Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

No. People didn't know about it, and when I posted my first thread 'To Any Linden, I beg of you..." I got a lot of people thinking I was trying for attention and/or whining about a tempest in a teapot. They really do not know what is going on. When I tried to explain, I was met with disbelief or confusion or both. Others chimed in to back me up and explain, and teh surprise is so palpable you could prolly sculpt prims out of it.

There are four or five threads now that I wish the people following this blog, who have internalized the problems well enough to explain clearly, would chime in on.

'To Any Linden, I beg of you.."
"I give up, you can't beat them..."
My Thoughts On Adult Continent"
"Meta Linden"
And I forget what the other one is. They're all in the top ten posts.

*edit* Okay I went back to reread the first responses to the To Any Linden Thread, there were some good posts right after I posted that, it got weird later.

I know but most casual users don't know about this. It took me a day to figure out how to even GET to this thread. Someone had to link me. And that was when it was only (only!) 280 pages. I can't imagine someone coming into this cold reading it all to get a true picture of all the craziness we've all been following.

I am out raged by the thought I have to move from my parcel!!!
Why this change, are you unable to keep minors out? Why should ADULTS be punished and have their freedom taken away...WE ARE ADULTS...not minors and we have rights to be ADULTS!!! Whether this pertains to sex or not!
I keep an Mature parcel as a precaution and it is monitored closely for even "child-like" Avatars...they are removed!!! *I am responsible!!!*
Please do YOUR job and keep kids out of the adults SL!!! We have rights also and one is we have earned the right to be , act and play as adults!!!
IF you continue and go thru with this YOU will only harm yourselves and lose MANY, MANY...and I repeat MANY Adults in your SL "game"!!!
IF this has nothing to do with minors then why the power play with mature content? Every "Adult" home has a bed.....so what are you saying here???
This is way over the top...why don't you concentrate on the SL program its self and improve the quality of the game instead of poking your nose in and playing "Big Brother"!

While you all are over at xstreet forums don't forget to look at the thread called:
"Anthem for the New Second Life Continent Ursula!"

I have started to mirror the pages on our wiki at the address in my sig line so if anyone wants to give a hand it would be welcomed

My email details are in my Profile inworld in first life tab if you want to help admin it as its all new to me but am learning fast lol

Thanks

These "millions of new potential users" are going to fit where exactly?
On the existing mainland?
Even if you terminate all the existing users, there won't be room for them in the existing mainland.

You're going to have to build new PG continents.
Starting now would be a good plan.
You've already got most of a 250-sim continent sitting there empty.

That is so true

I dont know what happend because I'm just now finding blogs here and being updated on your recent decisions to let teens into adult sl. If you would take a proper survey of the adults who were here first, (and not ask the teenagers) you would see that WE DO NOT WANT THE TEENS HERE. You are making a very bad business decision and should take a more thorough look around at your paying clientele as well as existing "grown ups". We are spreading the word to protest to this new move. You will find more and more blogs on this.

Wait.. What?

The blog hasn't loaded for me in a couple days - getting nothing but 404's.. Have they announced something new?

See? This is what I mean. Massive, pervasive uninformed users. They are JUST NOW finding out some of the stuff we've been talking about for weeks (if not months and years). The teen grid blend has been in the air for ages and Devra just found out. This is why I hope people spend some time on the more frequented boards and let people know what is going on. It's horrifying to me how people are in the dark about this.

This is why WE need to be telling everyone. How hard would it have been for LL to post a little note on the opening login of SL? They tell us about easter egg hunts and other "oh so important events". But they can't seem to get the word out about a major change like this? sigh....

Not can't. Wont. And therein lies the heartbreak of it all.

QFT. WE should not be giving answers or spreading the word. That is LL's job, and moreso, their duty and responsibility. They are failing more miserably then ever before at looking out for their customers, but at least they have finally shown just how important those customers are to them, so at least we can all be grateful for at least that much. We all know where we stand in their eyes.

Please see Eric Lyon's post, about five or seven down from the top. This is how several people have told me they see LL's changes, and it's clear to me that they don't understand the underlying problems or unfairness of it all.

https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=497098#497098

Can someone more organize than I am, with the technical and financial understandings to back up what they say, please explain the problems he doesn't seem to know about? If someone can do this, I think it would be a clear, helpful illustration to other people, because that thread is still really short and more likely to be read.

I know. I didn't mean it was our job. I just meant that we can't let LL get away with keeping this under wraps. Well, we can. But I hope that we don't let them get away with this. I just know that I am going to do everything in my power to make sure that everyone I know is informed about it and gets a chance to voice their opinion on it.

Sill there https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=496050&highlight=#496050

Concur. There needs to be a MOTD with a link to all this that says "Did you know that in June you will no longer have access to any material above the MPAA G rating unless age verified? Click here for more info!

Because LL's version of adult is actually anything above MPAA G rating and there really is no mature. It is G or adult for LL.

Let me know if you need a hand

I am one of few here who could probably adapt to the new PG SL, if I wanted to, truth is do I really want to? In my three months here I have had the freedom to be what I want to be. To be free for a change, its the old trick, once you taste something like that how can you just let it go? Yes this will seem preachy but I may as well say what I feel now, Will this make a difference? No why would it? Do I want to make a difference? Yes and am already helping a little to spread awareness about this and if i can help in any other way with trying to stop this then please anyone is welcome to PM me or Im me and well ask me to get involved and i'll see what I can do to help, why would a newbie wish to help?

Brcause I see what you guys have here I really do know how you feel. All this happened to me once before and I wont take it quietly this time, I saw one 'social network' die in the space of a month, a nework of millions and im not letting it happen without a fight this time.

