Upcoming Changes for Adult Content: Answers to Questions

Cranks up some heavy techno (The Retrosic, "Revolution" on the headphones in celebration that we may finally be getting through to Linden Lab.

Why should they solve anything? They present the issues.. then sit back and *pretend to pay attention* while we all toss ideas and basically do it for them. all the solutions they need are in these posts... except for the *scrap the whole idea* plan... that's one they WON'T listen to.

The rest, no matter which of us conspired to consolidate and present these facts in a simple, well versed manner, will be credited to some linden somewhere while the rest of the lindens pat Him or Her on the back and scream GREAT JOB... and they go on giving us the exemplary customer service we have grown to love so much. =>.<=


~brie

Well, what do you think? Also here's an expanded version of my proposed solution, after a little more thought.

If what LL is doing is going to force someone to move, *for whatever reason*, they ought to be eligible to swap to a patch of Ursula. At least Ideally, that's the way it would work



#1 Announce In-World, via the login screen, that there will be changes to the content ratings in a few months, and that you want suggestions on what they should be. Put up a poll for residents to fill out at login that asks about their preferences. Actually *find out* what the majority prefers, rather than assuming or guessing.
Be prepared to segregate *either* the group which absolutely cannot abide adult content, *OR* the group which consists of "adult content" according to what the *residents* think of as adult content. Have questions in the poll which settle this definition *for* you. "What do you think of as adult content?" Then a list of specific things with ratings of 1-10 to choose from.
- pics of nude skins on vendors all the way to streamed porn movies on billboards.
-Nightclubs with fake alcohol and dance floors all the way to whorehouses that offer a pony ride.
-Cuddle posed couches in private skyboxes to orgies on the beach.
-Watermelon or pig guns all the way to cannibalism and torture
-Role-playing Saturday morning cartoon stuff in private to sexual slavery/sexual "owner and pet" role-play in public
-heavy restrictions on content to "anything goes"

Other categories as needed, but the goal would be to discover where the minority lies, how adult is "adult", How many want a "G" rated experience, and how to define the content rating categories and clearly as possible, and give the residents what they want with the least disruption possible

#2 Find out what changes will affect the *fewest* residents. If the "adult content" folks are actually in the minority, then Ursula becomes "Mature "plus". If those mortally offended by adult content are the minority, Ursula becomes "PG "plus".

#3 Announce, Again via the login screen, the results of the poll. Decide where the line between "PG" and "PG "plus" is, *OR* where the line between "Mature" and "Adult" is; Whichever is necessary for serving the unhappy minimum.

Tell the residents up front what the standards for the new content rules are and what the penalties are for violating them. *EITHER* Add a "PG "plus" rating ("G" *OR* a "Mature "plus" rating (XXX) as needed and whichever will be the least disruptive to residents.

Tell The affected residents that, because it will disrupt the fewest number of people, a "Mature "plus"/"PG "plus" continent is being constructed, and that the content ratings will be enforced with greater rigor across the board.

Announce that People who wish to be moved to the "Mature "plus"/"PG "plus" new land will be able to swap the land they own "*as of the date of the announcement* for land in Ursula if they wish, but if six weeks after reshuffle ends, a resident is found to be in violation of content ratings, they will be evicted from their land. after three such evictions with the same resident, their account will be canceled.

Announce that estate/sim content flagging is mandatory for all landowners, public and private.

Announce that some sort of account verification will be needed to sign up for *NEW* accounts, and that LL is changing their accounting system for avatars. You can verify a single account and then register a reasonable number of avatars to that account (I'd say 20 as a round number)

Announce that unless an avatar logs in at least once a month, It will receive 60-day countdown to deletion. If after that 60 days expires, the avatar still hasn't logged in, delete it. That's a 3-month shelf life- enough for *anybody* to figure out if they want to keep playing or not. It will reduce load on the inventory servers, and cut down the bots a little.

Do one of the following:

A. if Ursula turns out to be for the "PG "plus" crowd, Announce that residents *must* have a verified account to access it. Period. Redirect the welcome areas to Ursula and and enforce the standards with brutal and draconian efficiency. A "PG "plus" Ursula will provide the "predictable experience" that the corporate world and those of delicate sensibilities crave, and with all new accounts requiring verification, all new residents and media people will see Ursula *first*. Turn it into a showcase with a corporate presence if you like, but never *ever* allow an unverified account or a speck of adult content inside.
Ursula will be your Showroom, your Demo model, and your Advertising campaign.

