Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions
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Thorn Witrial
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04-29-2009 08:54
From: Argent Stonecutter That remains to be seen. For all I know they'll go on some kind of mad mad mad G-Team rampage after the deadline, or N- K- and her friends will start a vigilante AR campaign targeting sex-beds, cocktowers, variegated tits, and people who can't spell moccasins. Moccasins? Quoi? o.O; I don't get it.
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Sindy Tsure
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04-29-2009 08:56
From: Thorn Witrial I don't get it. Lucky you.. NK is a poster that tried to turn this whole thing into a debate about native america rights or something.. Many, many posts. Little, little sense.
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Sindy Tsure
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04-29-2009 08:57
From: Argent Stonecutter That remains to be seen. For all I know they'll go on some kind of mad mad mad G-Team rampage after the deadline, or N- K- and her friends will start a vigilante AR campaign targeting sex-beds, cocktowers, variegated tits, and people who can't spell moccasins. I meant about what they've said the plan is so far. I'm not seeing the rules for mature mainland changing except for business owners.
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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04-29-2009 08:57
From: Argent Stonecutter Slashdot readers also tend to think that Second Life users are little more than sorry spods deserving of ridicule. Actually, they tend to think that of most everyone. Most of the stupid comments can be filtered by choosing to read the ones with 3 or more moderation points. (which is where my suggestion to filter who can enter land came from. The one where people vote on other players, and only ones above a certain number of points can enter land if the landowner chooses that access flag.)
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Couldbe Yue
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04-29-2009 08:58
From: Argent Stonecutter Just because they're not offering all takers a free swap, that doesn't mean the people they turn down (or don't ask) are going to be safe.  if someone thinks they have mature content and gets turned down then you can guarantee there will be those out there who *know* it is mature content and will lodge an AR accordingly.
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Shanna Klaar
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04-29-2009 09:02
Dear LL, how will the following scenario play out in SL?
2 or more people live on private, mature, 1024m2 plot. They are nice people, they have a park on the ground with lovely sculpty trees, a fountain, a swing (they are swingers).
They rated their experience preference as "Adults". They take frequent trips to Ursula, and bring back pirate booty. On one such trip they buy an adult movie and decide to watch it in the privacy of their own skybox at 4095.9 meters high. They do it high and away from the prying eyes of strangers because they do their best to follow the rules of SL.
A random person flies by the parcel and notices its beauty. This person rated their experience to be "Mature". Perhaps they want want to be a Star Wars bounty hunter and concentrate on combat and skip anything to do with sex.
As this person enters the parcel, they hear sounds of an almost human nature. They proceed to click on the "About Land" tab, click the media settings and there, in the little media texture box... OMG MY EYES!
Will the couple viewing their adult movies at 4000+ meters and in assumed privacy be liable? Have they affected the predictability of SL for the person who is "Mature". How might this play out for the G-Team?
How about the same scenario except that the couple in question decided to listen to a 24x7 broadcast of "7 dirty words" by George Carlin?
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-29-2009 09:09
From: Sindy Tsure I meant about what they've said the plan is so far. I'm not seeing the rules for mature mainland changing except for business owners. Blondin has repeatedly stated that if you have "public" or "advertised" sexually oriented material you will need to locate it on a mature region. The definition of "public" and "advertising" is nebulous, but it doesn't just mean "businesses". I have asked him many many questions about the distinction, and: 1. Word of mouth might be considered advertising. 2. An advertised parcel can have a private area containing sexually oriented material, so long as that material is not advertised or readily visible. 3. Sexually oriented materials INSIDE HOUSES or in skyboxes do not have to be on an adult region, but a nude beach with sex balls will. 4. Intent matters. Which means "what the Linden who responds to an AR perceives as the intent" matters.
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Tcko Cazalet
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Scenario
04-29-2009 09:16
From: Shanna Klaar Dear LL, how will the following scenario play out in SL?
2 or more people live on private, mature, 1024m2 plot. They are nice people, they have a park on the ground with lovely sculpty trees, a fountain, a swing (they are swingers).
They rated their experience preference as "Adults". They take frequent trips to Ursula, and bring back pirate booty. On one such trip they buy an adult movie and decide to watch it in the privacy of their own skybox at 4095.9 meters high. They do it high and away from the prying eyes of strangers because they do their best to follow the rules of SL.
