounter with a freenis?
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Drake1 Nightfire
What-evah!
Join date: 2 Jul 2008
Posts: 60
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05-03-2009 09:04
Originally Posted by Tcko Cazalet Plus the fact that Blondin directed us here to continue the discussion From: Darien Caldwell The discussion of the RC, yes. Actually what blondin posted in the veery first post of this thread was: "Discussing the new Release candidate and the Adult Content Definitions." so discussion AC is ok by him.  Drake
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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05-03-2009 09:17
From: Thorn Witrial Go to the SLapt wiki and put yourself down in the section for people who have either teired down or left sl. That section is blank so far, even though several people have said they have done the same thing. Rezzable, for instance. They're gone now. I just did a check in-world. Rezzable's still there.
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Lasher Oh
Smelling the coffee
Join date: 3 Apr 2007
Posts: 140
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Preparing protest Material for distribution on xstreet?
05-03-2009 09:17
Hi folks if your planning on creating any protest material and distributing it through xstreet make sure you place it in the correct category! I've been out of town for a day and came home to find that the 'Ursula Sucks!' protest poster had been taken down for being placed in the wrong category - 'Miscellaneous' Quote "There was a problem with your item listing that required us to remove it from the Marketplace.. The specific problem was related to the following area: Wrong Category The administrator suggested changing the Category to: Art -> Posters. Your item will be automatically relisted in the Marketplace and Search index after you fix its listing." I didn't dare presume my modest little protest could be considered art  It's back up now, and here for you for free, full perm with textures and information notecards:- https://uncensored.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=1418575^L^
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Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 4,103
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05-03-2009 09:20
From: Argent Stonecutter I just did a check in-world. Rezzable's still there. They've shrunk a whole lot in the last 6 months, though..
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Thorn Witrial
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05-03-2009 09:21
From: Argent Stonecutter I just did a check in-world. Rezzable's still there. Huh. Last time I read their blog, they were talking about being completely out in a few weeks. Maybe I misunderstood.
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Argent Stonecutter
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05-03-2009 09:24
From: Sindy Tsure They've shrunk a whole lot in the last 6 months, though.. 6 months? That's before the adult continent went in. From: Thorn Witrial Huh. Last time I read their blog, they were talking about being completely out in a few weeks. Maybe I misunderstood. URL?
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Thorn Witrial
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05-03-2009 09:25
I've removed one of my shops from a sim I know is going to adult content in order to free up a space for any small sized, renting, adult content producer so at least one person won't be totally crushed by this move. If you need a spot, go to Gentle Hearts sim and ask for Terrybear or Slurpngo Kass.
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Thorn Witrial
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05-03-2009 09:26
From: Argent Stonecutter 6 months? That's before the adult continent went in. URL? I wish I'd marked the blog. Unfortunately, I was speed reading through a few hundred posts on the last thread and it was linked in there somewhere. I haven't an earthly which page it was. e.e;
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Sindy Tsure
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05-03-2009 09:35
From: Argent Stonecutter 6 months? That's before the adult continent went in. They had a number of openspace regions..
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Hypatia Meili
Tilting at Windmills? :p
Join date: 2 Aug 2007
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There are option besides Aristotle!
05-03-2009 09:36
From: Waterstar Eilde Well, I'd probably be cutting off my nose to spite my face, but I'll leave SL before I give passport or driver's licence information to a company that's not even in my country (and the number of organisations here that can legally request that information is very small).
I know there's an argument that so much personal information gets shared around the world these days that it doesn't matter anymore, but personally I don't see that as a reason to succumb to it. Much as I love SL, if push came to shove, then retaining a level of privacy that I feel comfortable with is far more important than accessing a virtual reality. Just for any who missed this: Aristotle is not the only way to verify. Unfortunately, this information is not provided on the Verification link on the accounts page. (( To LL this needs a fix. pleas ad the info on other options to that page )) However, The other option still may not help you depending on where you are. These option are: Entering payment info (without actually paying) on your account page. This can be done with credit card or through PayPal. or: Spending RL money on Xstreet both Credit Card & PayPal also work here. or: Actually having a paid SL account. this also continues to count even after down grading. Pleas note: Only going PIU(paid account) seems to automatically update every time. The other option may require you to send a ticket if it does not. ( I will make separate post on that later)
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Viktoria Dovgal
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
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05-03-2009 09:40
From: Argent Stonecutter 6 months? That's before the adult continent went in. URL? This is the closest they've come to anything like that - http://rezzable.com/blog/rightasrain-rimbaud/deleting-our-imagine-ation But they've also added some new content in SL very recently, like the Tut thing.
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Ceejay Harvey
Very unhappy customer
Join date: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 56
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still broken
05-03-2009 09:42
I am PIU I am supposed to be able to get into AV area's according to LL if I can't to put a ticket in which I did.
Reply was to empty cache and try again, if it failed to reopen ticket...as I'd allready tried that before ticket was opened in the first place, I have come the the conclusion that its broken and that this isn't going to work leaving many with a totally sound of music experience, or quitting.
not a fan of julie andrews work
I think when traffic drops 20% or maybe even 40% some linden lab people will get the sack and the barn door shut once the horse has bolted, until then, they will plough on in the usual manor of self righteous ignorance.
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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Join date: 26 Oct 2006
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05-03-2009 09:42
From: Kirsty Shoreman Am I right to understand it will become impossible for non-USA citizens to honestly age-verify after this change?
I'm not interesting in cheating, i just want to be myself and verify my age so that i can operate as an adult human being. I really don't care if there is some way to pretend im someone else without breaking Aristotle's TOS because if that's the only way to age-verify then im leaving to find somewhere else to play.