B If Ursula turns out to be a "Mature "plus" continent, then announce that you need a Verified account to access it, But you must also have a verified account to enter the *Welcome areas*. (No new unverified accounts, remember?). and proceed to shield all the people who are comfortable with "mature "plus" content from griefers and bots.

#4 Start signing up people for the move, in two categories. People who own mainland parcels, and people who have parcels on private estates that will be flagging themselves in such a way as to evict them. Give them all a couple weeks for a deadline to make sure it reaches the most people- Again, use the login screen to notify residents to make sure that it reaches the largest number.

#5 Disable all land sales for the duration of the re-shuffle

#5 Move to people on the "move list" order for largest number of square meters to smallest. Have the smallest parcel be a 512 plot. Anyone who owns a bunch of 16sqm plots will just have to consolidate or clean up. Anyone who is swapping from a private estate must, of course, become a premium member to own land in Ursula, just like everyone else.
Have some extra Sims in reserve, because more people than just those on the list will want to move.

#6 Announce a "last chance" move list with a deadline of one week. At the end of that week, move the people on *that* list, biggest to smallest again.

#7 Announce the end of the shuffle, re-open the land office and let land sales re-commence. be ready for a *flood* of AR's regarding content from people who don't understand the ratings, or who simply want to ruin someone's day.
Announce on the login screen that LL is instructing the G-team to make no snap judgments, and to Nuke any jokers who are wasting their time with false reports.

#8 Sit back and see what happens.


My guess is that unverified accounts will eventually become a rarity, held by hardcore libertarians and "traditionalist" SL'ers. However, even these will get scarce when someone gets the idea that having a disposable alt would be useful, and offers to *buy* the unverified avatar at a bonus. Expect some pretty spectacular pranks and violations by suspiciously schizophrenic long-term unverifieds


How does that sound? It does everything that LL states as a goal, eventually, and a couple of things that LL *doesn't* state, but obviously wants. The unverified accounts are slowly phased out, it uses carrots rather than sticks, and is a more resident-driven process.

And it's *FAIR*.

-V-

I would certainly hope so. In fact, *anyone* should be allowed to swap if they wish. It's only fair since LL is changing the very nature of the product they sold people.

-V-

This is, why Linden managers and Linden employees are drinking sand instead of water, because fishes and frogs had sex in water and additional to that scandal, all the water on globe was going millions of times through billions of bodies and genital systems of billions of creatures including humans since millions of years.

So, the parent guided company Linden Research, Inc. decided to drink only sand from now on and to eat only small stones, delivered in plastic-brown-bags - to stay: clean...

Getting a "forbidden" result trying to reply here

-V-

Excellent Job again -V-.... if ONLY they pay attention.
~Brie

My guess is that you are hosed, at least under the current plan.

-V-

That will take forever and a day. Using the support ticket process to do the move has got to be the *least* workable solution I've heard. LL *really* needs to look at their gamne plan and make major revisions if they care at all about customer service.

-V-

Same thing happened to me. several re-writes and still "forbidden", so it's not a key word or anything (unless it's *real* common

-V-

Ah, I was using that one a lot

-V-

Thanks for the head's up- You know that sort of thing could be nipped in the bud by an *IN-WORLD ANNOUNCEMENT OF WHAT"S GOING ON* don't you?

Pass that one along to the big boys. now their inaction is enabling indentity theft- Nice

-V-

Say that you like making neon signs- you put them up all over the place. your residential neighbors complained a lot about your neon signs, especially the racy ones. but living next door to a strip club, nobody minds and you can do whatever you like.

Or maybe you just wanted to have to option of a public boinkfest if the need should arise. You're not *doing* anything, but you figure that someday you might *want* to, so you plan ahead by buying "mature" land.

Or you are in the *planning* stages of an adult business- you're not in violation now, but in 6 months, it'll be AR city!

Or maybe you *like* camera looking at the sex club next door. you don't want to join in, but having it as a neighbor is fun and relaxing!