A random person flies by the parcel and notices its beauty. This person rated their experience to be "Mature". Perhaps they want want to be a Star Wars bounty hunter and concentrate on combat and skip anything to do with sex.
As this person enters the parcel, they hear sounds of an almost human nature. They proceed to click on the "About Land" tab, click the media settings and there, in the little media texture box... OMG MY EYES!
Will the couple viewing their adult movies at 4000+ meters and in assumed privacy be liable? Have they affected the predictability of SL for the person who is "Mature". How might this play out for the G-Team?
How about the same scenario except that the couple in question decided to listen to a 24x7 broadcast of "7 dirty words" by George Carlin? So true....I predict mainland will be totally covered by red fences rendering it totally useless to navigate (hates red fences)
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Valentine Moana
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some good news
04-29-2009 09:18
have 2 NPIOF friends, who verified through SL Support site with current 1.22 viewer both show as NPIOF in profile AND can TP to Arapaima(129,171,21) successfully
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Qie Niangao
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04-29-2009 09:19
From: Innula Zenovka You distinguish between Aristotle's age verification and LL's account verification. You then go on to say that, Am I right in thinking that, unless the landowner has some particular reason for wanting to turn on *Age Verification* there's no need to, so long as the land has been flagged as *Adult*? This distinction seems to me very important, because I'd thought the two forms of verification were, for practical purposes, equivalent. We're going to have chaos if landowners turn on *Age Verification* for no good reason and thus, inadvertantly shut out all us *Account Verified* non-USians who have problems with Aristotle and who thought our *Account Verified* status was a solution to them. Right, but factually it is possible to restrict parcel access to age-verified only, regardless of whether the land is PG, Mature, or Adult. Why would one do such a thing? Well, if (*if*) one believed that Aristotle IDV actually increased the likelihood of an account being of-age, then one might choose that option to screen out the kiddies. One may desire that result even if there's nothing naughty on the parcel. And if it is actually an Adult region, then one still might not trust payment info as a reliable indicator of age (one shouldn't), and want to insist on IDV specifically, on the premise that it might be more effective.
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Prilis Boa
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Tits and Ass
04-29-2009 09:31
Heres the final word from LL regarding me selling an ass (Equus africanus asinus, a domesticated member of the Equidae or horse family, and an odd-toed ungulate) which I was selling on Xstreetsl with all proceeds going to cancer research:
*************************************************** Solution: If you would like to continue to use the word "ass" in your item listing, please flag the item listing as Adult Content.
Once you have flagged the item listing correctly, your item should be available for sale through the Marketplace automatically.
Regards,
Dakota Linden -- Linden Lab Xstreet SL Customer Support *****************************************************
So I guess thats it. They have rewritten the dictionary and theres naff all you can do about it. the charming seller of tits will just have to leave or rename an entire species of bird. The poor ass, for centuries a loyal servant of man has been forced into extinction by these imbeciles. It's a sad day for all of us, odd-toed or otherwise.
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Couldbe Yue
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04-29-2009 09:31
From: Valentine Moana have 2 NPIOF friends, who verified through SL Support site with current 1.22 viewer both show as NPIOF in profile AND can TP to Arapaima(129,171,21) successfully exactly - to get there you need to be either age or account verified.
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Shanna Klaar
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04-29-2009 09:35
Sorry to hear about this Prilis... I guess the next step will be to banish all the Nekos to Hello Kitty Online
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Ann Otoole
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04-29-2009 09:39
From: Shanna Klaar Sorry to hear about this Prilis... I guess the next step will be to banish all the Nekos to Hello Kitty Online Sorry but Hello Kitty is the inflatable head restraint bondage place now. Watch carefully: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OA-fBtAAYCome inside... Do you wanna feel the magic?
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Prilis Boa
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04-29-2009 09:44
From: Shanna Klaar Sorry to hear about this Prilis... I guess the next step will be to banish all the Nekos to Hello Kitty Online Funny you mention this because I tried to contact this dakota specimen inworld and was confronted with a profile pic of some kind of wolf. A wolf that doesn't know what an ass is. anyway the wolfs profile said this: Please do not send direct IMs or notecards to Lindens for support. The arrogance is f****ing staggering
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Sindy Tsure
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04-29-2009 09:47
From: Prilis Boa Funny you mention this because I tried to contact this dakota specimen inworld and was confronted with a profile pic of some kind of wolf. A wolf that doesn't know what an ass is. anyway the wolfs profile said this:
Please do not send direct IMs or notecards to Lindens for support.