I want to fight this because this is the right thing to do, time and time again people of the net are silenced by companies they trust, First there was MSN then there was the pretty muhc vanishing of chat rooms due to on the most part fear that was never proved. will the same happen to this new era of virtual worlds? No because we can fight this, how? just by mouthing off and making a huge stink, not just in SL but everwhere, save the 'Social' part of social networking, save the ability to meet new people and to share with new people on the internet. This is not jsut about second life This is about all our freedom all over the internet be it chat rooms forums online games whatever. We have to fight this because it is wrong. I have seen what you guys have and I want to help you keep it, I don't want to see something this good die all over again, I will fight this even if it means starting groups on face book and myspace.

I know that sounds silly but it will get our voices herd outside of here. Talking jsut in a LL controlled enviroment will only get us so far if we spread this as far as we can then we can possibly get backing in more than one place. Sure some will be like oh its only perverts, what they don't realise is. It will be affecting everyone even those infavour of this move, why? Because they don't realise it but PG and Mature is changing, LL's backtracking is a fabrication it will come to pass when they, 'review it' some time down the line, they just don't want to fight two battles at once.

If they want kids in SL we have the teen grid, if its not making them money maybe ask some of us to sponsor it or how about this, why not have goverments and schools and the like sponsor the teen grid and leave us alone? Time and time again i've seen bad decisions destroy everything. The excuses are alays, its for the kids, its for what we belive is right, sorry to be blunt but we have all heard that bullshit millions of times and we all know what the deal is, Money.

This will effect EVERYONE because in the end it will kill SL no doubt about it, these imagined big companies DONT CARE they never have, Look how reluctant the film and music industry are to even make legal downlads on the internet, as for the press well as a whole they hate the internet so who can fight for our corner? We can, for years the people who wish to talk and make friends on the internet, who wish to share and have a laugh and be free away from the real world have been treated like scum, lablled as shit, as the scum of the world, as pathetic nerds perverts and worse pheadophiles, scam artists the lot. Every possible thing they could use against us they have. Do companies stand by us? No, they give in they shut down and leave us as 'refugees' almost making us feel like criminals! Why? Because we dare to dream about enjoying ourselves, because we enjoy meeting new people in a safe place. Because we ENJOY the 'social' bit of social networking.

This what LL are preposing is the tip of a very very nasty iceburg, if we don't try our best to stand up against this WE WILL LOSE SL I know some may think who cares, why should we care? Well thats the way its been for years, if it hadnt been well the net would still be that free place we remember and love. its about time we 'refugees' stood up for ourselves and tried to preserve the internet for what it was. In my mind even Facebook is a great big lie to the internet, you cant meet new people on it is that the future isolated to who you know in real life because of pressure from others? I dont want the internet to turn into that and i'm sure others dont to. As has been said we should use the internet to fight this. Not jsut for SL not just for us but for the whole future of the social internet.

Anyway thats all I have to say yes i've probably rambled on too much, sorry about that guys with all the long posts on here but this is how I feel. I felt now was the time to let my true feelings really be heard. We are not alone in this fight guys and we don't have to be.

Anyways thats all form me, i'm going to lie down ina dark room and have a little sleep.

I have a free to copy poster with a generic notecard pointing to the info and a picture for peoples profile that Deltango circulated at our landing spot just by the TP map feel free to drop by and take a copy

Shades of that which is to come:

TP'd from Mature region to Arapaima, with Second Life 1.22.11 (0)
Log off

Log in with
Second Life 1.23.0 (2114) Apr 15 2009 13:15:15 (Second Life OSS)
Built with MSVC version 1400

Region not available, moved to a nearby region (Mature)

You are at … in Hyles located at sim3055.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.20.44:13003)
Second Life Server 1.26.2.117266

Tried to TP back to Arapaima, Could not teleport, not allowed due to maturity rating.
Ah, then a crash within 60 seconds.

Repeat the experiment, and same occurred.

Am a PIU.

Perhaps LL is just working on search, but, being able to TP between regions with different
ratings is very important, to understand how the new order will really work and affect all residents.

The new changes would not impact my overall SL experience drastically as well. I have PIU so i will be able to visit Ursula all I want, and if the mainland does become a place for RL corporate marketing and advertising, Ursula will be the only part of SL I will set foot it.

But the cultural and philosophical implications of the changes are far more damaging , at least to me. I am not an artist of any sort, I'm not interested in running any business,and am not even that interedted in computers in general. I stumbled onto SL quite accidently, tried it as a goof, and stayed. I log in once or twice a week, for an hour or two, strictly for escapism and entertainment. Because SL was free of so many of the hangups of RL, the rules and lemmimg like conformity of our marketed and packaged drone existance, it appealed to me. I'm a very imdependant and stubborn person in RL, I sometimes go the opposite way just because it is the opposite way.

Over the past year or so SL has been changing. The whimsical fantasy land was slowly replaced by the MYFaceSpaceBookers and World of Whateverthefuckitiscalled types. While there is nothing wrong with their approaches to SL, they seem in many cases to be inflexible about others who don't approach it thr way. I always said SL is becoming RLv2, and thought it was more just because of LL's bumbling and general laziness, but now we learn it is what they have planned for quite some time.

please post a SLURL, or region and coordinates

The OSS is a mess with the adult content stuff now. the Public Nightly viewer actually works. I'm sure the 1.23 RC viewer will work better than the OSS.

As others have pointed out, thats only true if you don't know what your doing. Ads are pretty cheap, so if i need to find those words i get some focussed dictionary and just blast some 1.000s of nonsensical ads into the system as collateral damage, so what?

Unless Linden Labs has top notch NLP software and a clue what they are doing they cannot do much better than filtering single words (which is idiotic, just watch your typical mail folder and the SPAM that gets through...).