I can think of a *ton* of reasons to move to Ursula. I think it's a Dumb Idea given what LL wants to accomplish, but if they are determined to give the "Adult" sector all the protection from griefers and bot, I'll just say "Thanks"!

-V-

And if they wish to advertise it? get some fresh blood in the mix? the usual crowd is getting a little dull? An advert a couple times a year shakes things up a bit, keeps them fresh and exciting- and, according to LL, requires that you move to Ursula.

Except it wouldn't *look* like that in between adverts, would it? And to someone camera looking by, and maybe to the G-team, it would *look* like a violation.

LIke we've been saying What about the people who simply want to keep their damn *options* open?

-V-

No ( answers today?

anyone know where on on the land tools you set to adult now on the broken code for the mainland?

Is it the mature tic box on the about land Options?

Just out of curiosity, Why? I mean, if you want PG, then you buy PG, right?

I mean. if you don't like cigarette smoke, do you sit in the smoking section?


-V-

So a place that has a nightly 'swingers party' is ok if it's not advertised and not ok if it's advertised?

Blondin also needs our *unvarnished* opinions LS, otherwise he can't pass them along to LL. He took the job, so he gets to deal with the effects. LL, in this case, quite literally hired him as a face we can all yell into.

Sucks to be you blondin! but I'm not holding back- nothing personal, I'd be justas loud as this with anyone else in your position, and I'm pretty damn hot over this. I have RL friends and loved ones who have sweat *blood* trying to make something happen for them in SL. They got caught by some landlord issues dealing with private sims and then we all got smacked down by the openspace debacle- and we had the coolest club you have ever seen ready to go. just when we were ready to open, the use restrictions and price increases hit, and we had to give it up.

Many of us went premium, and we moved to mainland because it was *stable*- had been for ages. we could relax.

Now *this*. All I can say is that we'd *better* qualify for the move to Ursula if LL goes through with this. It's a dumb idea that won't accomplish anything but slapping a band-aid over the nipples in SL, but if the train leaves the station, My friends and I will be *on* it!

-V-

If they want to swap a mature parcel for "adult" Ursula, I say let 'em! Notice i said *parcel*. I think that however many parcels you have in mainland, they should be consolidated in Ursula. Nothing smaller than a 512, and no re-selling for say, a couple months.

that'd weed out some of the land barons, and if everyone who wants to move is *allowed* to at the same time, then there won't be any reason for the land barons to start jacking up the prices- the market will handle pricing. Anyone who wants no limits will move to Ursula, and mainland will have several earthquakes, and big pieces of it will slide into the ocean

-V-

Me, I think that the definition of advertising should be limited to advertising in search/SL- the stuff you *pay* for. Street teams are more targeted- I would say just search and event listings.

-V-

Since we know how long a ticket takes... - often months...- me and friends will start to fill the tickets now. 1 x 512, 1x 1536, 1 x over8000, 1 x over 16000 sqm, in ownership of several Premiums, Premium alts and Premium Group members, all land on different mainland sims, and all has waterfronts and sides. We want the same quality again, and again on different sims, for different reasons.

Only reason to want to swap is: we want to keep our options open - even while actual nothing "adult" is rezzed.

If LL says "no", then they are scammers, because we bought the land to have all options open.

Not an option to file on the tickets yet.. so... let me know how it goes

Would it be fair to say that static is not sexual activity (such as nude art or nude statue), therefore should not be considered as adult as there is no sex involved, but only animated activity could be considered as adult, based on LL's definition of *Xtreme*?

Thanks Brie Here's hoping!

-V-

By the same token, if a poseball is not in use, it is just a ball, it cannot be sex or sexual by any definition. It can only be sexual or sexual content only if it is animating an avatar.

It is like thinking about sex can at best be lust, but it is not and cannot be sex or sexual because there is no physical manifestation of it. It is only physically performing sex that can be considered as sex or sexual, or "adult content" in LL's definition (even though I cannot see what is so eXtreme about this normal sex).

If we don't draw this line, then there will be no end to arbitrary AR and suspend anyone in SL being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Is this reasonable to use this adult reasoning - physical animated activity - as a guideline to decide what is sexual and what is not?