The arrogance is f****ing staggering Pretty much every Linden says that in their profile - if they didn't, they'd spend ALL their in-world time answering IMs..
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Argent Stonecutter
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04-29-2009 09:48
From: Prilis Boa So I guess thats it. They have rewritten the dictionary and theres naff all you can do about it. the charming seller of tits will just have to leave or rename an entire species of bird. The poor ass, for centuries a loyal servant of man has been forced into extinction by these imbeciles. It's a sad day for all of us, odd-toed or otherwise.
Damn them for not letting you change the product name to "Delightful Donkey".
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Arizona Davies
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Word usage
04-29-2009 09:54
From: Valerius Constantine "slave" gets flagged too. it's not just Goreans. it's is all slavery.
^V^ Slave is also the name for the second door in a double door set. One is called Master and one is called slave. Guess those get changed too. BTW while we are at it, What will happen to the beautiful Sistine Chapel that is one of the sims? I dont think the Catholic church considers the work of art ceiling adult, but SL does.
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Angelia Rees
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04-29-2009 09:54
From: Prilis Boa Heres the final word from LL regarding me selling an ass (Equus africanus asinus, a domesticated member of the Equidae or horse family, and an odd-toed ungulate) which I was selling on Xstreetsl with all proceeds going to cancer research:
*************************************************** Solution: If you would like to continue to use the word "ass" in your item listing, please flag the item listing as Adult Content.
Once you have flagged the item listing correctly, your item should be available for sale through the Marketplace automatically.
Regards,
Dakota Linden -- Linden Lab Xstreet SL Customer Support *****************************************************
So I guess thats it. They have rewritten the dictionary and theres naff all you can do about it. the charming seller of tits will just have to leave or rename an entire species of bird. The poor ass, for centuries a loyal servant of man has been forced into extinction by these imbeciles. It's a sad day for all of us, odd-toed or otherwise.
"Fascism ought more properly be called corporatism because it is the perfect merger of power between the corporation and the state." -- Benito Mussolini I actually find it *more* disturbing that they are requiring you to mark your Equus Africanus Asinus as Adult Content in the first place. No offense to those who enjoy such things, but generally, I don't consider equines in my adult play. [EDIT: except as a steed to get me to the locale of that play]
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Shanna Klaar
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04-29-2009 09:54
From: Argent Stonecutter Damn them for not letting you change the product name to "Delightful Donkey". Right, because if she was selling posters of Dick Cheney or George Bush she should rename those as well.
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Prilis Boa
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04-29-2009 09:55
From: Argent Stonecutter Damn them for not letting you change the product name to "Delightful Donkey". It's not a donkey, it's an ass. totally different animal. it's like renaming dolphin to porpoise. If we renamed all mammals donkey it would not make an ass of u and me, but it would be foolishly assumptive. and ignorant. and prejudiced. and..... Linden
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Ann Otoole
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04-29-2009 09:58
From: Argent Stonecutter Damn them for not letting you change the product name to "Delightful Donkey". prolly get more traffic using "Tijuana Donkey" but maybe not people that would buy it.
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Blondin Linden
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04-29-2009 10:01
From: Valerius Constantine
And when can we start putting in our support tickets for the move to pornville again?
Not for a while still. We'll announce it via the Blog and I think the forums will be re-opened around that time as well.
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Brenda Connolly
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04-29-2009 10:01
From: Arizona Davies Slave is also the name for the second door in a double door set. One is called Master and one is called slave. Guess thoes get changed too.
BTW while we are at it, What will happen to the beautiful Sistine Chapel that is one of the sims? I dont think the Catholic church considers the work of art ceiling adult, but SL does. Good thing no one is selling locomotives in SL as well. A lot of times, you have to "lash up" several "slave units" in order to "pull a train".
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Angelia Rees
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04-29-2009 10:03
From: Prilis Boa It's not a donkey, it's an ass. totally different animal. it's like renaming dolphin to porpoise. If we renamed all mammals donkey it would not make an ass of u and me, but it would be foolishly assumptive. and ignorant. and prejudiced. and..... Linden You could name it asinus africanus, but then only zoologists and SL Romans would know what the hell it was. *wry grin* [EDIT: The English translation "african ass" would not only set off the filter but probably get you in trouble for racism.]
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