K The other choice is to spend some money via SL or XStreet, which will verify your account to access the adult material. That's "account verification", which is different from "Age verification" (aristotle system), but either one will for for getting adult access within the game. ------------------------------ It is not correct that it is impossible for non-USA players to age verify. It all depends on the databases Aristotle uses. Within the USA, I expect they are using state driver's license and/or credit card databases. There are known to be false positives (Like using Elvis Presley, who has been dead for 30 years), and false negatives (people who have lived for many years in one place not being able to verify cause of wrong address in the data). For other countries, it depends both on them getting any database at all, then on the correctness of the data. This will vary by country.
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Vania Chaplin
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Join date: 13 Apr 2007
Posts: 125
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05-03-2009 09:43
From: Hypatia Meili Just for any who missed this: Aristotle I not the only way to verify. Unfortunately, this information is not provided on the Verification link on the accounts page. (( To LL this needs a fix. pleas ad the info on other options to that page )) However, The other option still may not help you depending on where you are.
These option are: Entering payment info (without actually paying) on your account page. This can be done with credit card or through PayPal. or: Spending RL money on Xstreet both Credit Card & PayPal also work here. or: Actually having a paid SL account. this also continues to count even after down grading.
Pleas note: Only going PIU(paid account) seems to automatically update every time. The other option may require you to send a ticket if it does not. ( I will make separate post on that later) Here there is a problem, at least in Brazil. The majority of credit cards here are not international. International CC are very rare. Both to enter CC info in SL or Xstreet, or to have a verified account in PayPal, one must have an International CC, so "entering payment info" or "spending in Xstreet", both using CC directly or using PayPal, falls in the same problem: few Brazilians have International CCs. For those, there is Aristotle, that fails to about 50%.
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
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05-03-2009 09:45
From: Anabella Spark Why everyone is so mad?
Don't you see that Big Brother is watching you? You are just people, you can't think by yourself. You need government to think for you. Spend millions in taxes so the government can protect you better. Same goes here, LL is protecting you from all danger, they closed casinos so you don't get drunk and spend all your tier money.
There can't be banks in SL, because you are too stupid to run a bank. Guys at Wall Street are so smart, they know how to run the banks, They don't give credit to people who can't afford it. they didn't put entire world into recession, because they are professionals, look at you - you are just a silly avatar. Big Brother is watching you and protects you every single day. If we didn't have so many clowns suing everyone when they slipped on wet pavers or poked themselves in the eye with a pencil, the governments wouldn't have to spnd billions protecting us physically and legally for every possible injury, last week our safety commitee did a 2 page Risk Assesment and SOP on a rechargable torch! Maybe if we didn't have people scripting their own "rip the sucker off" gambling systems and so many suckers then gambling might have stayed. Maybe if we didn't have so many "Give my anoymous avatar all your money and watch me disappear" and suckers giving them the money, inworld banks might have stayed. Actually inworld banks are still allowed as long as they are approved and verified by LL.
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Tegg Bode
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05-03-2009 09:46
From: Kara Spengler I thought it was at 300+ now ..... but it is at 2353 votes. Did that many people unvote it? Maybe someones voting bots got kicked? A few hundred votes from avatars all at the same IP address perhaps?
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Hypatia Meili
Tilting at Windmills? :p
Join date: 2 Aug 2007
Posts: 149
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05-03-2009 09:49
From: Vania Chaplin Here there is a problem, at least in Brazil.
The majority of credit cards here are not international. International CC are very rare. Both to enter CC info in SL or Xstreet, or to have a verified account in PayPal, one must have an International CC, so "entering payment info" or "spending in Xstreet", both using CC directly or using PayPal, falls in the same problem: few Brazilians have International CCs.
For those, there is Aristotle, that fails to about 50%. As I said this may not help you depending on where you are, but it is another option for some. I think we need more options!
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Thorn Witrial
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Join date: 28 Jun 2008
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05-03-2009 10:13
I've been reading the comments on the JIRA. Hope Drier said she looked at the candidate word list for words considering being banned. Um...There's a list? Where? o.O;
Also, she says Master is a candidate word, so Jedi Masters will have to move their Star Warsy butts to Ursula.
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Wynochee LeShelle
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Join date: 3 Feb 2007
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05-03-2009 10:18
From: Thorn Witrial I've been reading the comments on the JIRA. Hope Drier said she looked at the candidate word list for words considering being banned. Um...There's a list? Where? o.O;
Also, she says Master is a candidate word, so Jedi Masters will have to move their Star Warsy butts to Ursula. http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Adult_Content_KeywordsMaster is there so far unfiltered, by testing.
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Couldbe Yue
one unhappy customer
Join date: 30 Mar 2008
Posts: 1,532
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05-03-2009 10:28
btw Wynochee, if you also cancelled your premium payments, make sure you remove all payment details from your account. that way you won't get hit for next months tier it seems. 
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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Official Wiki now in Search
05-03-2009 10:33
I noticed the Official Wiki pages are now returned as results for Search/All tab. In particular entering "Adult" brings up the main Adult Wiki page (three times no less, but that's just sloppy search indexing). Therefore, a way to help new people find out about all this is to fix up those pages, and create new Wiki pages to cover likely search terms. We need to make it more obvious "how to find and access the adult stuff". Once those pages are fixed up, we can tell newbies "Enter Adult into seach to learn how" (goes off to edit the Wiki) Created this page: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Adult_AccessBasic simple info that you need to verify to get access to all of SL Please add exact steps to this page, I cant since Im already age verified, so it wont show me the form any more
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